What the hell are we doing here...
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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Supposedly to put the nail in the coffin of Al Qaeda, and make sure
they don't come back. Nation building started by the Bush crew, and
now supported by Dem and Rep alike.
They've all fallen into the "protect the women" and
"one-person-one-vote" bandwagon too.
Personally, I would get out and let the savages find their own path to
Allah. If they give us trouble later, nuke 'em.
But I'm not a Dem or Rep.

--Vic


Ah... the humanitarian approach! LOL

--
Nom=de=Plume

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"NotNow" wrote in message
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JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:06:24 -0400, Guzzistimo penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:31:29 -0400, Gene
wrote:
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|On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:03:19 -0400, Guzzistimo
wrote:
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|If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's
|Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin?
|
|http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/wo..._r=1&th&emc=th
|
|I think we are there because of this:
|
|http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english...ent_339861.htm
|
|Ah, the Bush Rationale. |
|After Inauguration Day, the Bush Rationale is no longer applicable.

Bush got us in there. We're there. We could have just left
(cut-and-run, some people would say) when Obama took office, but how
smart would that be?

You don't really have a point, do you?
But he indicated to his followers that he would get out... close Gitmo,
have open meetings, reach over the isle... pffffttttt.. The fact is, he
said he was gonna' do it. Half of the country admitted they knew he
wouldn't, the rest just missed the boat...

I didn't know his time was up.

The first two (he would get out [Iraq and Afghanistan] and close Gitmo)
were promised in the first hundred days, the second two [have open
meetings, reach over the isle] were promised during his whole
administration... His time was up on the first two a few months back, the
second, when he started having secret meetings and censoring information
about his Czars and nominees... Fact is, it was bull****, designed to get
him elected. He never meant it, just said it... Hey, could JPS be Oba....
uh, forget it...

Things change when you're handed what Bush handed him.

Bull****. He knew what was happening, or his advisors were incompetant.

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"NotNow" wrote in message
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JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 24, 8:03 pm, Guzzistimo wrote:
If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's
Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin?

hey idiot...

you guys are amazing.

uh...questions for you:


1. when did US troops enter afghanistan?
2. how long has obama been president

take your head out of your diaper...
Obama could have pulled the US troops out of Afghanistan by now. All
it takes is an order to Sec Def Gates.
You mean, he really didn't mean it when he was running for POTUS?? Oh
my, hope I still get my free car and oil;)

Please show me where Obama said he'd give you a free car and oil.
Another right wing fallacy.
Obama didn't say it.. It was a sarcastic remark based loosely on the
rantings of some of the Obama supporters during the runup to the
election... Geeze...

Well, with some of the lies the conservatives have told lately, I just
assumed that was another one that got believed.

Yeah right.. only lies from the right.
We are obviously out or Iraq, Gitmo is closed, we are out of
Afghanistan, dems are reaching across the isle, there is no end of life
panels, the check is in the mail, and I promise I will pull out...
Pffffttttt...


Um, Scotty, he's still on the job, and hasn't completed everything yet.

He has completed spending more money in 100 days than Bush did in 4 years.

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On Aug 25, 4:22*pm, H the K wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 4:07 pm, Mille GT Owner wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:30:14 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 25, 8:11 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 7:11 am, Guzzistimo wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:42:07 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:
"Guzzistimo" wrote in message
news:3ga695pdifipkd0su3h61vfl5gj6e909nk@4ax .com...
If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's
Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/wo....html?_r=1&th&....
--
John H
"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous
Perhaps it's to fix the mess that Bush neglected to fix?
Right-wing nut = loves Taliban
Here comes the Bush Rationale again.
What 'mess' is Obama trying to fix? That's the original question?
--
the mess that bush was unable to develop a strategy to build an
effective security apparatus in afghanistan.
And you believe that Obama is going to fix Afghanistan? Nobody has ever
fixed Afghanistan.-
sure they have.
you're just too dumb to realize it.
And you call others dumb and stupid?

--

no...no. you'll suffice. i believe you exceed all others.

I can't decide who is the dumbest poster he

Loogy
JustWait
Herring
Lu-ser

So many choices.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

an embarrassment of riches.

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"H the K" wrote in message
m...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 4:07 pm, Mille GT Owner wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:30:14 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:





On Aug 25, 8:11 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 7:11 am, Guzzistimo wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:42:07 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:
"Guzzistimo" wrote in message
...
If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's
Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/wo....html?_r=1&th&....
--
John H
"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous
Perhaps it's to fix the mess that Bush neglected to fix?
Right-wing nut = loves Taliban
Here comes the Bush Rationale again.
What 'mess' is Obama trying to fix? That's the original question?
--
the mess that bush was unable to develop a strategy to build an
effective security apparatus in afghanistan.
And you believe that Obama is going to fix Afghanistan? Nobody has
ever
fixed Afghanistan.-
sure they have.
you're just too dumb to realize it.
And you call others dumb and stupid?

--


no...no. you'll suffice. i believe you exceed all others.


I can't decide who is the dumbest poster he

Loogy
JustWait
Herring
Lu-ser
H the K

So many choices.

I'll vote for the last one.

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"Mille GT Owner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:41:51 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:03:19 -0400, Guzzistimo
wrote:

If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's
Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin?

What would it cost to buy all the opium? Have to be the bargain of the
century. The dope is financing the Taliban, reason enough to **** with
the trade,

Casady

If he stated our reason for being in Afghanistan was to stop the opium
trade, at least we would have a reason.

My next question would be, "Why us?" Why are we the power concerned
with the opium trade? Why are we not in Columbia stopping the cocaine
trade, or Mexico with the marijuana trade, or even California with the
marijuana trade?
--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous

Brcause there is too much money being made in the drug war by both sides.

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wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 2:32 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 8:12 am, BAR wrote:

this is called 'surrender' or 'appeasement'...whichever you prefer.
I thought it was following through on a campaign promise. Why are we
still in Iraq? Didn't Obama say he was going to get us out of Iraq too?
Why are we still in Iraq?-
he did not say he was going to 'get us out of iraq'. he said he was
going to get us out consistent with US policy objectives. and he is.
US troops are no longer involved in combat operations.
What are the US policy objectives in Iraq?

you seem not to know. you keep posting ridiculous assertions (e.g.
'obama said he's going to get out of afghanistan') without any
reference or context. it seems you have no idea what's going on and
aren't interested in finding out. your primary goal seem to be
immediate surrender and appeasement of the taliban.

I do not believe you have any idea why the US was in Iraq or Afghanistan
or why we are still in either country. Nor do I believe that you have
any idea why Obama has continued 90% of Bush's foreign policies.

you take pride in your ignorance or is it just a hobby?
You are too much fun to play with. I guess you could call it a sport.-

chuckle watching you roll around in your ignorance is kind of like
watching a 3 legged pig in a pen.

the amusement value alone is worth it.

When someone asks you a question you can't answer the question, why? Is
it because you do not have a grasp of the subject matter or is there
some other reason?

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wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 2:33 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:

The Taliban never conducted state sponsored terrorism. The Taliban was
used by OBL and AQ as a base of operations because Afghanistan is the
anus of the Earth.-
you say potatoes...i say po-tah-toes...
blah blah blah
You agree with me that the Taliban did not attach the USA.-

who are the taliban? and, no, i don't agree.

do you know what the 'USA' is?

It is not polite to answer a question with a question?

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:19:32 -0400, BAR wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 24, 8:03 pm, Guzzistimo wrote:
If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's
Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin?

hey idiot...

you guys are amazing.

uh...questions for you:


1. when did US troops enter afghanistan?
2. how long has obama been president

take your head out of your diaper...
Obama could have pulled the US troops out of Afghanistan by now. All it
takes is an order to Sec Def Gates.
You mean, he really didn't mean it when he was running for POTUS?? Oh
my, hope I still get my free car and oil;)
I practically got a free car yesterday. I now have a brand new Nissan
Versa and the $4,500 you all kicked in paid for nearly half of the
vehicle. I stroked a check for the rest. Just doing my part to help the
economy according to Congress and Obama's rules.

Congratulations!
Good to see you admit gov welfare is ok when it goes in your pocket.
Honesty is a virtue.

Didn't I thank everyone all ready? I figure it is my only way to get
back all of that Social Security I have paid in and will never see.

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NotNow wrote:
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:06:24 -0400, Guzzistimo penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:31:29 -0400, Gene
wrote:
|
|On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:03:19 -0400, Guzzistimo
wrote:
|
|If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's
|Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin?
|
|http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/wo..._r=1&th&emc=th

|
|I think we are there because of this:
|
|http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english...ent_339861.htm
|
|Ah, the Bush Rationale. |
|After Inauguration Day, the Bush Rationale is no longer applicable.

Bush got us in there. We're there. We could have just left
(cut-and-run, some people would say) when Obama took office, but how
smart would that be?

You don't really have a point, do you?

But he indicated to his followers that he would get out... close
Gitmo, have open meetings, reach over the isle... pffffttttt.. The
fact is, he said he was gonna' do it. Half of the country admitted
they knew he wouldn't, the rest just missed the boat...

I didn't know his time was up.

If you go by his polls he is in Carter territory.