I still cannot get used to the Tolman not having a tiller (rudder)
like a sailboat. You approach the dock and cut power to nearly nothing
and then have no ability to steer, frantically turn the wheel and then
brain engages "Oh yeah, this thing dont turn unless the prop is
turning".
My wife cannot deal with it at all after 25 yrs of sailing. It may be
aggravated by not having good low rpm control with my throttle.

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
I still cannot get used to the Tolman not having a tiller (rudder)
like a sailboat. You approach the dock and cut power to nearly nothing
and then have no ability to steer, frantically turn the wheel and then
brain engages "Oh yeah, this thing dont turn unless the prop is
turning".
My wife cannot deal with it at all after 25 yrs of sailing. It may be
aggravated by not having good low rpm control with my throttle.

I recommend tying half a dozen old tires on the boats side and ram her up
against the dock.

Don White wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
I still cannot get used to the Tolman not having a tiller (rudder)
like a sailboat. You approach the dock and cut power to nearly nothing
and then have no ability to steer, frantically turn the wheel and then
brain engages "Oh yeah, this thing dont turn unless the prop is
turning".
My wife cannot deal with it at all after 25 yrs of sailing. It may be
aggravated by not having good low rpm control with my throttle.

I recommend tying half a dozen old tires on the boats side and ram her up
against the dock.




Maybe he needs to invent the "attach a tiller," which would fit into a
tube on the back of the outboard...and allow the fastening of a rudder
and handle.

On Aug 9, 3:59*pm, H the K wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
....
I still cannot get used to the Tolman not having a tiller (rudder)
like a sailboat. You approach the dock and cut power to nearly nothing
and then have no ability to steer, frantically turn the wheel and then
brain engages "Oh yeah, this thing dont turn unless the prop is
turning".
My wife cannot deal with it at all after 25 yrs of sailing. *It may be
aggravated by not having good low rpm control with my throttle.

I recommend tying half a dozen old tires on the boats side and ram her up
against the dock.

Maybe he needs to invent the "attach a tiller," which would fit into a
tube on the back of the outboard...and allow the fastening of a rudder
and handle.

Thought about that Harry but it would not solve the problem of not
having control unless the motor is running.

Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 9, 3:59 pm, H the K wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
I still cannot get used to the Tolman not having a tiller (rudder)
like a sailboat. You approach the dock and cut power to nearly nothing
and then have no ability to steer, frantically turn the wheel and then
brain engages "Oh yeah, this thing dont turn unless the prop is
turning".
My wife cannot deal with it at all after 25 yrs of sailing. It may be
aggravated by not having good low rpm control with my throttle.
I recommend tying half a dozen old tires on the boats side and ram her up
against the dock.
Maybe he needs to invent the "attach a tiller," which would fit into a
tube on the back of the outboard...and allow the fastening of a rudder
and handle.

Thought about that Harry but it would not solve the problem of not
having control unless the motor is running.

So, keep the engine running. I have three large fenders attached that I
toss over the side when I dock. Usually, I've got the boat parallel to
the dock and pretty much motionless, as it is supposed to be, when I
dock, but not always. But at real slow docking speeds and with fenders
out...no harm is done.

Why is this such a big deal for you?

On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:17:35 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Thought about that Harry but it would not solve the problem of not
having control unless the motor is running.

With inboard power you can have your cake and eat it too. I've seen
a lot of older inboard utility skiffs with outboard rudders and a
tiller at the stern, very convenient for backing into tight places or
trolling.

The bigger I/Os like the Mercruiser Bravo 3 have enough fore and aft
surface area to create a significant rudder effect.

wrote:
On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:53:29 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:17:35 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Thought about that Harry but it would not solve the problem of not
having control unless the motor is running.
With inboard power you can have your cake and eat it too. I've seen
a lot of older inboard utility skiffs with outboard rudders and a
tiller at the stern, very convenient for backing into tight places or
trolling.

The bigger I/Os like the Mercruiser Bravo 3 have enough fore and aft
surface area to create a significant rudder effect.

You get some rudder effect from any outboard. We use it when we are
"sailing" in the pontoon (with the polytarp kite sail)


Now that would be a boating photo worth seeing...

H the K wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
I still cannot get used to the Tolman not having a tiller (rudder)
like a sailboat. You approach the dock and cut power to nearly nothing
and then have no ability to steer, frantically turn the wheel and then
brain engages "Oh yeah, this thing dont turn unless the prop is
turning".
My wife cannot deal with it at all after 25 yrs of sailing. It may be
aggravated by not having good low rpm control with my throttle.

I recommend tying half a dozen old tires on the boats side and ram her
up against the dock.



Maybe he needs to invent the "attach a tiller," which would fit into a
tube on the back of the outboard...and allow the fastening of a rudder
and handle.

Oh Krausie, you are just a wealth of nautical information and advice