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Feel like you’re working a lot harder these days, putting in longer
hours for the same pay — or even less? The latest round of government
data on worker productivity indicates that you probably are.

The Labor Department said Tuesday that the American work force
produced, at an annual rate, 6.4 percent more of the goods they made
and services they provided in the second quarter of this year compared
to a year ago. At the same time, “unit labor costs” — the amount
employers paid for all that extra work — fell by 5.8 percent. The jump
in productivity was higher than expected; the cut in labor costs more
than double expectations.

That is, despite the deep job cuts of the past year, workers who
remain on the payroll are filling in and making up the work that had
been done by their departed colleagues. In some cases, that extra work
came with a smaller paycheck.


Full story here...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32374533...n_the_economy/
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Feel like you’re working a lot harder these days, putting in longer
hours for the same pay — or even less? The latest round of government
data on worker productivity indicates that you probably are.

The Labor Department said Tuesday that the American work force
produced, at an annual rate, 6.4 percent more of the goods they made
and services they provided in the second quarter of this year compared
to a year ago. At the same time, “unit labor costs” — the amount
employers paid for all that extra work — fell by 5.8 percent. The jump
in productivity was higher than expected; the cut in labor costs more
than double expectations.

That is, despite the deep job cuts of the past year, workers who
remain on the payroll are filling in and making up the work that had
been done by their departed colleagues. In some cases, that extra work
came with a smaller paycheck.


Full story here...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32374533...n_the_economy/


On todays production lines the volume can be increased without a
corresponding increase in the effort of the individual. So a 6.4%
increase in production does not mean that the employee is being
overworked as implied.
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On Aug 11, 9:10*pm, Keith Nuttle wrote:
jps wrote:

Feel like you’re working a lot harder these days, putting in longer
hours for the same pay — or even less? The latest round of government
data on worker productivity indicates that you probably are.


The Labor Department said Tuesday that the American work force
produced, at an annual rate, 6.4 percent more of the goods they made
and services they provided in the second quarter of this year compared
to a year ago. At the same time, “unit labor costs” — the amount
employers paid for all that extra work — fell by 5.8 percent. The jump
in productivity was higher than expected; the cut in labor costs more
than double expectations.


That is, despite the deep job cuts of the past year, workers who
remain on the payroll are filling in and making up the work that had
been done by their departed colleagues. In some cases, that extra work
came with a smaller paycheck.


Full story here...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32374533...n_the_economy/


On todays production lines the volume can be increased without a
corresponding increase in the effort of the individual. *So a 6.4%
increase in production does not mean that the employee is being
overworked as implied.


what really happened is that so many people got laid off, productivity
increased because the output/worker increased.
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On Aug 11, 9:10 pm, Keith Nuttle wrote:
jps wrote:

Feel like you’re working a lot harder these days, putting in longer
hours for the same pay — or even less? The latest round of government
data on worker productivity indicates that you probably are.


The Labor Department said Tuesday that the American work force
produced, at an annual rate, 6.4 percent more of the goods they made
and services they provided in the second quarter of this year compared
to a year ago. At the same time, “unit labor costs” — the amount
employers paid for all that extra work — fell by 5.8 percent. The jump
in productivity was higher than expected; the cut in labor costs more
than double expectations.


That is, despite the deep job cuts of the past year, workers who
remain on the payroll are filling in and making up the work that had
been done by their departed colleagues. In some cases, that extra work
came with a smaller paycheck.


Full story here...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32374533...n_the_economy/


On todays production lines the volume can be increased without a
corresponding increase in the effort of the individual. So a 6.4%
increase in production does not mean that the employee is being
overworked as implied.


what really happened is that so many people got laid off, productivity
increased because the output/worker increased.

Maybe the deadwood went first.


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On Aug 12, 12:23*am, "CalifBill" wrote:
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On Aug 11, 9:10 pm, Keith Nuttle wrote:



jps wrote:


Feel like you’re working a lot harder these days, putting in longer
hours for the same pay — or even less? The latest round of government
data on worker productivity indicates that you probably are.


The Labor Department said Tuesday that the American work force
produced, at an annual rate, 6.4 percent more of the goods they made
and services they provided in the second quarter of this year compared
to a year ago. At the same time, “unit labor costs” — the amount
employers paid for all that extra work — fell by 5.8 percent. The jump
in productivity was higher than expected; the cut in labor costs more
than double expectations.


That is, despite the deep job cuts of the past year, workers who
remain on the payroll are filling in and making up the work that had
been done by their departed colleagues. In some cases, that extra work
came with a smaller paycheck.


Full story here...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32374533...n_the_economy/


On todays production lines the volume can be increased without a
corresponding increase in the effort of the individual. So a 6.4%
increase in production does not mean that the employee is being
overworked as implied.


what really happened is that so many people got laid off, productivity
increased because the output/worker increased.

Maybe the deadwood went first.


yeah, that's the cliche they want you to believe


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On Aug 12, 12:23 am, "CalifBill" wrote:
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On Aug 11, 9:10 pm, Keith Nuttle wrote:



jps wrote:
Feel like you’re working a lot harder these days, putting in longer
hours for the same pay — or even less? The latest round of government
data on worker productivity indicates that you probably are.
The Labor Department said Tuesday that the American work force
produced, at an annual rate, 6.4 percent more of the goods they made
and services they provided in the second quarter of this year compared
to a year ago. At the same time, “unit labor costs” — the amount
employers paid for all that extra work — fell by 5.8 percent. The jump
in productivity was higher than expected; the cut in labor costs more
than double expectations.
That is, despite the deep job cuts of the past year, workers who
remain on the payroll are filling in and making up the work that had
been done by their departed colleagues. In some cases, that extra work
came with a smaller paycheck.
Full story here...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32374533...n_the_economy/
On todays production lines the volume can be increased without a
corresponding increase in the effort of the individual. So a 6.4%
increase in production does not mean that the employee is being
overworked as implied.

what really happened is that so many people got laid off, productivity
increased because the output/worker increased.

Maybe the deadwood went first.


yeah, that's the cliche they want you to believe


You sound like you are a union wage and benefit negotiator.
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 03:16:24 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
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Maybe the deadwood went first.


yeah, that's the cliche they want you to believe


Stuff happens.

My wife is the I.T. manager at a steel products company in the Chicago
'burbs. Managers in general have their 'enemies' and 'spies' list
with them at all times in their heads.

The president of the company went one step further and arranged to
install a completely illegal phone tap system.

One particular inside sales order taker was pulling down an unusually
high salary for someone in her position, on recommendations from an
out of state VP of Sales. Also a general whiner-and-complainer...

When the tap was moved to her line (5 taps total), the VP's reason for
said recommendations became very clear.

SHE WAS PERFORMING PHONE SEX FOR THE VP!!!

Now, we shall call her Farrah Drippin' Faucet, as she turned out to be
a Couger that enjoyed trips up and down the Hershey Highway with the
maintenance manager, Georgie Boy.

Now Bob the VP was a very lucky boy indeed. Not only did he posess a
name that when he became confused or didn't have enough cofee yet and
spelled his name backwards it was OK, but he had a highly paid phone
prostitute to talk to on weekdays.

Guess who was in the first wave to go...
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On Aug 11, 9:10 pm, Keith Nuttle wrote:



jps wrote:

Feel like you’re working a lot harder these days, putting in longer
hours for the same pay — or even less? The latest round of government
data on worker productivity indicates that you probably are.

The Labor Department said Tuesday that the American work force
produced, at an annual rate, 6.4 percent more of the goods they made
and services they provided in the second quarter of this year compared
to a year ago. At the same time, “unit labor costs” — the amount
employers paid for all that extra work — fell by 5.8 percent. The jump
in productivity was higher than expected; the cut in labor costs more
than double expectations.

That is, despite the deep job cuts of the past year, workers who
remain on the payroll are filling in and making up the work that had
been done by their departed colleagues. In some cases, that extra work
came with a smaller paycheck.

Full story here...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32374533...n_the_economy/

On todays production lines the volume can be increased without a
corresponding increase in the effort of the individual. So a 6.4%
increase in production does not mean that the employee is being
overworked as implied.

what really happened is that so many people got laid off, productivity
increased because the output/worker increased.

Maybe the deadwood went first.


yeah, that's the cliche they want you to believe

From what I have seen in layoffs since the early 90s is they dump the
senior staff first and work their way down the seniority ladder until
they only have the new people who make the least amount of money.


Doesn't mean that they're also the least compentent but usually.
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jps wrote:

Feel like you’re working a lot harder these days, putting in longer
hours for the same pay — or even less? The latest round of government
data on worker productivity indicates that you probably are.

The Labor Department said Tuesday that the American work force
produced, at an annual rate, 6.4 percent more of the goods they made
and services they provided in the second quarter of this year compared
to a year ago. At the same time, “unit labor costs” — the amount
employers paid for all that extra work — fell by 5.8 percent. The jump
in productivity was higher than expected; the cut in labor costs more
than double expectations.

That is, despite the deep job cuts of the past year, workers who
remain on the payroll are filling in and making up the work that had
been done by their departed colleagues. In some cases, that extra work
came with a smaller paycheck.


Full story here...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32374533...n_the_economy/


On todays production lines the volume can be increased without a
corresponding increase in the effort of the individual. So a 6.4%
increase in production does not mean that the employee is being
overworked as implied.


Don't know if you're heard, we don't have production lines here
anymore. We're in the service business and military arms. The
productivity gains come from less workers doing more, working longer
hours for pay that doesn't keep up with the rising cost of living.
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jps wrote:

Feel like you're working a lot harder these days, putting in longer
hours for the same pay - or even less? The latest round of government
data on worker productivity indicates that you probably are.

The Labor Department said Tuesday that the American work force
produced, at an annual rate, 6.4 percent more of the goods they made
and services they provided in the second quarter of this year compared
to a year ago. At the same time, "unit labor costs" - the amount
employers paid for all that extra work - fell by 5.8 percent. The jump
in productivity was higher than expected; the cut in labor costs more
than double expectations.

That is, despite the deep job cuts of the past year, workers who
remain on the payroll are filling in and making up the work that had
been done by their departed colleagues. In some cases, that extra work
came with a smaller paycheck.


Full story here...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32374533...n_the_economy/


On todays production lines the volume can be increased without a
corresponding increase in the effort of the individual. So a 6.4%
increase in production does not mean that the employee is being
overworked as implied.


Don't know if you're heard, we don't have production lines here
anymore. We're in the service business and military arms. The
productivity gains come from less workers doing more, working longer
hours for pay that doesn't keep up with the rising cost of living.


No production, so we could not raise productivity. You kept all your
deadwood.




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