On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:08:59 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 31, 5:02*pm, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:20:48 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:



On Aug 31, 3:33*pm, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...8/31/MNFT19FC7...

A quote, "President Obama, meanwhile, has said don't worry, the plan
"will be paid for."

Here's the problem. For too many questions, the answer is, "Obama said
so." Obama lies. Even you liberals know that, but you condone it by
saying, "Bush lied".

Obama should not be used for any statements. The appropriate sections
of the act should be quoted.
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how did bush say he was gonna pay for the iraq war?

how did the GOP say they were gonna pay for the tax cuts for the
wealthy?

More 'Bush Rationale' which has nothing to do with the Obamacare Act.
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uh...no. a comparison is being made between policies of the GOP which
benefit the top 1% and those of the democrats which benefit the middle
class


Uh, uh, uh, uh, the subject was healthcare. Obamacare, to be specific.

those who are sycophants of the rich hate the middle class and want
them to be held in poverty...think mexico.

Get over it. You should have paid attention to your assets. A fool and
his money are soon parted. Don't cry over spilled milk, etc. By now
you should get it.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

wf3h wrote:
On Aug 31, 3:33 pm, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...8/31/MNFT19FC7...
A quote, "President Obama, meanwhile, has said don't worry, the plan
"will be paid for."

Here's the problem. For too many questions, the answer is, "Obama said
so." Obama lies. Even you liberals know that, but you condone it by
saying, "Bush lied".

Obama should not be used for any statements. The appropriate sections
of the act should be quoted.
--


how did bush say he was gonna pay for the iraq war?

how did the GOP say they were gonna pay for the tax cuts for the
wealthy?


On the tax cuts, Bush said "It's YOUR money!" A surplus seems to be
more than the so called "conservatives" can handle.

If they were actual conservatives they would pay off the debt and then
save money for a rainy day.

Conservatives in name only are selfish and don't plan ahead. Think only
of the immediate minute and want it all for themselves.

On the war, it's a mystery why those same "conservatives" were silent on
paying for a war on the credit card.

A true conservative should believe in paying the bills, not avoiding
them and letting someone else pay. Which is what they would accuse a
"liberal" of.

On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:27:15 -0700, Jim wrote:

wf3h wrote:
On Aug 31, 3:33 pm, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...8/31/MNFT19FC7...
A quote, "President Obama, meanwhile, has said don't worry, the plan
"will be paid for."

Here's the problem. For too many questions, the answer is, "Obama said
so." Obama lies. Even you liberals know that, but you condone it by
saying, "Bush lied".

Obama should not be used for any statements. The appropriate sections
of the act should be quoted.
--


how did bush say he was gonna pay for the iraq war?

how did the GOP say they were gonna pay for the tax cuts for the
wealthy?


On the tax cuts, Bush said "It's YOUR money!" A surplus seems to be
more than the so called "conservatives" can handle.


There has never been a "surplus." What the country enjoyed at one
time was a projected budget surplus, and the country can thank
Gingrich's Contract with America for pushing the legislative bodies in
that direction. Tax cuts are an effort to revitalize the economy
through the economic exercise of supply-side economics. Supply-side
economics or Reaganomics in part are what led to the Long Boom.

"More revolutionary was the contract's related proposal: a
constitutional amendment requiring a balanced budget."

CONTRACT WITH AMERICA
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3437701121.html

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On Aug 31, 9:11*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:27:15 -0700, Jim wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 31, 3:33 pm, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...8/31/MNFT19FC7...
A quote, "President Obama, meanwhile, has said don't worry, the plan
"will be paid for."

Here's the problem. For too many questions, the answer is, "Obama said
so." Obama lies. Even you liberals know that, but you condone it by
saying, "Bush lied".

Obama should not be used for any statements. The appropriate sections
of the act should be quoted.
--

how did bush say he was gonna pay for the iraq war?

how did the GOP say they were gonna pay for the tax cuts for the
wealthy?

On the tax cuts, Bush said "It's YOUR money!" *A surplus seems to be
more than the so called "conservatives" can handle.

There has never been a "surplus." *What the country enjoyed at one
time was a projected budget surplus, and the country can thank
Gingrich's Contract with America for pushing the legislative bodies in
that direction. *Tax cuts are an effort to revitalize the economy
through the economic exercise of supply-side economics. *Supply-side
economics or Reaganomics in part are what led to the Long Boom.

uh...no. the 2 biggest deficit spenders in history were reagan and gw
bush. neither could say no to the rich

wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:27:15 -0700, Jim wrote:

wf3h wrote:
On Aug 31, 3:33 pm, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...8/31/MNFT19FC7...
A quote, "President Obama, meanwhile, has said don't worry, the plan
"will be paid for."

Here's the problem. For too many questions, the answer is, "Obama said
so." Obama lies. Even you liberals know that, but you condone it by
saying, "Bush lied".

Obama should not be used for any statements. The appropriate sections
of the act should be quoted.
--

how did bush say he was gonna pay for the iraq war?

how did the GOP say they were gonna pay for the tax cuts for the
wealthy?

On the tax cuts, Bush said "It's YOUR money!" A surplus seems to be
more than the so called "conservatives" can handle.


There has never been a "surplus." What the country enjoyed at one
time was a projected budget surplus, and the country can thank
Gingrich's Contract with America for pushing the legislative bodies in
that direction. Tax cuts are an effort to revitalize the economy
through the economic exercise of supply-side economics. Supply-side
economics or Reaganomics in part are what led to the Long Boom.

"More revolutionary was the contract's related proposal: a
constitutional amendment requiring a balanced budget."

CONTRACT WITH AMERICA
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3437701121.html

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Good explanation of the surplus:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aGqLx61MRY6w

And then, there's this, which fits right into your explanation:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...1091621AAQVd1h

So, what happened to the "Contract with America?"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_with_America

What allowed Bush to treat the federal budget like his personal
playground, to invite all his supporters to a share of the treasury?


Please explain.

While I'm waiting, I'll offer this explanation:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20051024/borosage

In fairness, the budget surplus was due to both parties cooperating. It
only took one party a few months to undue the surplus. Which one was that?

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MNFT19FC7K.DTL

A quote, "President Obama, meanwhile, has said don't worry, the plan
"will be paid for."

Here's the problem. For too many questions, the answer is, "Obama said
so." Obama lies. Even you liberals know that, but you condone it by
saying, "Bush lied".

Obama should not be used for any statements. The appropriate sections
of the act should be quoted.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

The guy I referred to in an earlier post, a former evangelical religious
leader, Frank Schaeffer, wrote an op-ed article which I assume appears
in many newspapers today, on exactly this subject.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/...,6001884.story

He really seems to be beside himself in grief for what he helped create,
the right wing religious argument.

He helped create it by realizing how to manipulate people with strong
beliefs, based in emotion.

It will be interesting to follow this guy and see how he tries to undo
the foolishness he helped create. The foolishness Palin and John H love
to spread.

Get out your old right wing literature and see who wrote it. He's now
sorry for what he helped start.

On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Indeed - lets talk pesky facts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082502734.html

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...te-house-deal/

The model for Obama care.

http://www.boston.com/news/health/ar..._in_cou ntry/

http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas...h_insuran ce/

Did we mention rationing?

http://www.californiahealthline.org/...e-Efforts.aspx

However, to be fair, here's your side of the issue.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...he_massac.html

Then there are the facts.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...ilblazing-its-

But let's not stop there - another "obamacare" type system.

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/i...nce_rates.html

Did we talk about death panels yet?

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492&page=1

And of course, the best one of all - gambling for health care.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334813,00.html

Facts are pesky indeed.

On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:37:15 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Indeed - lets talk pesky facts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082502734.html

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...te-house-deal/

The model for Obama care.

http://www.boston.com/news/health/ar..._in_cou ntry/

http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas...h_insuran ce/

Did we mention rationing?

http://www.californiahealthline.org/...e-Efforts.aspx

However, to be fair, here's your side of the issue.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...he_massac.html

Then there are the facts.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...ilblazing-its-

But let's not stop there - another "obamacare" type system.

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/i...nce_rates.html

Did we talk about death panels yet?

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492&page=1

And of course, the best one of all - gambling for health care.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334813,00.html

Facts are pesky indeed.

Shame on you. They're not 'death panels', they're 'end of life'
panels. Any astute individual could figure out that 'end of life' has
absolutely nothing to do with death.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:37:15 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Indeed - lets talk pesky facts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082502734.html

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...te-house-deal/

The model for Obama care.

http://www.boston.com/news/health/ar..._in_cou ntry/

http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas...h_insuran ce/

Did we mention rationing?

http://www.californiahealthline.org/...e-Efforts.aspx

However, to be fair, here's your side of the issue.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...he_massac.html

Then there are the facts.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...ilblazing-its-

But let's not stop there - another "obamacare" type system.

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/i...nce_rates.html

Did we talk about death panels yet?

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492&page=1

And of course, the best one of all - gambling for health care.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334813,00.html

Facts are pesky indeed.

Shame on you. They're not 'death panels', they're 'end of life'
panels. Any astute individual could figure out that 'end of life' has
absolutely nothing to do with death.
--
John H


Just remember, we also want to eat your babies. Right after we kill the
elderly.

On Sep 1, 9:24*am, NotNow wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:37:15 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Indeed - lets talk pesky facts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...09/08/25/AR200....

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...tals-see-profi....

The model for Obama care.

http://www.boston.com/news/health/ar...ay_state_healt....

http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas.../2009/08/15/30....

Did we mention rationing?

http://www.californiahealthline.org/...Budget-Pressur....

However, to be fair, here's your side of the issue.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr..._boston_globe_....

Then there are the facts.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...on-globe-story....

But let's not stop there - another "obamacare" type system.

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/i...egon_health_in....

Did we talk about death panels yet?

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492&page=1

And of course, the best one of all - gambling for health care.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334813,00.html

Facts are pesky indeed.

Shame on you. They're not 'death panels', they're 'end of life'
panels. Any astute individual could figure out that 'end of life' has
absolutely nothing to do with death.
--
John H

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