On Aug 19, 9:04 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:20:02 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 19, 6:07 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:34:51 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

well let's see...did he suspend habeas corpus? nope. bush did.

When was that? You have said it several times.

why not read the controversy about his AG, gonzalez who wrote a memo
saying it was legal for the president to suspend habeas corpus

Did they actually do it?

ah. so when you think obama TRIES to destroy the constitution you get
paranoid

but when it's proven the GOP actually DID try...well, that's OK.

uh huh. i think i see where you're coming from. the far right, you
think, should have a monopoly on power.



try reading up on jose padilla. oh. you right wingers dont pay
attention if americans are tortured by right wing american presidents
'cuz that's done in the name of 'national security'.

uh huh.

You will have to talk to the 2d US district court of appeals on that
one.

you mean after 4 years of solitary, no access to a lawyer, and being
driven insane, an american citizen was finally given access to the
courts IN SPITE of what bush tried to do

you're proving my case. thanks.

did he extend unemployment benefits that the GOP wanted to cut off?
yep.

Every president since Eisenhower has extended unemployment during a
recession

funny that the GOP opposed it on 'moral hazard' theory grounds,
thinking the middle class is too lazy to work.

But Bush did extend unemployment during his recession

bush caused it. the least he could do was give the middle class a
pittance. and it was a democratic congress that extended the benefits
over his objections.




did he start to re-impose banking regulations that the GOP gutted?
yep.

Read the legislation, there were plenty of democrats involved with
this deregulation.
read the legislation. it was written by phil gramm, a texas
republican, and his wife, a sr. VP at enron. and we know how the GOP
loved enron. another chance to fleece the middle class.

Look at the votes on Gramm-Leach-Bliley.
155 house democrats and 38 democratic senators voted for it
Bill Clinton signed it into law

yep because they got stampeded...just like you have...by the myth of
the 'free market'. even after the biggest collapse in US history you
still thump your chest and tell us how the markets need to be
deregulated.

why not just send ALL of your money to the rich?



did he fire the general bush had running the afghan war? yep.

How many generals have there been in the 18 years of the crusade?
Clinton and Bush fired some too

exactly my point. bush fired the generals, like shinseki, who would
have won the wars, because he listened, like the puppet he was, to
rumsfeld

There is NO WINNING this cluster****

but you're losing it.