On Aug 20, 11:08*pm, "Lu Powell" wrote:
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:32:44 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
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On Aug 20, 8:11 pm, Old Guzzisti wrote:
Let's get this straight...

We're going to pass a health care plan

-written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it,

we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for
us

it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of
wallstreet.

What could possibly go wrong?

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we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd
screw us good

We've had a form of "free market capitalism" for scores of decades
now. *What did it do for us? *The Long Boom. *The strongest national
economy in the history of the modern world. *The most affluent
middle-class in modern history.

Please don't respond, though. *It's not that you will have any
reasonable refutation. *You won't. *It's that I've had my fill of
liberal naivete, misinformation, dissembling, hyperbole, propaganda,
and prevarication.

(I did have a very good friend once who was an ardent liberal; but,
he wasn't intellectually dishonest.)

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I'm no liberal by any stretch of the imagination. You just figuratively
killed the messenger by rejecting out of hand John Mackey's ideas because I
labeled him progressive.

since i'm a progressive, it's unlikely your explanation is correct,
isn't it? what i rejected was the CONTENT of his message...a fact you
find hard to comprehend.



How stupid can that be? Did you even read what he
had to say? His ideas are largely free-market and workable proposals. Don't
confuse you with the facts, your mind is made up, *just like the Dims in
Washington on Capitol Hill and at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

as opposed to the great success your friend at the same address had
for the last 8 years. you seem unaware of the fact the stock market
was at 14000 last year and is at 9000 how.

grow up

"Old Guzzisti" wrote in message
...
Let's get this straight...

We're going to pass a health care plan

-written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it,

-passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from
it,

-signed by a president that also hasn't read it and who smokes,

-with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his
taxes,

-overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and...

-financed by a country that's nearly broke.

What could possibly go wrong?

--
John H.



What do you care?
You already 'have yours'........as long as Uncle Sam is operational.

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:08:21 -0400, "Lu Powell"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:32:44 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 20, 8:11 pm, Old Guzzisti wrote:
Let's get this straight...

We're going to pass a health care plan

-written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it,

we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for
us

it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of
wallstreet.


What could possibly go wrong?

--

we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd
screw us good

We've had a form of "free market capitalism" for scores of decades
now. What did it do for us? The Long Boom. The strongest national
economy in the history of the modern world. The most affluent
middle-class in modern history.

Please don't respond, though. It's not that you will have any
reasonable refutation. You won't. It's that I've had my fill of
liberal naivete, misinformation, dissembling, hyperbole, propaganda,
and prevarication.

(I did have a very good friend once who was an ardent liberal; but,
he wasn't intellectually dishonest.)

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I'm no liberal by any stretch of the imagination. You just figuratively
killed the messenger by rejecting out of hand John Mackey's ideas because I
labeled him progressive. How stupid can that be? Did you even read what he
had to say? His ideas are largely free-market and workable proposals. Don't
confuse you with the facts, your mind is made up, just like the Dims in
Washington on Capitol Hill and at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

There's no sense in wasting your time and energy, Lu. He is nothing
but empty rhetoric. Most Progressive's lack compassion, a genuine
sense of history, and intellectual honesty. They not doubt like to
think better of themselves; but, then only a person that IS willing to
be intellectually honest will examine the flaws in their own
reasoning. That's why there is such a flurry of informal fallacies
coming from the left, and when that fact is spoken to, the discussion
simply goes somewhere else in true red herring fashion.

They do love the their Leviathon.

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. *The strongest national
economy in the history of the modern world. *The most affluent
middle-class in modern history.

which hasn't had a pay increase in 30 years.



"Finally, the Census Bureau approach ignores several sources of
income--benefits and transfers--that have grown significantly. When
all of these pieces are out together, the data suggest that median
Census income per person has risen by 50% over the past 30 years--not
18%."
[...]
"Admittedly, this is a touchy issue to write about at a time when
millions of our fellow citizens are out of work and facing dim
prospects for the future. But doesn't it seem as though good public
policy (on trade, immigration and transfers, to name a few) depends on
getting the facts right?"

http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/30/mid...ts-cooley.html

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. *The strongest national
economy in the history of the modern world. *The most affluent
middle-class in modern history.

which hasn't had a pay increase in 30 years.


Now, does the claim that the middle-class hasn't had a pay increase in
30 years, not that the phrase is itself meaningful in any
macroeconomic sense, refute the statement that the U.S. has had the
the most affluent middle-class in modern history, or is it an attempt
to dodge contesting that fact?

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On Aug 20, 9:08*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Aug 20, 9:47*pm, TopBassDog wrote:



On Aug 20, 7:32*pm, wf3h wrote:

On Aug 20, 8:11*pm, Old Guzzisti wrote:

Let's get this straight...

We're going to pass a health care plan

-written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it,

we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for
us

it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of
wallstreet.

What could possibly go wrong?

--

we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd
screw us good

La *Colombe Qui Fait Boum!?

ich weiss das nicht.

Es bedeutet " die Taube, die Knall geht! " und Sie können mir später
danken.

On Aug 21, 1:22*am, Tim wrote:
On Aug 20, 9:08*pm, wf3h wrote:



On Aug 20, 9:47*pm, TopBassDog wrote:

On Aug 20, 7:32*pm, wf3h wrote:

On Aug 20, 8:11*pm, Old Guzzisti wrote:

Let's get this straight...

We're going to pass a health care plan

-written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it,

we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for
us

it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of
wallstreet.

What could possibly go wrong?

--

we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd
screw us good

La *Colombe Qui Fait Boum!?

ich weiss das nicht.

Es bedeutet " die Taube, die Knall geht! " und Sie können mir später
danken.

At least I *Think* that's what it means..... German is kinda tough
for me these days.


My Grandpa taught me some German when I was a kid....but mostly cuss
words . I think mostly to give grandma shock and make my dad mad.

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:32:44 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 20, 8:11*pm, Old Guzzisti wrote:
Let's get this straight...

We're going to pass a health care plan

-written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it,

we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for
us

it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of
wallstreet.


What could possibly go wrong?

--

we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd
screw us good

You, wf3h, are an incessant whiner who wants to blame Republicans for
your stupidity in money matters.

--
John H.

"The truth is that unions are essentially parasitic organizations that
thrive only by draining and ultimately destroying the companies and
industries they control."

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:26:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Aug 21, 1:22*am, Tim wrote:
On Aug 20, 9:08*pm, wf3h wrote:



On Aug 20, 9:47*pm, TopBassDog wrote:

On Aug 20, 7:32*pm, wf3h wrote:

On Aug 20, 8:11*pm, Old Guzzisti wrote:

Let's get this straight...

We're going to pass a health care plan

-written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it,

we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for
us

it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of
wallstreet.

What could possibly go wrong?

--

we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd
screw us good

La *Colombe Qui Fait Boum!?

ich weiss das nicht.

Es bedeutet " die Taube, die Knall geht! " und Sie können mir später
danken.

At least I *Think* that's what it means..... German is kinda tough
for me these days.


My Grandpa taught me some German when I was a kid....but mostly cuss
words . I think mostly to give grandma shock and make my dad mad.

****It meant " the pigeon, which goes to bang! " and you can thank me
later.**** According to my translator, that's what you said.

But 'Colombe' should be 'dove', if I read Google correctly.

Wow, a French and German lesson in the same day!


--
John H.

"The truth is that unions are essentially parasitic organizations that
thrive only by draining and ultimately destroying the companies and
industries they control."

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:23:14 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Old Guzzisti" wrote in message
.. .
Let's get this straight...

We're going to pass a health care plan

-written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it,

-passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from
it,

-signed by a president that also hasn't read it and who smokes,

-with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his
taxes,

-overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and...

-financed by a country that's nearly broke.

What could possibly go wrong?

--
John H.



What do you care?
You already 'have yours'........as long as Uncle Sam is operational.


Just think, Donnie, if you'd applied yourself instead of waiting for
handouts, you'd be in decent shape too.

Now, just sit back and whine like 'wf2wh' or whatever.
--
John H.

"The truth is that unions are essentially parasitic organizations that
thrive only by draining and ultimately destroying the companies and
industries they control."