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H the K wrote:
wf3h wrote: On Aug 11, 8:13 pm, Frogwatch wrote: Bozoma's good buddy Bill Ayers is on the record saying he would like to kill 20 million Americans ann now that Obama is in office he going to get that chance thru ObamaCare, the plan inspired by Ayers. Not only does it call for direct govt access to your bank account to pay for health care, it may withhold care for certain persons whose lives will not benefit enough from such procedures, the benefit to be determined by a clique of Obama/Ayers pals. much of our healthcare dollars (something like 20-30%) are spent on people in the last few weeks of life. we need to understand when it does and doesn't pay to perform medical procedures on people when they are beyond help. anyone who's worked in a hospital has seen people being treated when they are beyond help OTOH we DO ration care today in the most inefficient manner possible. people who COULD benefit from care are denied it because they can't pay. that's rationing, folks. regardless of what the right wing thinks about it, that is RATIONING so regardless of what the right thinks, we DO ration care in this country. as always we take care of the rich first. the middle class and poor ensure that the rich get the best medical care in the world. Act NOW and there is MORE. Not only will you get crappy health care and the govt taking money directly out of your bank account, they will bill your estate after your death for the cost of procedures. WAIT, THERE'S MORE. the right bitches about 'socialized' medicine what we have right now is medical care run by bear, stearns; goldman sachs, bank of america and all the other institutions that have shown how much they value the american consumer by laying off so many of us. yes, i want socialized medicine. because private enterprise DOES NOT WORK in medical care. Right now, for most Americans, health insurance and your health care is determined solely by corporations who decide who to cover, who to not cover, who to drop from coverage, what to cover, and what to charge for that coverage. In many cases, those decisions are arbitrary and capricious. You are so full of crap Harry it is coming out of your mouth. Why do you focus on health insurance? Why don't you focus on health care delivery? What we have now is health insurance via corporatism. I wouldn't mind seeing the federal government getting involved in a direct fashion and closely regulating the health insurance industry, and also offering directly to Americans health insurance and ways to pay for it, be those individual or collective (taxation) methods. Demonize the evil corporations! Don't you get tired of spewing that line? It is utter stupidity to depend upon the vagaries of a corporation for something as important as health care insurance. Forgo health insurance and go with HSA's and pay for your health care with your own money. I've always gotten a kick out of the fools here and elsewhere who think that everyone has access to health care because they can go to an emergency room. What you get there if you don't have insurance is...short-changed. All you have to do is pay for the services you receive and you will get all of the health care you want. |
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