JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya
failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama
admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster
had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and
Castro lost.
zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes
in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law
is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some
of us, constitutional principles still have meaning.
To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed
the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras
appointed the new president under the Courts supervision.

As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is
trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to
their national health care plan.

Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one
was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron
stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill".
What is he smoking...


Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...this-year.aspx

On Aug 11, 11:16*am, NotNow wrote:
JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya
failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. *The Obama
admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster
had to back down. *Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and
Castro lost.
zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes
in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law
is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some
of us, constitutional principles still have meaning.
To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed
the sitting president for illegal activities. *The Congress of Honduras
appointed the new president under the Courts supervision.

As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is
trivialized or ignored. *They still think there is no opposition to
their national health care plan.

Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one
was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron
stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill".
What is he smoking...

Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...hcare-reform-t...

I have read the Honduran constitution and it specifically required the
military to act to remove the Pres, not the police. Zelaya was not
exiled, he was simply told that if he came back he would be arrested
for his illegal actions. He can go back whenever he wants but he will
be arrested as REQUIRED by the constitution.
The reality is that Obama DOES NOT support constitutional law. Zelaya
attempted to mount a coup and got caught. Thunder sis simply wrong
and does not even try to find out the real situation.

Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 11, 11:16 am, NotNow wrote:
JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya
failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama
admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster
had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and
Castro lost.
zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes
in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law
is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some
of us, constitutional principles still have meaning.
To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed
the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras
appointed the new president under the Courts supervision.
As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is
trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to
their national health care plan.
Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one
was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron
stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill".
What is he smoking...
Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...hcare-reform-t...

I have read the Honduran constitution and it specifically required the
military to act to remove the Pres, not the police. Zelaya was not
exiled, he was simply told that if he came back he would be arrested
for his illegal actions. He can go back whenever he wants but he will
be arrested as REQUIRED by the constitution.
The reality is that Obama DOES NOT support constitutional law. Zelaya
attempted to mount a coup and got caught. Thunder sis simply wrong
and does not even try to find out the real situation.

What does that have to do with the facts I posted about the fallacy that
most people in the U.S. don't want the government to help sort out the
screwed up healthcare system?

NotNow wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 11, 11:16 am, NotNow wrote:
JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya
failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama
admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas
ouster
had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and
Castro lost.
zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor,
believes
in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law
is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to
some
of us, constitutional principles still have meaning.
To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed
the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of
Honduras
appointed the new president under the Courts supervision.
As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is
trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to
their national health care plan.
Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only
one
was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron
stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill".
What is he smoking...
Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...hcare-reform-t...

I have read the Honduran constitution and it specifically required the
military to act to remove the Pres, not the police. Zelaya was not
exiled, he was simply told that if he came back he would be arrested
for his illegal actions. He can go back whenever he wants but he will
be arrested as REQUIRED by the constitution.
The reality is that Obama DOES NOT support constitutional law. Zelaya
attempted to mount a coup and got caught. Thunder sis simply wrong
and does not even try to find out the real situation.

What does that have to do with the facts I posted about the fallacy that
most people in the U.S. don't want the government to help sort out the
screwed up healthcare system?

What is the #1 problem with health care, not health insurance, in the USA?

In article ,
says...

NotNow wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 11, 11:16 am, NotNow wrote:
JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya
failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama
admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas
ouster
had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and
Castro lost.
zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor,
believes
in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law
is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to
some
of us, constitutional principles still have meaning.
To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed
the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of
Honduras
appointed the new president under the Courts supervision.
As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is
trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to
their national health care plan.
Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only
one
was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron
stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill".
What is he smoking...
Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...hcare-reform-t...

I have read the Honduran constitution and it specifically required the
military to act to remove the Pres, not the police. Zelaya was not
exiled, he was simply told that if he came back he would be arrested
for his illegal actions. He can go back whenever he wants but he will
be arrested as REQUIRED by the constitution.
The reality is that Obama DOES NOT support constitutional law. Zelaya
attempted to mount a coup and got caught. Thunder sis simply wrong
and does not even try to find out the real situation.

What does that have to do with the facts I posted about the fallacy that
most people in the U.S. don't want the government to help sort out the
screwed up healthcare system?

I think we are having a mis-communication here. Many if not most want to
"reform" the health care system, the polls are clear there. HOWEVER!!!
Most Americans both democrat and republican do not want the reforms
Obama is trying to push through, the polls are clear there too...

We need Tort reform, free (and fair) enterprise between states for
insurance companies. That would be a geat start, you can always add and
modify other issues as time goes on but start with those two provisions
and see how much difference that makes...


What is the #1 problem with health care, not health insurance, in the USA?



--
Wafa free since 2009

BAR wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 11, 11:16 am, NotNow wrote:
JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya
failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The
Obama
admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas
ouster
had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and
Castro lost.
zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor,
believes
in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of
law
is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to
some
of us, constitutional principles still have meaning.
To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras
removed
the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of
Honduras
appointed the new president under the Courts supervision.
As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is
trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to
their national health care plan.
Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and
only one
was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron
stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill".
What is he smoking...
Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...hcare-reform-t...


I have read the Honduran constitution and it specifically required the
military to act to remove the Pres, not the police. Zelaya was not
exiled, he was simply told that if he came back he would be arrested
for his illegal actions. He can go back whenever he wants but he will
be arrested as REQUIRED by the constitution.
The reality is that Obama DOES NOT support constitutional law. Zelaya
attempted to mount a coup and got caught. Thunder sis simply wrong
and does not even try to find out the real situation.

What does that have to do with the facts I posted about the fallacy
that most people in the U.S. don't want the government to help sort
out the screwed up healthcare system?

What is the #1 problem with health care, not health insurance, in the USA?

Again, what does this have to do with the fact that it is pure fallacy
that "most" people in the U.S. don't want the government to help sort
out the healthcare debacle?

The right is sending out SO much misinformation that it's kind of funny.
Last night, ABC news. They interview one of those screaming, yelling,
off the wall right wingers at a town hall meeting. Sir, what is your
main concern? "I don't want the government telling me I have to give up
my private insurance". Sir, does it say that in the bill? "Yes, if you
read page 16". Now, he was either coached to say that or he didn't read
it. Why? Because what it says is simply that the private insurance
companies have five years to comply with new government guidelines about
things like not being allowed to drop you because of certain conditions,
etc. Now, again, someone is either stupid or not being honest. Which?

In article ,
says...

JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya
failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama
admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster
had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and
Castro lost.
zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes
in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law
is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some
of us, constitutional principles still have meaning.
To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed
the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras
appointed the new president under the Courts supervision.

As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is
trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to
their national health care plan.

Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one
was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron
stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill".
What is he smoking...


Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...this-year.aspx

Yes, we want health care reform. Not a govt. takeover.. Think Tort
reform, and freedom of choice across state lines. Those two issues alone
would make a huge difference but the Democrats will not go against the
trial lawyers..

--
Wafa free since 2009

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya
failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama
admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster
had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and
Castro lost.
zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes
in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law
is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some
of us, constitutional principles still have meaning.
To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed
the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras
appointed the new president under the Courts supervision.

As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is
trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to
their national health care plan.
Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one
was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron
stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill".
What is he smoking...

Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...this-year.aspx

Yes, we want health care reform. Not a govt. takeover.. Think Tort
reform, and freedom of choice across state lines. Those two issues alone
would make a huge difference but the Democrats will not go against the
trial lawyers..


Did you LOOK at the poll? Notice the words "a USA Today/Gallup poll
finds 56% of Americans in favor and 33% opposed to Congress' passing
major healthcare reform legislation this year." If I'm not mistaken,
"congress" IS government!

NotNow wrote:
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya
failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama
admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas
ouster
had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and
Castro lost.
zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor,
believes
in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law
is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to
some
of us, constitutional principles still have meaning.
To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras
removed the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress
of Honduras appointed the new president under the Courts supervision.

As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is
trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to
their national health care plan.
Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only
one was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the
moron stood there and said something like "most Americans want this
bill". What is he smoking...

Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...this-year.aspx


Yes, we want health care reform. Not a govt. takeover.. Think Tort
reform, and freedom of choice across state lines. Those two issues
alone would make a huge difference but the Democrats will not go
against the trial lawyers..


Did you LOOK at the poll? Notice the words "a USA Today/Gallup poll
finds 56% of Americans in favor and 33% opposed to Congress' passing
major healthcare reform legislation this year." If I'm not mistaken,
"congress" IS government!

Did they bother to ask what form the "health care reform" should take? I
didn't think so.

BAR wrote:
NotNow wrote:
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya
failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The
Obama
admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas
ouster
had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and
Castro lost.
zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor,
believes
in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of
law
is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to
some
of us, constitutional principles still have meaning.
To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras
removed the sitting president for illegal activities. The
Congress of Honduras appointed the new president under the Courts
supervision.

As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is
trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition
to their national health care plan.
Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and
only one was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet
the moron stood there and said something like "most Americans want
this bill". What is he smoking...

Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...this-year.aspx


Yes, we want health care reform. Not a govt. takeover.. Think Tort
reform, and freedom of choice across state lines. Those two issues
alone would make a huge difference but the Democrats will not go
against the trial lawyers..


Did you LOOK at the poll? Notice the words "a USA Today/Gallup poll
finds 56% of Americans in favor and 33% opposed to Congress' passing
major healthcare reform legislation this year." If I'm not mistaken,
"congress" IS government!

Did they bother to ask what form the "health care reform" should take? I
didn't think so.

Not the point. Several on the right have said that the majority of
Americans don't want government to reform health care. That is not true.