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Those pesky facts again about healthcare
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:03:46 -0400, NotNow wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:39:51 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:50:40 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:06:36 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:42:42 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:57:40 -0400, NotNow wrote: John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:02 -0400, NotNow wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:44:09 -0400, NotNow wrote: So recent history has no bearing on what's happening today? Never said that. But the history that counts starts today. Cool! Guess that means I don't have to pay my car payment because I didn't buy the car today? Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance. Yes, Obama is. One must wonder why he is still there if so many liberals think Iraq was a bad idea. -- Maybe because he is doing what HE thinks is right, as opposed to doing what Rush thinks is right. I believe Rush thought Iraq was a good idea. I guess he and BO are thinking alike on this issue. As long as we all understand whose war it is now. -- John H Do you think it would be easier to withdraw from a war that someone started for some unknown reason, or to have not started it in the first place? Are you of the mindset that what happened in the past has no bearing on what happens now? Listen, fact is Obama ran on the promise that he had a plan to pull us out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Gitmo.. promised he would be transparent, reach across the isle... And that was just in one speech. So, really he didn't have a plan for any of these issues. And you all bought it. Remember, half the country didn't... You didn't answer my questions. Obama did, he said he had a plan, period. He didn't have a clue... You didn't answer my questions. Ok, here is your answer. I don't know. How's that. Of course I didn't get to be POTUS on the basis that I did... So now answer mine, did Obama lie, or was he clueless? Neither. He made a timing mistake. He didn't realize fully how much Bush ****ed things up. So your answer is "clueless". I can accept that. Again, putting words on my mouth. Not to worry, it happens a lot when a conservative has nothing but spin. liberal = bad conservative = good. Got it. Now I've got some elderly folks to kill off..... didn't realize=clueless Wake up, Loog. The guy has you mesmerized or ****ed off because you voted for him. I hope it's the latter, but it sounds more and more like the former. -- John H Neither. Unlike you, I can see both sides of an issue. So, we have answered all of your questions... Please tell me what Bush did that was good in your eyes, and tell me what is wrong with one of the bills put up by repubs on health care, since you said they were "opposite of everything they (dems) believe".. Thanks, I will check back tonight for the list... What is wrong with the bills is that they all keep health care costs where they are now, lining the pockets of their contributers. What did Bush do that I agree with? Well, when he finally sent General Honore to take control, that was a success. And he done a fine job ducking that shoe that was thrown at him. And I liked his pick in John Roberts. Obama now has the unemployment rate up to 9.7%. But, he's saved over twelve million jobs. What a guy. I'm surprised he's not patting himself on the back for that feat. Biden is... It's tough cleaning up the **** stains that Bush left. See, we actually look at the numbers. The economy didn't crash out till Pelosi and Reid (bought and paid for by Soros) sold us out to big oil and the banks and wall street by refusing to take the reigns, instead of 200+ investigations about weather Scooter Libby remembered the right date of a conversation... Of course it was the best way to win an election and after all, who really got hurt anyway? snerk Wait till you see what is going to happen to our security while the Congress goes after Cheney through our intelligence agencies, in a personal vendetta of hypocrisy... And we want to kill the elderly, don't forget..... I've never seen anyone but you say that, and it's pretty sick. You don't mention the babies, which *are* being killed by liberals. You and Scotty BOTH stated right here that Obama wants to show the elderly how to Euthanize themselves. Never, never said that at all. All I ever said and read carefully was: There are panels of unassociated people who would be available as "end of life panels" (Obama's words not mine), only difference is I called them "death" panels. I guess I can admit to not knowing that "end of life" and "death" are two totally different concepts... But I never said anything about euthanasia, never, not once. Perhaps you missed when John said this about Obama. Notice, if you will the "help elderly meet a timely death". What in hell does that sound like to you? Be a devout Christian, kill babies, help the elderly meet a 'timely' death, enlarge government as much as possible, allow the 15 million illegals in this country to fast track....... And you have agreed with him on this point, going as far as quoting some right wing lie where someone said that Obama's bill could put us on the road to forced euthanasia! Hey Loogy, just what the hell is an 'end of life panel' supposed to do if not help the elderly meet a timely death. Would they be working towards an 'untimely' death? Because I'll tell you, *that's* what the fear is. Not many old folks trust 'Bama. But, there is no way I suggested 'Bama said he was going to euthanize anyfriggin' body. An apology is in order - to both Scotty and me. Bull****. You've READ the friggin' thing, it says NOTHING like what you are claiming. Goodbye Loogy. When you've decided to stop putting *your* words into other people's mouths, let me know. -- John H "Vote for a Democrat, it's easier than working!" |
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#163
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Those pesky facts again about healthcare
In article ,
says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:50:40 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:06:36 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:42:42 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:57:40 -0400, NotNow wrote: John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:02 -0400, NotNow wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:44:09 -0400, NotNow wrote: So recent history has no bearing on what's happening today? Never said that. But the history that counts starts today. Cool! Guess that means I don't have to pay my car payment because I didn't buy the car today? Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance. Yes, Obama is. One must wonder why he is still there if so many liberals think Iraq was a bad idea. -- Maybe because he is doing what HE thinks is right, as opposed to doing what Rush thinks is right. I believe Rush thought Iraq was a good idea. I guess he and BO are thinking alike on this issue. As long as we all understand whose war it is now. -- John H Do you think it would be easier to withdraw from a war that someone started for some unknown reason, or to have not started it in the first place? Are you of the mindset that what happened in the past has no bearing on what happens now? Listen, fact is Obama ran on the promise that he had a plan to pull us out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Gitmo.. promised he would be transparent, reach across the isle... And that was just in one speech. So, really he didn't have a plan for any of these issues. And you all bought it. Remember, half the country didn't... You didn't answer my questions. Obama did, he said he had a plan, period. He didn't have a clue... You didn't answer my questions. Ok, here is your answer. I don't know. How's that. Of course I didn't get to be POTUS on the basis that I did... So now answer mine, did Obama lie, or was he clueless? Neither. He made a timing mistake. He didn't realize fully how much Bush ****ed things up. So your answer is "clueless". I can accept that. Again, putting words on my mouth. Not to worry, it happens a lot when a conservative has nothing but spin. liberal = bad conservative = good. Got it. Now I've got some elderly folks to kill off..... didn't realize=clueless Wake up, Loog. The guy has you mesmerized or ****ed off because you voted for him. I hope it's the latter, but it sounds more and more like the former. -- John H Neither. Unlike you, I can see both sides of an issue. So, we have answered all of your questions... Please tell me what Bush did that was good in your eyes, and tell me what is wrong with one of the bills put up by repubs on health care, since you said they were "opposite of everything they (dems) believe".. Thanks, I will check back tonight for the list... What is wrong with the bills is that they all keep health care costs where they are now, lining the pockets of their contributers. What did Bush do that I agree with? Well, when he finally sent General Honore to take control, that was a success. And he done a fine job ducking that shoe that was thrown at him. And I liked his pick in John Roberts. Obama now has the unemployment rate up to 9.7%. But, he's saved over twelve million jobs. What a guy. I'm surprised he's not patting himself on the back for that feat. Biden is... It's tough cleaning up the **** stains that Bush left. See, we actually look at the numbers. The economy didn't crash out till Pelosi and Reid (bought and paid for by Soros) sold us out to big oil and the banks and wall street by refusing to take the reigns, instead of 200+ investigations about weather Scooter Libby remembered the right date of a conversation... Of course it was the best way to win an election and after all, who really got hurt anyway? snerk Wait till you see what is going to happen to our security while the Congress goes after Cheney through our intelligence agencies, in a personal vendetta of hypocrisy... And we want to kill the elderly, don't forget..... I've never seen anyone but you say that, and it's pretty sick. You don't mention the babies, which *are* being killed by liberals. You and Scotty BOTH stated right here that Obama wants to show the elderly how to Euthanize themselves. Never, never said that at all. All I ever said and read carefully was: There are panels of unassociated people who would be available as "end of life panels" (Obama's words not mine), only difference is I called them "death" panels. I guess I can admit to not knowing that "end of life" and "death" are two totally different concepts... But I never said anything about euthanasia, never, not once. Perhaps you missed when John said this about Obama. Notice, if you will the "help elderly meet a timely death". What in hell does that sound like to you? Be a devout Christian, kill babies, help the elderly meet a 'timely' death, enlarge government as much as possible, allow the 15 million illegals in this country to fast track....... And you have agreed with him on this point, going as far as quoting some right wing lie where someone said that Obama's bill could put us on the road to forced euthanasia! I still didn't say it... Oh, so as long as you agree to OTHER people's lies, then it isn't a lie??? Never said I agreed either... You really need to seperate us from each other, we are not one collective, we don't all "look alike" to you do we? -- Wafa free since 2009 |
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#164
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Those pesky facts again about healthcare
JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:03:46 -0400, NotNow wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:39:51 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:50:40 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:06:36 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:42:42 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:57:40 -0400, NotNow wrote: John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:02 -0400, NotNow wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:44:09 -0400, NotNow wrote: So recent history has no bearing on what's happening today? Never said that. But the history that counts starts today. Cool! Guess that means I don't have to pay my car payment because I didn't buy the car today? Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance. Yes, Obama is. One must wonder why he is still there if so many liberals think Iraq was a bad idea. -- Maybe because he is doing what HE thinks is right, as opposed to doing what Rush thinks is right. I believe Rush thought Iraq was a good idea. I guess he and BO are thinking alike on this issue. As long as we all understand whose war it is now. -- John H Do you think it would be easier to withdraw from a war that someone started for some unknown reason, or to have not started it in the first place? Are you of the mindset that what happened in the past has no bearing on what happens now? Listen, fact is Obama ran on the promise that he had a plan to pull us out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Gitmo.. promised he would be transparent, reach across the isle... And that was just in one speech. So, really he didn't have a plan for any of these issues. And you all bought it. Remember, half the country didn't... You didn't answer my questions. Obama did, he said he had a plan, period. He didn't have a clue... You didn't answer my questions. Ok, here is your answer. I don't know. How's that. Of course I didn't get to be POTUS on the basis that I did... So now answer mine, did Obama lie, or was he clueless? Neither. He made a timing mistake. He didn't realize fully how much Bush ****ed things up. So your answer is "clueless". I can accept that. Again, putting words on my mouth. Not to worry, it happens a lot when a conservative has nothing but spin. liberal = bad conservative = good. Got it. Now I've got some elderly folks to kill off..... didn't realize=clueless Wake up, Loog. The guy has you mesmerized or ****ed off because you voted for him. I hope it's the latter, but it sounds more and more like the former. -- John H Neither. Unlike you, I can see both sides of an issue. So, we have answered all of your questions... Please tell me what Bush did that was good in your eyes, and tell me what is wrong with one of the bills put up by repubs on health care, since you said they were "opposite of everything they (dems) believe".. Thanks, I will check back tonight for the list... What is wrong with the bills is that they all keep health care costs where they are now, lining the pockets of their contributers. What did Bush do that I agree with? Well, when he finally sent General Honore to take control, that was a success. And he done a fine job ducking that shoe that was thrown at him. And I liked his pick in John Roberts. Obama now has the unemployment rate up to 9.7%. But, he's saved over twelve million jobs. What a guy. I'm surprised he's not patting himself on the back for that feat. Biden is... It's tough cleaning up the **** stains that Bush left. See, we actually look at the numbers. The economy didn't crash out till Pelosi and Reid (bought and paid for by Soros) sold us out to big oil and the banks and wall street by refusing to take the reigns, instead of 200+ investigations about weather Scooter Libby remembered the right date of a conversation... Of course it was the best way to win an election and after all, who really got hurt anyway? snerk Wait till you see what is going to happen to our security while the Congress goes after Cheney through our intelligence agencies, in a personal vendetta of hypocrisy... And we want to kill the elderly, don't forget..... I've never seen anyone but you say that, and it's pretty sick. You don't mention the babies, which *are* being killed by liberals. You and Scotty BOTH stated right here that Obama wants to show the elderly how to Euthanize themselves. Never, never said that at all. All I ever said and read carefully was: There are panels of unassociated people who would be available as "end of life panels" (Obama's words not mine), only difference is I called them "death" panels. I guess I can admit to not knowing that "end of life" and "death" are two totally different concepts... But I never said anything about euthanasia, never, not once. Perhaps you missed when John said this about Obama. Notice, if you will the "help elderly meet a timely death". What in hell does that sound like to you? Be a devout Christian, kill babies, help the elderly meet a 'timely' death, enlarge government as much as possible, allow the 15 million illegals in this country to fast track....... And you have agreed with him on this point, going as far as quoting some right wing lie where someone said that Obama's bill could put us on the road to forced euthanasia! Hey Loogy, just what the hell is an 'end of life panel' supposed to do if not help the elderly meet a timely death. Would they be working towards an 'untimely' death? Because I'll tell you, *that's* what the fear is. Not many old folks trust 'Bama. But, there is no way I suggested 'Bama said he was going to euthanize anyfriggin' body. An apology is in order - to both Scotty and me. Bull****. You've READ the friggin' thing, it says NOTHING like what you are claiming. Goodbye Loogy. When you've decided to stop putting *your* words into other people's mouths, let me know. What words did I put in your mouth, John? Did you not say "Be a devout Christian, kill babies, help the elderly meet a 'timely' death, enlarge government as much as possible, allow the 15 million illegals in this country to fast track."??????? |
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#165
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Those pesky facts again about healthcare
JustWait wrote:
In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:50:40 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:06:36 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:42:42 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:57:40 -0400, NotNow wrote: John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:02 -0400, NotNow wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:44:09 -0400, NotNow wrote: So recent history has no bearing on what's happening today? Never said that. But the history that counts starts today. Cool! Guess that means I don't have to pay my car payment because I didn't buy the car today? Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance. Yes, Obama is. One must wonder why he is still there if so many liberals think Iraq was a bad idea. -- Maybe because he is doing what HE thinks is right, as opposed to doing what Rush thinks is right. I believe Rush thought Iraq was a good idea. I guess he and BO are thinking alike on this issue. As long as we all understand whose war it is now. -- John H Do you think it would be easier to withdraw from a war that someone started for some unknown reason, or to have not started it in the first place? Are you of the mindset that what happened in the past has no bearing on what happens now? Listen, fact is Obama ran on the promise that he had a plan to pull us out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Gitmo.. promised he would be transparent, reach across the isle... And that was just in one speech. So, really he didn't have a plan for any of these issues. And you all bought it. Remember, half the country didn't... You didn't answer my questions. Obama did, he said he had a plan, period. He didn't have a clue... You didn't answer my questions. Ok, here is your answer. I don't know. How's that. Of course I didn't get to be POTUS on the basis that I did... So now answer mine, did Obama lie, or was he clueless? Neither. He made a timing mistake. He didn't realize fully how much Bush ****ed things up. So your answer is "clueless". I can accept that. Again, putting words on my mouth. Not to worry, it happens a lot when a conservative has nothing but spin. liberal = bad conservative = good. Got it. Now I've got some elderly folks to kill off..... didn't realize=clueless Wake up, Loog. The guy has you mesmerized or ****ed off because you voted for him. I hope it's the latter, but it sounds more and more like the former. -- John H Neither. Unlike you, I can see both sides of an issue. So, we have answered all of your questions... Please tell me what Bush did that was good in your eyes, and tell me what is wrong with one of the bills put up by repubs on health care, since you said they were "opposite of everything they (dems) believe".. Thanks, I will check back tonight for the list... What is wrong with the bills is that they all keep health care costs where they are now, lining the pockets of their contributers. What did Bush do that I agree with? Well, when he finally sent General Honore to take control, that was a success. And he done a fine job ducking that shoe that was thrown at him. And I liked his pick in John Roberts. Obama now has the unemployment rate up to 9.7%. But, he's saved over twelve million jobs. What a guy. I'm surprised he's not patting himself on the back for that feat. Biden is... It's tough cleaning up the **** stains that Bush left. See, we actually look at the numbers. The economy didn't crash out till Pelosi and Reid (bought and paid for by Soros) sold us out to big oil and the banks and wall street by refusing to take the reigns, instead of 200+ investigations about weather Scooter Libby remembered the right date of a conversation... Of course it was the best way to win an election and after all, who really got hurt anyway? snerk Wait till you see what is going to happen to our security while the Congress goes after Cheney through our intelligence agencies, in a personal vendetta of hypocrisy... And we want to kill the elderly, don't forget..... I've never seen anyone but you say that, and it's pretty sick. You don't mention the babies, which *are* being killed by liberals. You and Scotty BOTH stated right here that Obama wants to show the elderly how to Euthanize themselves. Never, never said that at all. All I ever said and read carefully was: There are panels of unassociated people who would be available as "end of life panels" (Obama's words not mine), only difference is I called them "death" panels. I guess I can admit to not knowing that "end of life" and "death" are two totally different concepts... But I never said anything about euthanasia, never, not once. Perhaps you missed when John said this about Obama. Notice, if you will the "help elderly meet a timely death". What in hell does that sound like to you? Be a devout Christian, kill babies, help the elderly meet a 'timely' death, enlarge government as much as possible, allow the 15 million illegals in this country to fast track....... And you have agreed with him on this point, going as far as quoting some right wing lie where someone said that Obama's bill could put us on the road to forced euthanasia! I still didn't say it... Oh, so as long as you agree to OTHER people's lies, then it isn't a lie??? Never said I agreed either... You really need to seperate us from each other, we are not one collective, we don't all "look alike" to you do we? Are you saying you didn't agree with Johns post? |
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#166
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Those pesky facts again about healthcare
In article ,
says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:50:40 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:06:36 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:42:42 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:57:40 -0400, NotNow wrote: John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:02 -0400, NotNow wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:44:09 -0400, NotNow wrote: So recent history has no bearing on what's happening today? Never said that. But the history that counts starts today. Cool! Guess that means I don't have to pay my car payment because I didn't buy the car today? Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance. Yes, Obama is. One must wonder why he is still there if so many liberals think Iraq was a bad idea. -- Maybe because he is doing what HE thinks is right, as opposed to doing what Rush thinks is right. I believe Rush thought Iraq was a good idea. I guess he and BO are thinking alike on this issue. As long as we all understand whose war it is now. -- John H Do you think it would be easier to withdraw from a war that someone started for some unknown reason, or to have not started it in the first place? Are you of the mindset that what happened in the past has no bearing on what happens now? Listen, fact is Obama ran on the promise that he had a plan to pull us out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Gitmo.. promised he would be transparent, reach across the isle... And that was just in one speech. So, really he didn't have a plan for any of these issues. And you all bought it. Remember, half the country didn't... You didn't answer my questions. Obama did, he said he had a plan, period. He didn't have a clue... You didn't answer my questions. Ok, here is your answer. I don't know. How's that. Of course I didn't get to be POTUS on the basis that I did... So now answer mine, did Obama lie, or was he clueless? Neither. He made a timing mistake. He didn't realize fully how much Bush ****ed things up. So your answer is "clueless". I can accept that. Again, putting words on my mouth. Not to worry, it happens a lot when a conservative has nothing but spin. liberal = bad conservative = good. Got it. Now I've got some elderly folks to kill off..... didn't realize=clueless Wake up, Loog. The guy has you mesmerized or ****ed off because you voted for him. I hope it's the latter, but it sounds more and more like the former. -- John H Neither. Unlike you, I can see both sides of an issue. So, we have answered all of your questions... Please tell me what Bush did that was good in your eyes, and tell me what is wrong with one of the bills put up by repubs on health care, since you said they were "opposite of everything they (dems) believe".. Thanks, I will check back tonight for the list... What is wrong with the bills is that they all keep health care costs where they are now, lining the pockets of their contributers. What did Bush do that I agree with? Well, when he finally sent General Honore to take control, that was a success. And he done a fine job ducking that shoe that was thrown at him. And I liked his pick in John Roberts. Obama now has the unemployment rate up to 9.7%. But, he's saved over twelve million jobs. What a guy. I'm surprised he's not patting himself on the back for that feat. Biden is... It's tough cleaning up the **** stains that Bush left. See, we actually look at the numbers. The economy didn't crash out till Pelosi and Reid (bought and paid for by Soros) sold us out to big oil and the banks and wall street by refusing to take the reigns, instead of 200+ investigations about weather Scooter Libby remembered the right date of a conversation... Of course it was the best way to win an election and after all, who really got hurt anyway? snerk Wait till you see what is going to happen to our security while the Congress goes after Cheney through our intelligence agencies, in a personal vendetta of hypocrisy... And we want to kill the elderly, don't forget..... I've never seen anyone but you say that, and it's pretty sick. You don't mention the babies, which *are* being killed by liberals. You and Scotty BOTH stated right here that Obama wants to show the elderly how to Euthanize themselves. Never, never said that at all. All I ever said and read carefully was: There are panels of unassociated people who would be available as "end of life panels" (Obama's words not mine), only difference is I called them "death" panels. I guess I can admit to not knowing that "end of life" and "death" are two totally different concepts... But I never said anything about euthanasia, never, not once. Perhaps you missed when John said this about Obama. Notice, if you will the "help elderly meet a timely death". What in hell does that sound like to you? Be a devout Christian, kill babies, help the elderly meet a 'timely' death, enlarge government as much as possible, allow the 15 million illegals in this country to fast track....... And you have agreed with him on this point, going as far as quoting some right wing lie where someone said that Obama's bill could put us on the road to forced euthanasia! I still didn't say it... Oh, so as long as you agree to OTHER people's lies, then it isn't a lie??? Never said I agreed either... You really need to seperate us from each other, we are not one collective, we don't all "look alike" to you do we? Are you saying you didn't agree with Johns post? I am... -- Wafa free since 2009 |
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#167
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Those pesky facts again about healthcare
JustWait wrote:
In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:50:40 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:06:36 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:42:42 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:57:40 -0400, NotNow wrote: John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:02 -0400, NotNow wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:44:09 -0400, NotNow wrote: So recent history has no bearing on what's happening today? Never said that. But the history that counts starts today. Cool! Guess that means I don't have to pay my car payment because I didn't buy the car today? Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance. Yes, Obama is. One must wonder why he is still there if so many liberals think Iraq was a bad idea. -- Maybe because he is doing what HE thinks is right, as opposed to doing what Rush thinks is right. I believe Rush thought Iraq was a good idea. I guess he and BO are thinking alike on this issue. As long as we all understand whose war it is now. -- John H Do you think it would be easier to withdraw from a war that someone started for some unknown reason, or to have not started it in the first place? Are you of the mindset that what happened in the past has no bearing on what happens now? Listen, fact is Obama ran on the promise that he had a plan to pull us out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Gitmo.. promised he would be transparent, reach across the isle... And that was just in one speech. So, really he didn't have a plan for any of these issues. And you all bought it. Remember, half the country didn't... You didn't answer my questions. Obama did, he said he had a plan, period. He didn't have a clue... You didn't answer my questions. Ok, here is your answer. I don't know. How's that. Of course I didn't get to be POTUS on the basis that I did... So now answer mine, did Obama lie, or was he clueless? Neither. He made a timing mistake. He didn't realize fully how much Bush ****ed things up. So your answer is "clueless". I can accept that. Again, putting words on my mouth. Not to worry, it happens a lot when a conservative has nothing but spin. liberal = bad conservative = good. Got it. Now I've got some elderly folks to kill off..... didn't realize=clueless Wake up, Loog. The guy has you mesmerized or ****ed off because you voted for him. I hope it's the latter, but it sounds more and more like the former. -- John H Neither. Unlike you, I can see both sides of an issue. So, we have answered all of your questions... Please tell me what Bush did that was good in your eyes, and tell me what is wrong with one of the bills put up by repubs on health care, since you said they were "opposite of everything they (dems) believe".. Thanks, I will check back tonight for the list... What is wrong with the bills is that they all keep health care costs where they are now, lining the pockets of their contributers. What did Bush do that I agree with? Well, when he finally sent General Honore to take control, that was a success. And he done a fine job ducking that shoe that was thrown at him. And I liked his pick in John Roberts. Obama now has the unemployment rate up to 9.7%. But, he's saved over twelve million jobs. What a guy. I'm surprised he's not patting himself on the back for that feat. Biden is... It's tough cleaning up the **** stains that Bush left. See, we actually look at the numbers. The economy didn't crash out till Pelosi and Reid (bought and paid for by Soros) sold us out to big oil and the banks and wall street by refusing to take the reigns, instead of 200+ investigations about weather Scooter Libby remembered the right date of a conversation... Of course it was the best way to win an election and after all, who really got hurt anyway? snerk Wait till you see what is going to happen to our security while the Congress goes after Cheney through our intelligence agencies, in a personal vendetta of hypocrisy... And we want to kill the elderly, don't forget..... I've never seen anyone but you say that, and it's pretty sick. You don't mention the babies, which *are* being killed by liberals. You and Scotty BOTH stated right here that Obama wants to show the elderly how to Euthanize themselves. Never, never said that at all. All I ever said and read carefully was: There are panels of unassociated people who would be available as "end of life panels" (Obama's words not mine), only difference is I called them "death" panels. I guess I can admit to not knowing that "end of life" and "death" are two totally different concepts... But I never said anything about euthanasia, never, not once. Perhaps you missed when John said this about Obama. Notice, if you will the "help elderly meet a timely death". What in hell does that sound like to you? Be a devout Christian, kill babies, help the elderly meet a 'timely' death, enlarge government as much as possible, allow the 15 million illegals in this country to fast track....... And you have agreed with him on this point, going as far as quoting some right wing lie where someone said that Obama's bill could put us on the road to forced euthanasia! I still didn't say it... Oh, so as long as you agree to OTHER people's lies, then it isn't a lie??? Never said I agreed either... You really need to seperate us from each other, we are not one collective, we don't all "look alike" to you do we? Are you saying you didn't agree with Johns post? I am... Okay, so now you are saying that Obama DOESN'T want to euthanize the elderly? |
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Those pesky facts again about healthcare
In article ,
says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:50:40 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:06:36 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:42:42 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:57:40 -0400, NotNow wrote: John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:02 -0400, NotNow wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:44:09 -0400, NotNow wrote: So recent history has no bearing on what's happening today? Never said that. But the history that counts starts today. Cool! Guess that means I don't have to pay my car payment because I didn't buy the car today? Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance. Yes, Obama is. One must wonder why he is still there if so many liberals think Iraq was a bad idea. -- Maybe because he is doing what HE thinks is right, as opposed to doing what Rush thinks is right. I believe Rush thought Iraq was a good idea. I guess he and BO are thinking alike on this issue. As long as we all understand whose war it is now. -- John H Do you think it would be easier to withdraw from a war that someone started for some unknown reason, or to have not started it in the first place? Are you of the mindset that what happened in the past has no bearing on what happens now? Listen, fact is Obama ran on the promise that he had a plan to pull us out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Gitmo.. promised he would be transparent, reach across the isle... And that was just in one speech. So, really he didn't have a plan for any of these issues. And you all bought it. Remember, half the country didn't... You didn't answer my questions. Obama did, he said he had a plan, period. He didn't have a clue... You didn't answer my questions. Ok, here is your answer. I don't know. How's that. Of course I didn't get to be POTUS on the basis that I did... So now answer mine, did Obama lie, or was he clueless? Neither. He made a timing mistake. He didn't realize fully how much Bush ****ed things up. So your answer is "clueless". I can accept that. Again, putting words on my mouth. Not to worry, it happens a lot when a conservative has nothing but spin. liberal = bad conservative = good. Got it. Now I've got some elderly folks to kill off..... didn't realize=clueless Wake up, Loog. The guy has you mesmerized or ****ed off because you voted for him. I hope it's the latter, but it sounds more and more like the former. -- John H Neither. Unlike you, I can see both sides of an issue. So, we have answered all of your questions... Please tell me what Bush did that was good in your eyes, and tell me what is wrong with one of the bills put up by repubs on health care, since you said they were "opposite of everything they (dems) believe".. Thanks, I will check back tonight for the list... What is wrong with the bills is that they all keep health care costs where they are now, lining the pockets of their contributers. What did Bush do that I agree with? Well, when he finally sent General Honore to take control, that was a success. And he done a fine job ducking that shoe that was thrown at him. And I liked his pick in John Roberts. Obama now has the unemployment rate up to 9.7%. But, he's saved over twelve million jobs. What a guy. I'm surprised he's not patting himself on the back for that feat. Biden is... It's tough cleaning up the **** stains that Bush left. See, we actually look at the numbers. The economy didn't crash out till Pelosi and Reid (bought and paid for by Soros) sold us out to big oil and the banks and wall street by refusing to take the reigns, instead of 200+ investigations about weather Scooter Libby remembered the right date of a conversation... Of course it was the best way to win an election and after all, who really got hurt anyway? snerk Wait till you see what is going to happen to our security while the Congress goes after Cheney through our intelligence agencies, in a personal vendetta of hypocrisy... And we want to kill the elderly, don't forget..... I've never seen anyone but you say that, and it's pretty sick. You don't mention the babies, which *are* being killed by liberals. You and Scotty BOTH stated right here that Obama wants to show the elderly how to Euthanize themselves. Never, never said that at all. All I ever said and read carefully was: There are panels of unassociated people who would be available as "end of life panels" (Obama's words not mine), only difference is I called them "death" panels. I guess I can admit to not knowing that "end of life" and "death" are two totally different concepts... But I never said anything about euthanasia, never, not once. Perhaps you missed when John said this about Obama. Notice, if you will the "help elderly meet a timely death". What in hell does that sound like to you? Be a devout Christian, kill babies, help the elderly meet a 'timely' death, enlarge government as much as possible, allow the 15 million illegals in this country to fast track....... And you have agreed with him on this point, going as far as quoting some right wing lie where someone said that Obama's bill could put us on the road to forced euthanasia! I still didn't say it... Oh, so as long as you agree to OTHER people's lies, then it isn't a lie??? Never said I agreed either... You really need to seperate us from each other, we are not one collective, we don't all "look alike" to you do we? Are you saying you didn't agree with Johns post? I am... Okay, so now you are saying that Obama DOESN'T want to euthanize the elderly? Absolutely, I don't think Obama is going to kill anybody... He is no Hillary Clinton you know... -- Wafa free since 2009 |
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