On Aug 26, 2:27Â*pm, Frogwatch wrote:


Jack Kennedy CAUSED the Cuban missile crisis by putting Jupiter
missiles in Turkey less than 100 miles from the Soviet Union.

really? from 'wikipedia'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PGM-19_Jupiter

In October of 1959, the location of the third and final Jupiter MRBM
squadron was settled when the Government to Government agreement was
signed with Turkey. United States and Turkey concluded an agreement to
deploy one Jupiter squadron on NATO's southern flank.

One squadron totaling 15 missiles was deployed at 5 sites near Ä°zmir,
Turkey from 1961 to 1963. They were operated by U.S. Air Force
personnel.


so the missiles were PLANNED to be deployed BEFORE kennedy took
office.

moreover, given the massive amount of soviet hardware in europe, the
only way to tactically balance forces was by the use of nuclear (for
you right wingers, that's 'nukular') missiles


And the Bay of Pigs, what kind of moron would agree to such a thing
AND then not support it once it was going? Â*Pure Kennedy cowardice.-

actually it was stupidity. the cuban missile crisis showed that
kennedy had the cojones to go toe to toe with the russkies.

wf3h wrote:
On Aug 26, 2:27 pm, Frogwatch wrote:

Jack Kennedy CAUSED the Cuban missile crisis by putting Jupiter
missiles in Turkey less than 100 miles from the Soviet Union.

really? from 'wikipedia'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PGM-19_Jupiter

In October of 1959, the location of the third and final Jupiter MRBM
squadron was settled when the Government to Government agreement was
signed with Turkey. United States and Turkey concluded an agreement to
deploy one Jupiter squadron on NATO's southern flank.

One squadron totaling 15 missiles was deployed at 5 sites near Ä°zmir,
Turkey from 1961 to 1963. They were operated by U.S. Air Force
personnel.


so the missiles were PLANNED to be deployed BEFORE kennedy took
office.

moreover, given the massive amount of soviet hardware in europe, the
only way to tactically balance forces was by the use of nuclear (for
you right wingers, that's 'nukular') missiles


And the Bay of Pigs, what kind of moron would agree to such a thing
AND then not support it once it was going? Pure Kennedy cowardice.-

actually it was stupidity. the cuban missile crisis showed that
kennedy had the cojones to go toe to toe with the russkies.


Do you understand the difference between planning and implementation?

On Aug 27, 7:59*am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
use of nuclear (for
you right wingers, that's 'nukular') missiles

And the Bay of Pigs, what kind of moron would agree to such a thing
AND then not support it once it was going? *Pure Kennedy cowardice.-

actually it was stupidity. the cuban missile crisis showed that
kennedy had the cojones to go toe to toe with the russkies.

Do you understand the difference between planning and implementation?-

do you understand the concept of national credibility?

wf3h wrote:
On Aug 27, 7:59 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
use of nuclear (for
you right wingers, that's 'nukular') missiles
And the Bay of Pigs, what kind of moron would agree to such a thing
AND then not support it once it was going? Pure Kennedy cowardice.-
actually it was stupidity. the cuban missile crisis showed that
kennedy had the cojones to go toe to toe with the russkies.
Do you understand the difference between planning and implementation?-

do you understand the concept of national credibility?

National Credibility. Is that when you put a guy in jail for life for
murdering a couple of hundred people on an airplane but then let him out
on compassionate reasons because he has terminal cancer and is going to
die in three months?

On Aug 27, 4:01*pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 27, 7:59 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
use of nuclear (for
you right wingers, that's 'nukular') missiles
And the Bay of Pigs, what kind of moron would agree to such a thing
AND then not support it once it was going? *Pure Kennedy cowardice..-
actually it was stupidity. the cuban missile crisis showed that
kennedy had the cojones to go toe to toe with the russkies.
Do you understand the difference between planning and implementation?-

do you understand the concept of national credibility?

National Credibility. Is that when you put a guy in jail for life for
murdering a couple of hundred people on an airplane but then let him out
on compassionate reasons because he has terminal cancer and is going to
die in three months?

only robert ballard can answer that.

BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 27, 7:59 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
use of nuclear (for
you right wingers, that's 'nukular') missiles
And the Bay of Pigs, what kind of moron would agree to such a thing
AND then not support it once it was going? Pure Kennedy cowardice.-
actually it was stupidity. the cuban missile crisis showed that
kennedy had the cojones to go toe to toe with the russkies.
Do you understand the difference between planning and implementation?-

do you understand the concept of national credibility?

National Credibility. Is that when you put a guy in jail for life for
murdering a couple of hundred people on an airplane but then let him out
on compassionate reasons because he has terminal cancer and is going to
die in three months?

When did the U.S. do that?

NotNow wrote:
BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 27, 7:59 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
use of nuclear (for
you right wingers, that's 'nukular') missiles
And the Bay of Pigs, what kind of moron would agree to such a thing
AND then not support it once it was going? Pure Kennedy cowardice.-
actually it was stupidity. the cuban missile crisis showed that
kennedy had the cojones to go toe to toe with the russkies.
Do you understand the difference between planning and implementation?-

do you understand the concept of national credibility?

National Credibility. Is that when you put a guy in jail for life for
murdering a couple of hundred people on an airplane but then let him
out on compassionate reasons because he has terminal cancer and is
going to die in three months?

When did the U.S. do that?

I thought the subject was national credibility, not US national
credibility.

On Aug 30, 10:06*am, BAR wrote:
NotNow wrote:
BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 27, 7:59 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
use of nuclear (for
you right wingers, that's 'nukular') missiles
And the Bay of Pigs, what kind of moron would agree to such a thing
AND then not support it once it was going? *Pure Kennedy cowardice.-
actually it was stupidity. the cuban missile crisis showed that
kennedy had the cojones to go toe to toe with the russkies.
Do you understand the difference between planning and implementation?-

do you understand the concept of national credibility?

National Credibility. Is that when you put a guy in jail for life for
murdering a couple of hundred people on an airplane but then let him
out on compassionate reasons because he has terminal cancer and is
going to die in three months?

When did the U.S. do that?

I thought the subject was national credibility, not US national
credibility.

why? did scotland put missiles in turkey in the 50's?