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On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 14:44:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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That will not be true when Gore gets his cap and tax bill and your
coal plant will pay double or triple for the coal.


Al Gore is president? No wait, he's in Congress. No... I know. I know. He's
on the Supreme Court!

I originally typed "Obama" but I didn't want to keep slamming a guy
who is basically a puppet for the people who put him in office. You
notice he has backed off of all of his "change" rhetoric since his
Jimmy Carter moment (roughly defined as the day he realized the
president is largely a ceremonial office)
Gore has their ear and is the high priest in the carbon tax crusade.
That cult has taken over the left.

George Soros owns the left.. He has bought and paid for them.

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"JustWait" wrote in message
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No. The point is that Obama's administration has put into place a lot
more
accountability.

ROTFLOL.... Right, accountability!? That's funny...


No. Left accountability. The Right didn't even try to be accountable.

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"JustWait" wrote in message
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Hate to tell you, but the first bank bailout happened during Bush's
administration. Are you going to blame the president for that too?

Why didn't bama learn from Bushes mistake and demand some
accountability
instead of making the same mistake again?


Having trouble spelling? It's "O"bama. There's much more accountability
in
the more recent bailouts.

Why, cause Biden told you, or was it Letterman??


Because of the facts... sorry.

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On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 14:41:14 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Hate to tell you, but the first bank bailout happened during Bush's
administration. Are you going to blame the president for that too?

... and the bank deregulation that allowed it happened on Clinton's
watch with virtually unanimous congressional support (4 nay votes in
the house, 2 D, 2 R, 100% support in the senate)
There is plenty of blame to go around.


I agree! But, there are some that only want to blame Obama or Bush.
Instead
of blame, how about looking at the facts, what happened, and how to fix
it?
Nahhh... too straightforward.


The only real "fix" is to rebuild American industry and start making
things here again instead of just creating "prosperity" on paper.
That may bump into the carbon tax problem. China is building new coal
plants at a rate of 2 a week to fuel their factories. If we can't find
a way of coming up with the energy to compete with that in some
acceptable and economically feasible way we will never dig our way
out of this hole.


I agree. We certainly have the brains. We absolutely need to address the
global implications of China's plants. Doing something by ourselves (talking
greenhouse gases) isn't the ultimate solution. It needs to be a global
effort. We have (and will have more) influence around the world. We need to
use our influence and power for good.

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"JustWait" wrote in message
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I accurately laid it at Bush's door. Believe what you want! You and your
friends here seem to think that racism is funny or can be dismissed as
such.
Comments like this are, unfortunately, typical of those who would rather
create fear and mistrust vs. have an intelligent discussion of the
important
issues.

Liberals have been crying racist any time 'Bama gets criticized.
You've just joined the crowd.

Racist, my ass.

Really. It's a bunch of bull****, but it does seem to kindle flames,
just as it is meant to do... When are minority Americans going to
figure out the only folks that seem to see race in everything is the Dem
leadership... It's just another deflection...


Good grief. You're actually going to deny that the Republican leadership
(Rush, Beck, etc.) are not racists?

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wrote in message
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On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 14:44:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

That will not be true when Gore gets his cap and tax bill and your
coal plant will pay double or triple for the coal.


Al Gore is president? No wait, he's in Congress. No... I know. I know.
He's
on the Supreme Court!

I originally typed "Obama" but I didn't want to keep slamming a guy
who is basically a puppet for the people who put him in office. You
notice he has backed off of all of his "change" rhetoric since his
Jimmy Carter moment (roughly defined as the day he realized the
president is largely a ceremonial office)
Gore has their ear and is the high priest in the carbon tax crusade.
That cult has taken over the left.


How do you come to the conclusion that Obama is a puppet? The majority of
Americans put him in office and by a wide margin in the electoral college.

We'll see if he backs off his "change" rhetoric. It's not clear yet. If he
does, e.g., giving away the public option to a bunch of right-wing stooges
of the insurance industry (no, there are Democrats there also), he will lose
his base. Not sure what Carter has to do with anything. He's been out of
office for a while now. I was never a big fan of his.

I guess it's got to be someone's fault, so Gore is it?

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"JustWait" wrote in message
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George Soros owns the left.. He has bought and paid for them.


I got the check last week.

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On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 14:50:43 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Certainly no joke. Cows and such make up the bulk of the greenhouse gas
problem. Besides, the conditions that they are raised in are horrible. Who
would want to eat a cow after visiting a traditional stockyard? Someone
once
said that it's better for the environment to eat a veggie burger in a
Hummer
than a burger in a Prius.


All the more reason to take the Sarah Palin approach and hunt.
A deer is carbon neutral.


Shoot them from a helicopter. Better yet, get her unwed daughter with the
kid to do it.

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"BAR" wrote in message
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The real solution is to stop eating so much meat. That would have an
immediate and positive effect. The other things take years.

It will cost you three or four times as much in energy to replace the
animal protein with plant protein.


?? From where do you get such notions... the moon?

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On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 21:26:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

The only real "fix" is to rebuild American industry and start making
things here again instead of just creating "prosperity" on paper.
That may bump into the carbon tax problem. China is building new coal
plants at a rate of 2 a week to fuel their factories. If we can't find
a way of coming up with the energy to compete with that in some
acceptable and economically feasible way we will never dig our way
out of this hole.


I agree. We certainly have the brains. We absolutely need to address the
global implications of China's plants. Doing something by ourselves
(talking
greenhouse gases) isn't the ultimate solution. It needs to be a global
effort. We have (and will have more) influence around the world. We need
to
use our influence and power for good.

Unfortunately our power and influence is slipping away very quickly.
In a decade we may be about as important as France, Spain and the UK.
Old empires desperately trying to cling to past glories. China may
just call the debt and do what the Soviets couldn't do with 10,000
nuclear weapons ... bury us.


Well, I'm not that worried about China. They need us in some ways more than
we need them. I read somewhere about the consequences of them pulling the
plug on credit, and the conclusion was that they would suffer more.

In some ways, I'm more concerned about the "new" Russia. While they
certainly have their own economic problems, they also have a very strong
nationalistic bent and the money to push. I'm also concerned about
Pakistan/India. Talk about mutual paranoia... with nukes to boot.

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