On Sep 27, 10:13*am, "Lu Powell" wrote:
NEW PREAMBLE TO THE CONSTITUTION

"We the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to help everyone
get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid more riots, keep our
nation safe, promote positive behavior, and secure the blessings of
debt-free liberty to ourselves and our great-great-great-grandchildren,
hereby try one more time to ordain and establish some common sense
guidelines for the terminally whiny, guilt ridden, delusional, and other
liberal bed-wetters. We hold these truths to be self evident: that a whole
lot of people are confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim they require
a Bill of NON-Rights."

ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV, or any
other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but
no one is guaranteeing anything.

rewrite: if you're rich you don't have a right to stay rich or have
the middle class pay for it if you make a mistake


ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended

this includes christians who have to get used to seeing crucifixes in
jars of urine, or people who get offended if the president doesn't
wear a flag lapel pin


ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a
screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful; do not expect the tool
manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently wealthy..

ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and housing

and you don't have a right to a tax rate of 15% if you're rich. if
you're rich you pay the same rate as the middle class

ARTICLE XI: You do not have the right to change our country's history or
heritage. This country was founded on the belief in one true God.

and since it wasn't (tom paine being an atheist), atheism is the
official religion. christians will just have to suck it up

On Sep 27, 11:29*am, wf3h wrote:


and you don't have a right to a tax rate of 15% if you're rich. if
you're rich you pay the same rate as the middle class

Another liberal fable. The rich pay a 35% tax rate on income. It's
the rich Demoncrats in DC that pay *no* taxes, as we've all seen over
the last few months, eh?

On Sep 27, 11:48*am, Jack wrote:
On Sep 27, 11:29*am, wf3h wrote:



and you don't have a right to a tax rate of 15% if you're rich. if
you're rich you pay the same rate as the middle class

Another liberal fable. *The rich pay a 35% tax rate on income. *It's
the rich Demoncrats in DC that pay *no* taxes, as we've all seen over
the last few months, eh?

no, they don't. sorry. the rich make their money on capital gains. and
the capital gains tax is 15%, minus deductions for losses.

sorry, sport, you need to get some facts instead of inventing right
wing myths

On Sep 27, 1:05*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 27, 11:48*am, Jack wrote:

On Sep 27, 11:29*am, wf3h wrote:

and you don't have a right to a tax rate of 15% if you're rich. if
you're rich you pay the same rate as the middle class

Another liberal fable. *The rich pay a 35% tax rate on income. *It's
the rich Demoncrats in DC that pay *no* taxes, as we've all seen over
the last few months, eh?

no, they don't. sorry.

Yes they do, sorry.

the rich make their money on capital gains. and
the capital gains tax is 15%, minus deductions for losses.

The rate for Long Term Capital gains is 15% for the "rich", and 0% for
the poor. Ooops.

sorry, sport, you need to get some facts instead of inventing right
wing myths

How about those Demoncrats that pay *NO* taxes? Is that OK with you?

On Sep 27, 6:36*pm, Jack wrote:
On Sep 27, 1:05*pm, wf3h wrote:

On Sep 27, 11:48*am, Jack wrote:

On Sep 27, 11:29*am, wf3h wrote:

and you don't have a right to a tax rate of 15% if you're rich. if
you're rich you pay the same rate as the middle class

Another liberal fable. *The rich pay a 35% tax rate on income. *It's
the rich Demoncrats in DC that pay *no* taxes, as we've all seen over
the last few months, eh?

no, they don't. sorry.

Yes they do, sorry.

*the rich make their money on capital gains. and

the capital gains tax is 15%, minus deductions for losses.

The rate for Long Term Capital gains is 15% for the "rich", and 0% for
the poor. *Ooops.

that's because the poor work for a living and pay 28%.

oh. you just ignore what the middle class pays because only the rich
are important.


sorry, sport, you need to get some facts instead of inventing right
wing myths

How about those Demoncrats that pay *NO* taxes? *Is that OK with you?

and the GOP has it structured so they pay no taxes anyhow, relying on
the middle class to bail 'em out. after all, that's how they maintain
their success

then they get folks like you to tell us how lucky we are to support
the rich

On Sep 27, 9:29*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 27, 6:36*pm, Jack wrote:





On Sep 27, 1:05*pm, wf3h wrote:

On Sep 27, 11:48*am, Jack wrote:

On Sep 27, 11:29*am, wf3h wrote:

and you don't have a right to a tax rate of 15% if you're rich. if
you're rich you pay the same rate as the middle class

Another liberal fable. *The rich pay a 35% tax rate on income. *It's
the rich Demoncrats in DC that pay *no* taxes, as we've all seen over
the last few months, eh?

no, they don't. sorry.

Yes they do, sorry.

*the rich make their money on capital gains. and

the capital gains tax is 15%, minus deductions for losses.

Capital gains is a tax on investments. You *hope* you get to pay a
15% tax on a gain, because the alternative is that you lost some, or
all, of you initial investment. Meanwhile, you're still paying 35% on
your income, which is what you used when you gambled on the
investment.

So take a working professional making $500k a year, with $200k in
adjusted capital gains. Since deductions have long been phased out at
this income level, we can apply some simple math and see this person
pays about $205k in taxes. That's not enough? Why do you want to
penalize people that worked hard and becaome successful?


The rate for Long Term Capital gains is 15% for the "rich", and 0% for
the poor. *Ooops.

that's because the poor work for a living and pay 28%.


You're terribly confused. The single income range for a 28% tax rate
is $78,851 – $164,550; married filing jointly is $131,451 –
$200,300... hardly "poor". Your irrational hatred of successful
people is blinding you.

Jack wrote:
On Sep 27, 9:29 pm, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 27, 6:36 pm, Jack wrote:





On Sep 27, 1:05 pm, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 27, 11:48 am, Jack wrote:
On Sep 27, 11:29 am, wf3h wrote:
and you don't have a right to a tax rate of 15% if you're rich. if
you're rich you pay the same rate as the middle class
Another liberal fable. The rich pay a 35% tax rate on income. It's
the rich Demoncrats in DC that pay *no* taxes, as we've all seen over
the last few months, eh?
no, they don't. sorry.
Yes they do, sorry.
the rich make their money on capital gains. and
the capital gains tax is 15%, minus deductions for losses.

Capital gains is a tax on investments. You *hope* you get to pay a
15% tax on a gain, because the alternative is that you lost some, or
all, of you initial investment. Meanwhile, you're still paying 35% on
your income, which is what you used when you gambled on the
investment.

So take a working professional making $500k a year, with $200k in
adjusted capital gains. Since deductions have long been phased out at
this income level, we can apply some simple math and see this person
pays about $205k in taxes. That's not enough? Why do you want to
penalize people that worked hard and becaome successful?

The rate for Long Term Capital gains is 15% for the "rich", and 0% for
the poor. Ooops.
that's because the poor work for a living and pay 28%.


You're terribly confused. The single income range for a 28% tax rate
is $78,851 – $164,550; married filing jointly is $131,451 –
$200,300... hardly "poor". Your irrational hatred of successful
people is blinding you.


Perhaps he'd feel better if we took up a collection to help him get back
on his feet.

On Sep 28, 9:35*am, Jack wrote:
On Sep 27, 9:29*pm, wf3h wrote:


the capital gains tax is 15%, minus deductions for losses.

Capital gains is a tax on investments. *You *hope* you get to pay a
15% tax on a gain, because the alternative is that you lost some, or
all, of you initial investment. *Meanwhile, you're still paying 35% on
your income, which is what you used when you gambled on the
investment.

it's a tax on investment INCOME. you pay it when you SELL the
investment otherwise you don't pay taxes on equities.

not too sharp at this are you?



So take a working professional making $500k a year, with $200k in
adjusted capital gains. *Since deductions have long been phased out at
this income level, we can apply some simple math and see this person
pays about $205k in taxes. *That's not enough? *Why do you want to
penalize people that worked hard and becaome successful?

?? gee you want to tax and penalize the middle class which works
hard...harder than the rich.

the hedgefund managers in your mind are worth more than firefighters,
nurses, police officers, etc. after all the hedgefund manager made
$100M by gambling, and he only pays 15% tax rate. so in your mind, the
firefighter SHOULD pay a 28% rate because he's committed the sin of
'not being successful'

yeah you're a sock puppet for the rich, all right.





The rate for Long Term Capital gains is 15% for the "rich", and 0% for
the poor. *Ooops.

that's because the poor work for a living and pay 28%.

You're terribly confused. *The single income range for a 28% tax rate
is $78,851 – $164,550; married filing jointly is $131,451 –
$200,300... hardly "poor". *Your irrational hatred of successful
people is blinding you

ROFLMAO!!! that's a middle class income, as opposed to your view of
the rich who only pay 15%

of course you're kind of dumb so don't know the difference between
investments and investment INCOME...

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Sep 27, 11:29 am, wf3h wrote:


and you don't have a right to a tax rate of 15% if you're rich. if
you're rich you pay the same rate as the middle class

Another liberal fable. The rich pay a 35% tax rate on income. It's
the rich Demoncrats in DC that pay *no* taxes, as we've all seen over
the last few months, eh?
---
Agrred, lib-dims feel they are exempt:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354846,00.html

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/...ple-pay-taxes/

Scary thought.

On Sep 27, 4:35*pm, "Canuck57" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

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On Sep 27, 11:29 am, wf3h wrote:



and you don't have a right to a tax rate of 15% if you're rich. if
you're rich you pay the same rate as the middle class

Another liberal fable. *The rich pay a 35% tax rate on income. *It's
the rich Demoncrats in DC that pay *no* taxes, as we've all seen over
the last few months, eh?

jesus...another bag of hammers

the tax rate on capital gains is 15%.

but you don't know that 'cuz rush keeps telling you how much he pays
in taxes