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What the hell are we doing here...
On Aug 25, 8:11*am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 7:11 am, Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:42:07 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Guzzistimo" wrote in message ... If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/wo....html?_r=1&th&.... -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous Perhaps it's to fix the mess that Bush neglected to fix? Right-wing nut = loves Taliban Here comes the Bush Rationale again. What 'mess' is Obama trying to fix? That's the original question? -- the mess that bush was unable to develop a strategy to build an effective security apparatus in afghanistan. And you believe that Obama is going to fix Afghanistan? Nobody has ever fixed Afghanistan.- sure they have. you're just too dumb to realize it. |
What the hell are we doing here...
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:06:24 -0400, Guzzistimo penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:31:29 -0400, Gene wrote: | |On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:03:19 -0400, Guzzistimo wrote: | |If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's |Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? | |http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/wo..._r=1&th&emc=th | |I think we are there because of this: | |http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english...ent_339861.htm | |Ah, the Bush Rationale. | |After Inauguration Day, the Bush Rationale is no longer applicable. Bush got us in there. We're there. We could have just left (cut-and-run, some people would say) when Obama took office, but how smart would that be? You don't really have a point, do you? Yes, Gene, he does! Remember conservative = good, liberal = evil. That's the republican mantra!!! |
What the hell are we doing here...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 8:12 am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 24, 9:53 pm, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 24, 8:03 pm, Guzzistimo wrote: If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? hey idiot... you guys are amazing. uh...questions for you: 1. when did US troops enter afghanistan? 2. how long has obama been president take your head out of your diaper... Obama could have pulled the US troops out of Afghanistan by now. All it takes is an order to Sec Def Gates.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - this is called 'surrender' or 'appeasement'...whichever you prefer. I thought it was following through on a campaign promise. Why are we still in Iraq? Didn't Obama say he was going to get us out of Iraq too? Why are we still in Iraq?- he did not say he was going to 'get us out of iraq'. he said he was going to get us out consistent with US policy objectives. and he is. US troops are no longer involved in combat operations. What are the US policy objectives in Iraq? you take pride in your ignorance or is it just a hobby? You are too much fun to play with. I guess you could call it a sport. |
What the hell are we doing here...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 8:21 am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 7:08 am, Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:37:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 24, 8:03 pm, Guzzistimo wrote: If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? hey idiot... you guys are amazing. uh...questions for you: 1. when did US troops enter afghanistan? 2. how long has obama been president take your head out of your diaper... What difference does either question make? Obama has had plenty of time to pull out of Afghanistan, and Iraq for that matter. Why are we still in Afghanistan. What does Obama hope to get out of our involvement there? -- disrupting the ability of the taliban to conduct state sponsored terrorism. i realize that, to you folks in the 'neville chamberlain fan club', that's a horrible thought. but to those of us who were in NY after 9/11, it's kind of important The Taliban never conducted state sponsored terrorism. The Taliban was used by OBL and AQ as a base of operations because Afghanistan is the anus of the Earth.- you say potatoes...i say po-tah-toes... blah blah blah You agree with me that the Taliban did not attach the USA. |
What the hell are we doing here...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 8:15 am, BAR wrote: nom=de=plume wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... wf3h wrote: On Aug 24, 8:03 pm, Guzzistimo wrote: If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? hey idiot... you guys are amazing. uh...questions for you: 1. when did US troops enter afghanistan? 2. how long has obama been president take your head out of your diaper... Obama could have pulled the US troops out of Afghanistan by now. All it takes is an order to Sec Def Gates. Please explain why he should want to do that, given that the Taliban will come right back. The Taliban will always come back in some form or another. The Muslims do not look at their struggle as a one, two or ten year effort. It is a centuries effort. If it takes the Muslims 10 generations they will wait, if it takes 10 centuries they will wait. The Muslims are more patient than us.- first there's a difference between the 'taliban' and muslims. not all muslims are crazed psychopathic fanatics. Prove it. Islam is similar to communism in that it cannot be fully realized until all of the people of the Earth are subjugated to the rule of the collective. 2nd, there's no proof this is true. the 'muslims' have already started destroying the more fanatical elements in their midst, as recent events in the gaza strip, and in pakistan have shown. Ok, if that is what you want to believe. Sacrifice a few so that the rest can flourish. |
What the hell are we doing here...
On Aug 25, 2:32*pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 8:12 am, BAR wrote: this is called 'surrender' or 'appeasement'...whichever you prefer. I thought it was following through on a campaign promise. Why are we still in Iraq? Didn't Obama say he was going to get us out of Iraq too? Why are we still in Iraq?- he did not say he was going to 'get us out of iraq'. he said he was going to get us out consistent with US policy objectives. and he is. US troops are no longer involved in combat operations. What are the US policy objectives in Iraq? you seem not to know. you keep posting ridiculous assertions (e.g. 'obama said he's going to get out of afghanistan') without any reference or context. it seems you have no idea what's going on and aren't interested in finding out. your primary goal seem to be immediate surrender and appeasement of the taliban. you take pride in your ignorance or is it just a hobby? You are too much fun to play with. I guess you could call it a sport.- chuckle watching you roll around in your ignorance is kind of like watching a 3 legged pig in a pen. the amusement value alone is worth it. |
What the hell are we doing here...
On Aug 25, 2:33*pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote: The Taliban never conducted state sponsored terrorism. The Taliban was used by OBL and AQ as a base of operations because Afghanistan is the anus of the Earth.- you say potatoes...i say po-tah-toes... blah blah blah You agree with me that the Taliban did not attach the USA.- who are the taliban? and, no, i don't agree. do you know what the 'USA' is? |
What the hell are we doing here...
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says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... wf3h wrote: On Aug 24, 8:03 pm, Guzzistimo wrote: If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? hey idiot... you guys are amazing. uh...questions for you: 1. when did US troops enter afghanistan? 2. how long has obama been president take your head out of your diaper... Obama could have pulled the US troops out of Afghanistan by now. All it takes is an order to Sec Def Gates. You mean, he really didn't mean it when he was running for POTUS?? Oh my, hope I still get my free car and oil;) Please show me where Obama said he'd give you a free car and oil. Another right wing fallacy. Everything isn't a "right wing fallacy" just because you don't agree with it. See, that is the difference between the right and the left. I accept that you may have a different point of view. It doesn't mean your lying, it doesn't mean you are stupid, racist, or any of the other "left wing fallacies".. Just a different point of view... Either way, you should have figured out by now that I don't take much of this seriously here... I really don't have the time to argue and research all the crap that goes on. The kid is in the points race and working very hard. I am trying to keep up and get her and the machine where it needs to be... That is a full time job in itself... No but the lies the right has propagated lately are being gobbled up by the conservatives as truth no matter HOW outlandish they are. That's the whole point. And yet, you can't really point to any lies that are not considered truth by at least 80% of the people out there reading the bills and getting informed... Just because you call a "death panel" an "end of life panel" doesn't mean it's a lie.. It is what it is... Word games aside... -- Wafa free since 2009 |
What the hell are we doing here...
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:19:32 -0400, BAR wrote:
JustWait wrote: In article , says... wf3h wrote: On Aug 24, 8:03 pm, Guzzistimo wrote: If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? hey idiot... you guys are amazing. uh...questions for you: 1. when did US troops enter afghanistan? 2. how long has obama been president take your head out of your diaper... Obama could have pulled the US troops out of Afghanistan by now. All it takes is an order to Sec Def Gates. You mean, he really didn't mean it when he was running for POTUS?? Oh my, hope I still get my free car and oil;) I practically got a free car yesterday. I now have a brand new Nissan Versa and the $4,500 you all kicked in paid for nearly half of the vehicle. I stroked a check for the rest. Just doing my part to help the economy according to Congress and Obama's rules. Congratulations! Good to see you admit gov welfare is ok when it goes in your pocket. Honesty is a virtue. --Vic |
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