Americans working much harder – for less pay
 

On Aug 11, 9:12*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Aug 11, 9:07*pm, jps wrote:



Feel like you’re working a lot harder these days, putting in longer
hours for the same pay — or even less? The latest round of government
data on worker productivity indicates that you probably are.

The Labor Department said Tuesday that the American work force
produced, at an annual rate, 6.4 percent more of the goods they made
and services they provided in the second quarter of this year compared
to a year ago. At the same time, “unit labor costs” — the amount
employers paid for all that extra work — fell by 5.8 percent. The jump
in productivity was higher than expected; the cut in labor costs more
than double expectations.

That is, despite the deep job cuts of the past year, workers who
remain on the payroll are filling in and making up the work that had
been done by their departed colleagues. In some cases, that extra work
came with a smaller paycheck.

Full story here...http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32374533...n_the_economy/

somebody has to take care of the rich. god knows they've suffered,
what with all the wall street problems.

we middle class folks will muddle through but our first obligation,
before family, before self, before anything...is to care for the rich

Be glad there's rich people, otherwise you couldn't afford that boat
you just bought ,

Very first Lincoln Mrk VII LSC I bought was in '93 from an eye
surgeon. He had depreciated it out. it had 85,000 mi on it, all
available options- sun roof. Beautiful!

Still had the original window price sheet in the glove box of
$36,852.00 we got it for $6500.00! I told the wife, I was thankful
for "rich people" who like to throw stuff away......

Americans working much harder – for less pay
 

On Aug 12, 7:10*am, Tim wrote:
On Aug 11, 9:12*pm, wf3h wrote:





On Aug 11, 9:07*pm, jps wrote:

Feel like you’re working a lot harder these days, putting in longer
hours for the same pay — or even less? The latest round of government
data on worker productivity indicates that you probably are.

The Labor Department said Tuesday that the American work force
produced, at an annual rate, 6.4 percent more of the goods they made
and services they provided in the second quarter of this year compared
to a year ago. At the same time, “unit labor costs” — the amount
employers paid for all that extra work — fell by 5.8 percent. The jump
in productivity was higher than expected; the cut in labor costs more
than double expectations.

That is, despite the deep job cuts of the past year, workers who
remain on the payroll are filling in and making up the work that had
been done by their departed colleagues. In some cases, that extra work
came with a smaller paycheck.

Full story here...http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32374533...n_the_economy/

somebody has to take care of the rich. god knows they've suffered,
what with all the wall street problems.

we middle class folks will muddle through but our first obligation,
before family, before self, before anything...is to care for the rich

Be glad there's rich people, otherwise you couldn't afford that boat
you just bought ,

yeah that's what they tell us, isn't it? and they deserve to be rich,
regardless of what they do, don't they? they trash the economic
system; we pay for it. they trash their companies; we pay for it. no
matter what they do, we should grovel before them and thank them for
being rich, no matter what it costs us.

and we should be thankful there are people like you to remind us what
a privilege it is to serve rich people, no matter what they do. serfs
are always needed to carry the slop buckets and they should be glad
for the work

you kill me, you know that?

Americans working much harder – for less pay
 

wf3h wrote:
On Aug 12, 7:10 am, Tim wrote:
On Aug 11, 9:12 pm, wf3h wrote:





On Aug 11, 9:07 pm, jps wrote:
Feel like you’re working a lot harder these days, putting in longer
hours for the same pay — or even less? The latest round of government
data on worker productivity indicates that you probably are.
The Labor Department said Tuesday that the American work force
produced, at an annual rate, 6.4 percent more of the goods they made
and services they provided in the second quarter of this year compared
to a year ago. At the same time, “unit labor costs” — the amount
employers paid for all that extra work — fell by 5.8 percent. The jump
in productivity was higher than expected; the cut in labor costs more
than double expectations.
That is, despite the deep job cuts of the past year, workers who
remain on the payroll are filling in and making up the work that had
been done by their departed colleagues. In some cases, that extra work
came with a smaller paycheck.
Full story here...http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32374533...n_the_economy/
somebody has to take care of the rich. god knows they've suffered,
what with all the wall street problems.
we middle class folks will muddle through but our first obligation,
before family, before self, before anything...is to care for the rich
Be glad there's rich people, otherwise you couldn't afford that boat
you just bought ,

yeah that's what they tell us, isn't it? and they deserve to be rich,
regardless of what they do, don't they? they trash the economic
system; we pay for it. they trash their companies; we pay for it. no
matter what they do, we should grovel before them and thank them for
being rich, no matter what it costs us.

and we should be thankful there are people like you to remind us what
a privilege it is to serve rich people, no matter what they do. serfs
are always needed to carry the slop buckets and they should be glad
for the work

you kill me, you know that?


You never know when a crumb might fall from the table of the rich and
you'll get to drive it.

Americans working much harder – for less pay
 

On Aug 12, 7:36*am, wf3h wrote:
On Aug 12, 7:10*am, Tim wrote:



On Aug 11, 9:12*pm, wf3h wrote:

On Aug 11, 9:07*pm, jps wrote:

Feel like you’re working a lot harder these days, putting in longer
hours for the same pay — or even less? The latest round of government
data on worker productivity indicates that you probably are.

The Labor Department said Tuesday that the American work force
produced, at an annual rate, 6.4 percent more of the goods they made
and services they provided in the second quarter of this year compared
to a year ago. At the same time, “unit labor costs” — the amount
employers paid for all that extra work — fell by 5.8 percent. The jump
in productivity was higher than expected; the cut in labor costs more
than double expectations.

That is, despite the deep job cuts of the past year, workers who
remain on the payroll are filling in and making up the work that had
been done by their departed colleagues. In some cases, that extra work
came with a smaller paycheck.

Full story here...http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32374533...n_the_economy/

somebody has to take care of the rich. god knows they've suffered,
what with all the wall street problems.

we middle class folks will muddle through but our first obligation,
before family, before self, before anything...is to care for the rich

Be glad there's rich people, otherwise you couldn't afford that boat
you just bought ,

yeah that's what they tell us, isn't it? and they deserve to be rich,
regardless of what they do, don't they? they trash the economic
system; we pay for it. they trash their companies; we pay for it. no
matter what they do, we should grovel before them and thank them for
being rich, no matter what it costs us.

and we should be thankful there are people like you to remind us what
a privilege it is to serve rich people, no matter what they do. serfs
are always needed to carry the slop buckets and they should be glad
for the work

you kill me, you know that?

I'm not saying they deserve what they have or haven't got. But they do
have it.

I have some very wealthy friends and I don't feel like they owe me
anything.

If you feel like a serf then that's your problem or privilege.

and no, I wouldn't kill you.

Americans working much harder – for less pay
 

On Aug 12, 7:39*am, H the K wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 12, 7:10 am, Tim wrote:
On Aug 11, 9:12 pm, wf3h wrote:

On Aug 11, 9:07 pm, jps wrote:
Feel like you’re working a lot harder these days, putting in longer
hours for the same pay — or even less? The latest round of government
data on worker productivity indicates that you probably are.
The Labor Department said Tuesday that the American work force
produced, at an annual rate, 6.4 percent more of the goods they made
and services they provided in the second quarter of this year compared
to a year ago. At the same time, “unit labor costs” — the amount
employers paid for all that extra work — fell by 5.8 percent. The jump
in productivity was higher than expected; the cut in labor costs more
than double expectations.
That is, despite the deep job cuts of the past year, workers who
remain on the payroll are filling in and making up the work that had
been done by their departed colleagues. In some cases, that extra work
came with a smaller paycheck.
Full story here...http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32374533...n_the_economy/
somebody has to take care of the rich. god knows they've suffered,
what with all the wall street problems.
we middle class folks will muddle through but our first obligation,
before family, before self, before anything...is to care for the rich
Be glad there's rich people, otherwise you couldn't afford that boat
you just bought ,

yeah that's what they tell us, isn't it? and they deserve to be rich,
regardless of what they do, don't they? they trash the economic
system; we pay for it. they trash their companies; we pay for it. no
matter what they do, we should grovel before them and thank them for
being rich, no matter what it costs us.

and we should be thankful there are people like you to remind us what
a privilege it is to serve rich people, no matter what they do. serfs
are always needed to carry the slop buckets and they should be glad
for the work

you kill me, you know that?

You never know when a crumb might fall from the table of the rich and
you'll get to drive it.

And it was a very delicious crum indeed!

Americans working much harder – for less pay
 

wf3h wrote:
On Aug 12, 12:23 am, "CalifBill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...
On Aug 11, 9:10 pm, Keith Nuttle wrote:



jps wrote:
Feel like you’re working a lot harder these days, putting in longer
hours for the same pay — or even less? The latest round of government
data on worker productivity indicates that you probably are.
The Labor Department said Tuesday that the American work force
produced, at an annual rate, 6.4 percent more of the goods they made
and services they provided in the second quarter of this year compared
to a year ago. At the same time, “unit labor costs” — the amount
employers paid for all that extra work — fell by 5.8 percent. The jump
in productivity was higher than expected; the cut in labor costs more
than double expectations.
That is, despite the deep job cuts of the past year, workers who
remain on the payroll are filling in and making up the work that had
been done by their departed colleagues. In some cases, that extra work
came with a smaller paycheck.
Full story here...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32374533...n_the_economy/
On todays production lines the volume can be increased without a
corresponding increase in the effort of the individual. So a 6.4%
increase in production does not mean that the employee is being
overworked as implied.
what really happened is that so many people got laid off, productivity
increased because the output/worker increased.

Maybe the deadwood went first.

yeah, that's the cliche they want you to believe

You sound like you are a union wage and benefit negotiator.

Americans working much harder – for less pay
 

BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 12, 12:23 am, "CalifBill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...

On Aug 11, 9:10 pm, Keith Nuttle wrote:



jps wrote:
Feel like you’re working a lot harder these days, putting in longer
hours for the same pay — or even less? The latest round of government
data on worker productivity indicates that you probably are.
The Labor Department said Tuesday that the American work force
produced, at an annual rate, 6.4 percent more of the goods they made
and services they provided in the second quarter of this year compared
to a year ago. At the same time, “unit labor costs” — the amount
employers paid for all that extra work — fell by 5.8 percent. The jump
in productivity was higher than expected; the cut in labor costs more
than double expectations.
That is, despite the deep job cuts of the past year, workers who
remain on the payroll are filling in and making up the work that had
been done by their departed colleagues. In some cases, that extra work
came with a smaller paycheck.
Full story here...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32374533...n_the_economy/
On todays production lines the volume can be increased without a
corresponding increase in the effort of the individual. So a 6.4%
increase in production does not mean that the employee is being
overworked as implied.
what really happened is that so many people got laid off, productivity
increased because the output/worker increased.

Maybe the deadwood went first.

yeah, that's the cliche they want you to believe

You sound like you are a union wage and benefit negotiator.


*You* sound like (and are) an undereducated boor who couldn't make it in
college, joined the marines, were such a success at that you never got
an overseas billet, and have been compensating for it ever since.

Americans working much harder – for less pay
 

On Aug 12, 9:04*am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 12, 12:23 am, "CalifBill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message



Maybe the deadwood went first.

yeah, that's the cliche they want you to believe

You sound like you are a union wage and benefit negotiator.-

and you sound like a shill for leona helmsley.

Americans working much harder – for less pay
 

On Aug 12, 8:44*am, Tim wrote:
On Aug 12, 7:36*am, wf3h wrote:





On Aug 12, 7:10*am, Tim wrote:

On Aug 11, 9:12*pm, wf3h wrote:

On Aug 11, 9:07*pm, jps wrote:

Feel like you’re working a lot harder these days, putting in longer
hours for the same pay — or even less? The latest round of government
data on worker productivity indicates that you probably are.

The Labor Department said Tuesday that the American work force
produced, at an annual rate, 6.4 percent more of the goods they made
and services they provided in the second quarter of this year compared
to a year ago. At the same time, “unit labor costs” — the amount
employers paid for all that extra work — fell by 5.8 percent. The jump
in productivity was higher than expected; the cut in labor costs more
than double expectations.

That is, despite the deep job cuts of the past year, workers who
remain on the payroll are filling in and making up the work that had
been done by their departed colleagues. In some cases, that extra work
came with a smaller paycheck.

Full story here...http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32374533...n_the_economy/

somebody has to take care of the rich. god knows they've suffered,
what with all the wall street problems.

we middle class folks will muddle through but our first obligation,
before family, before self, before anything...is to care for the rich

Be glad there's rich people, otherwise you couldn't afford that boat
you just bought ,

yeah that's what they tell us, isn't it? and they deserve to be rich,
regardless of what they do, don't they? they trash the economic
system; we pay for it. they trash their companies; we pay for it. no
matter what they do, we should grovel before them and thank them for
being rich, no matter what it costs us.

and we should be thankful there are people like you to remind us what
a privilege it is to serve rich people, no matter what they do. serfs
are always needed to carry the slop buckets and they should be glad
for the work

you kill me, you know that?

I'm not saying they deserve what they have or haven't got. But they do
have it.

I have some very wealthy friends and I don't feel like they owe me
anything.

If you feel like a serf then that's your problem or privilege.


what i do feel is that the rich will take care of themselves. i don't
need to be reminded of how fortunate we are to have them around.

Americans working much harder – for less pay
 

On Aug 12, 8:51*am, wf3h wrote:
On Aug 12, 8:44*am, Tim wrote:



On Aug 12, 7:36*am, wf3h wrote:

On Aug 12, 7:10*am, Tim wrote:

On Aug 11, 9:12*pm, wf3h wrote:

On Aug 11, 9:07*pm, jps wrote:

Feel like you’re working a lot harder these days, putting in longer
hours for the same pay — or even less? The latest round of government
data on worker productivity indicates that you probably are.

The Labor Department said Tuesday that the American work force
produced, at an annual rate, 6.4 percent more of the goods they made
and services they provided in the second quarter of this year compared
to a year ago. At the same time, “unit labor costs” — the amount
employers paid for all that extra work — fell by 5.8 percent. The jump
in productivity was higher than expected; the cut in labor costs more
than double expectations.

That is, despite the deep job cuts of the past year, workers who
remain on the payroll are filling in and making up the work that had
been done by their departed colleagues. In some cases, that extra work
came with a smaller paycheck.

Full story here...http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32374533...n_the_economy/

somebody has to take care of the rich. god knows they've suffered,
what with all the wall street problems.

we middle class folks will muddle through but our first obligation,
before family, before self, before anything...is to care for the rich

Be glad there's rich people, otherwise you couldn't afford that boat
you just bought ,

yeah that's what they tell us, isn't it? and they deserve to be rich,
regardless of what they do, don't they? they trash the economic
system; we pay for it. they trash their companies; we pay for it. no
matter what they do, we should grovel before them and thank them for
being rich, no matter what it costs us.

and we should be thankful there are people like you to remind us what
a privilege it is to serve rich people, no matter what they do. serfs
are always needed to carry the slop buckets and they should be glad
for the work

you kill me, you know that?

I'm not saying they deserve what they have or haven't got. But they do
have it.

I have some very wealthy friends and I don't feel like they owe me
anything.

If you feel like a serf then that's your problem or privilege.

what i do feel is that the rich will take care of themselves. i don't
need to be reminded of how fortunate we are to have them around.

Sure they will and always have. And of course you don't need to be
reminded, especially when you're on you're boat that I'm speculating
you couldn't have afforded to buy when it was new.