Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


Did we talk about death panels yet?

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492&page=1


Not to worry; they'll only be set up to visit cantankerous old fart
conservatives.

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Indeed - lets talk pesky facts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082502734.html

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...te-house-deal/

The model for Obama care.

http://www.boston.com/news/health/ar..._in_cou ntry/

http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas...h_insuran ce/

Did we mention rationing?

http://www.californiahealthline.org/...e-Efforts.aspx

However, to be fair, here's your side of the issue.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...he_massac.html

Then there are the facts.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...ilblazing-its-

But let's not stop there - another "obamacare" type system.

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/i...nce_rates.html

Did we talk about death panels yet?

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492&page=1

And of course, the best one of all - gambling for health care.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334813,00.html

Facts are pesky indeed.

You've done a VERY good job at what John would probably describe as
Obama derangement syndrome and have also done well at avoiding
mentioning anything about the lies that the conservatives are dishing
out about health care reform.

In article ,
says...

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Indeed - lets talk pesky facts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082502734.html

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...te-house-deal/

The model for Obama care.

http://www.boston.com/news/health/ar..._in_cou ntry/

http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas...h_insuran ce/

Did we mention rationing?

http://www.californiahealthline.org/...e-Efforts.aspx

However, to be fair, here's your side of the issue.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...he_massac.html

Then there are the facts.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...ilblazing-its-

But let's not stop there - another "obamacare" type system.

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/i...nce_rates.html

Did we talk about death panels yet?

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492&page=1

And of course, the best one of all - gambling for health care.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334813,00.html

Facts are pesky indeed.

You've done a VERY good job at what John would probably describe as
Obama derangement syndrome and have also done well at avoiding
mentioning anything about the lies that the conservatives are dishing
out about health care reform.

Cause every time you note one, it turns out to be an "is, is" thing.. We
call 'em "death panels", and you call 'em "end of life panels"...
snerk

Well, last day of summer for me and the kids.. bummer. The Mouse wants
to spend a year at Millsap, yeah right, maybe a week.

Are they anywhere near you?

http://www.mtfmx.com/

If you notice, they cross train with Jiu-Jitsu for strength, and
concentration...

--
Wafa free since 2009

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Indeed - lets talk pesky facts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082502734.html

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...te-house-deal/

The model for Obama care.

http://www.boston.com/news/health/ar..._in_cou ntry/

http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas...h_insuran ce/

Did we mention rationing?

http://www.californiahealthline.org/...e-Efforts.aspx

However, to be fair, here's your side of the issue.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...he_massac.html

Then there are the facts.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...ilblazing-its-

But let's not stop there - another "obamacare" type system.

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/i...nce_rates.html

Did we talk about death panels yet?

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492&page=1

And of course, the best one of all - gambling for health care.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334813,00.html

Facts are pesky indeed.
You've done a VERY good job at what John would probably describe as
Obama derangement syndrome and have also done well at avoiding
mentioning anything about the lies that the conservatives are dishing
out about health care reform.

Cause every time you note one, it turns out to be an "is, is" thing.. We
call 'em "death panels", and you call 'em "end of life panels"...
snerk

Well, last day of summer for me and the kids.. bummer. The Mouse wants
to spend a year at Millsap, yeah right, maybe a week.

Are they anywhere near you?

http://www.mtfmx.com/

If you notice, they cross train with Jiu-Jitsu for strength, and
concentration...



Your kid wants to drop out of school to attend full-time motorcycle
riding school?

Well, that sort of figures...

On Sep 1, 9:47*am, H the K wrote:
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Indeed - lets talk pesky facts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...09/08/25/AR200....

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...tals-see-profi....

The model for Obama care.

http://www.boston.com/news/health/ar...ay_state_healt....

http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas.../2009/08/15/30....

Did we mention rationing?

http://www.californiahealthline.org/...Budget-Pressur....

However, to be fair, here's your side of the issue.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr..._boston_globe_....

Then there are the facts.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...on-globe-story....

But let's not stop there - another "obamacare" type system.

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/i...egon_health_in....

Did we talk about death panels yet?

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492&page=1

And of course, the best one of all - gambling for health care.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334813,00.html

Facts are pesky indeed.
You've done a VERY good job at what John would probably describe as
Obama derangement syndrome and have also done well at avoiding
mentioning anything about the lies that the conservatives are dishing
out about health care reform.

Cause every time you note one, it turns out to be an "is, is" thing.. We
call 'em "death panels", and you call 'em "end of life panels"...
snerk

Well, last day of summer for me and the kids.. bummer. The Mouse wants
to spend a year at Millsap, yeah right, maybe a week.

Are they anywhere near you?

http://www.mtfmx.com/

If you notice, they cross train with Jiu-Jitsu for strength, and
concentration...

Your kid wants to drop out of school to attend full-time motorcycle
riding school?

Well, that sort of figures...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nice post for a test..... to you I say, it's really too bad your kids
never had dreams...

My daughter was about 6 maybe 7 years old when she decided she wanted
to fly. She spent hours and days in the back yard, jumping and
running, finally we built a pair of "wings" for her to try... This all
went on for months and not once did my wife or I tell her she couldn't
do it. She is a smart kid, we figured someday she would find a way and
now she has...

She knows it's not reality to go to MTF right now, but we have taken
on a habit of never telling her "never"... You wouldn't understand,
and if you did, you wouldn't have it in you to admit it. Too bad
really your kids never did anything worth bragging about, I mean, you
do brag about everything else, one can only assume....

Later ****head.. This is a test of beta 2.9.1.1 or something like
that, it should kill this post all together simply because you are in
it.. buh, bye...

On Sep 1, 9:47*am, H the K wrote:
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Indeed - lets talk pesky facts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...09/08/25/AR200....

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...tals-see-profi....

The model for Obama care.

http://www.boston.com/news/health/ar...ay_state_healt....

http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas.../2009/08/15/30....

Did we mention rationing?

http://www.californiahealthline.org/...Budget-Pressur....

However, to be fair, here's your side of the issue.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr..._boston_globe_....

Then there are the facts.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...on-globe-story....

But let's not stop there - another "obamacare" type system.

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/i...egon_health_in....

Did we talk about death panels yet?

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492&page=1

And of course, the best one of all - gambling for health care.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334813,00.html

Facts are pesky indeed.
You've done a VERY good job at what John would probably describe as
Obama derangement syndrome and have also done well at avoiding
mentioning anything about the lies that the conservatives are dishing
out about health care reform.

Cause every time you note one, it turns out to be an "is, is" thing.. We
call 'em "death panels", and you call 'em "end of life panels"...
snerk

Well, last day of summer for me and the kids.. bummer. The Mouse wants
to spend a year at Millsap, yeah right, maybe a week.

Are they anywhere near you?

http://www.mtfmx.com/

If you notice, they cross train with Jiu-Jitsu for strength, and
concentration...

Your kid wants to drop out of school to attend full-time motorcycle
riding school?

Well, that sort of figures...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

second test....

On Sep 1, 9:47*am, H the K wrote:
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Indeed - lets talk pesky facts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...09/08/25/AR200....

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...tals-see-profi....

The model for Obama care.

http://www.boston.com/news/health/ar...ay_state_healt....

http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas.../2009/08/15/30....

Did we mention rationing?

http://www.californiahealthline.org/...Budget-Pressur....

However, to be fair, here's your side of the issue.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr..._boston_globe_....

Then there are the facts.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...on-globe-story....

But let's not stop there - another "obamacare" type system.

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/i...egon_health_in....

Did we talk about death panels yet?

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492&page=1

And of course, the best one of all - gambling for health care.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334813,00.html

Facts are pesky indeed.
You've done a VERY good job at what John would probably describe as
Obama derangement syndrome and have also done well at avoiding
mentioning anything about the lies that the conservatives are dishing
out about health care reform.

Cause every time you note one, it turns out to be an "is, is" thing.. We
call 'em "death panels", and you call 'em "end of life panels"...
snerk

Well, last day of summer for me and the kids.. bummer. The Mouse wants
to spend a year at Millsap, yeah right, maybe a week.

Are they anywhere near you?

http://www.mtfmx.com/

If you notice, they cross train with Jiu-Jitsu for strength, and
concentration...

Your kid wants to drop out of school to attend full-time motorcycle
riding school?

Well, that sort of figures...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

One more time, just for luck

Gene wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MNFT19FC7K.DTL

If we are going to have socialized medicine, why reinvent the wheel?
Let's just put everybody under the VA administration for health care
and, from what most of you folks say, everybody should be happy....

Why wouldn't that work?

I'm guessing it would be acceptable to many here if it weren't for the
fact that there's a liberal in office.

Gene wrote:
On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:27:18 -0400, NotNow penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|Gene wrote:
| On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote:
|
| http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MNFT19FC7K.DTL
|
| If we are going to have socialized medicine, why reinvent the wheel?
| Let's just put everybody under the VA administration for health care
| and, from what most of you folks say, everybody should be happy....
|
| Why wouldn't that work?
|
|I'm guessing it would be acceptable to many here if it weren't for the
|fact that there's a liberal in office.

I find the silence deafening!

Plus, this thread has gone on for so long that I doubt any facts are
now to be found.....



For many years, the VA's health services have been seriously
underfunded. The previous occupant of the White House went to war
without consider the impact the returning wounded would have on the
military's medical delivery systems for active and separated service
personnel.

I see no reason for a federal medical service for "civilians." What is
needed is a system that properly oversights control and operation of
private health insurance companies. I think the Federal Employee Health
Benefit Act provides the model. A "public" insurer owned by the
taxpayers could easily be added to that sort of mix.

At some point you have to ask yourself exactly what the "for profit"
health insurance industry does to improve health care or delivery of
same, aside from a 30% profit to the corporation and its owners.

H the K wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:27:18 -0400, NotNow penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|Gene wrote:
| On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote:
| |
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MNFT19FC7K.DTL

| | If we are going to have socialized medicine, why reinvent the
wheel?
| Let's just put everybody under the VA administration for health care
| and, from what most of you folks say, everybody should be happy....
| | Why wouldn't that work?
|
|I'm guessing it would be acceptable to many here if it weren't for
the |fact that there's a liberal in office.

I find the silence deafening!

Plus, this thread has gone on for so long that I doubt any facts are
now to be found.....



For many years, the VA's health services have been seriously
underfunded. The previous occupant of the White House went to war
without consider the impact the returning wounded would have on the
military's medical delivery systems for active and separated service
personnel.

I see no reason for a federal medical service for "civilians." What is
needed is a system that properly oversights control and operation of
private health insurance companies. I think the Federal Employee Health
Benefit Act provides the model. A "public" insurer owned by the
taxpayers could easily be added to that sort of mix.

At some point you have to ask yourself exactly what the "for profit"
health insurance industry does to improve health care or delivery of
same, aside from a 30% profit to the corporation and its owners.


Damn. I agree with this post.