Denounce your neighbors
 

Another John wrote:
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Lu Powell" wrote in message
...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting
his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes
toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are
actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who
fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When
the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to
buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they
work for.
Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/

The part that really galls me is the paragraph:

"There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there,
spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These
rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through
casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the
White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see
something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send
it to ."

"....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now
that we need you?


Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime?


Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site!

I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending.

Maybe you should just get back on the tit.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

He's not pretending, John, he's really that dumb!

Denounce your neighbors
 

Another John wrote:
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Another John" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Lu Powell" wrote in message
...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting
his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes
toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are
actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who
fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When
the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to
buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they
work for.
Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/

The part that really galls me is the paragraph:

"There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out
there,
spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These
rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through
casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at
the
White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see
something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy,
send
it to ."

"....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you
now
that we need you?


Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime?

Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site!

I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending.

Maybe you should just get back on the tit.
--
John H


This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit"....
Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams
"tit"...
even now in your twilight years.


Get Harry to tell you the difference.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

The simple version is that there is no difference. WAFA's retired union
pals collect a pension, too. That money is also paid by the people in
the form of higher prices for the "work" they do. The Democrats seem to
think there is all of this free cash floating out there.

Denounce your neighbors
 

Don White wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
...
Another John wrote:
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Another John" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Lu Powell" wrote in message
...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of
doubting
his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes
toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They
are
actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people
who
fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps.
When
the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time
to
buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think
they
work for.
Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger,
see:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/

The part that really galls me is the paragraph:

"There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out
there,
spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care.
These
rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or
through
casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here
at the
White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see
something on the web about health insurance reform that seems
fishy, send
it to ."

"....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are
you now
that we need you?


Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime?

Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site!

I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending.

Maybe you should just get back on the tit.
--
John H

This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit"....
Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams
"tit"...
even now in your twilight years.
Get Harry to tell you the difference.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.
Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant.
Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did!
Worked for a 'Crown Corp...which has its own pension plan.
BTW...mostly employee funded the last 20 years.
Try to keep up Kevin.

Not only that, but I'll bet you didn't help your country lose a way, as
herring did. :)

Nope... our job would have been to expose the JohnnyPrepHs of the world.
Let the public know what they were up to.



You keep proving that you are dumber than your last post.

Denounce your neighbors
 

H the K wrote:
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Another John wrote:
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Another John" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Lu Powell" wrote in message
...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...

The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of
doubting
his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes
toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in.
They are
actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people
who
fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps.
When
the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is
time to
buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think
they
work for.
Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger,
see:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/

The part that really galls me is the paragraph:

"There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform
out there,
spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care.
These
rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or
through
casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them
here at the
White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see
something on the web about health insurance reform that seems
fishy, send
it to ."

"....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where
are you now
that we need you?


Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime?

Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site!

I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending.

Maybe you should just get back on the tit.
--
John H

This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit"....
Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle
Sams "tit"...
even now in your twilight years.
Get Harry to tell you the difference.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.
Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant.
Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did!

Yeah, but I bet he has a garage full of really cool gadgets and tools....


Don has health insurance, and his health needs are being met.

You cannot say the same.

There aren't many Mexicans draining the cash out of their system.
Eliminate that and you have a lot more money to reduce health insurance
premiums for legal Americans.

Denounce your neighbors
 

thunder wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:51:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:


Everyone who is getting decent health care now has nothing to gain and
everything to lose. I think people are beginning to understand that.

I don't know your particular situation, but quite a few people *think*
they have excellent coverage, until they actually try to use it. It's a
fact that health care costs are the leading cause of bankruptcy in the
U.S., even when people have health care insurance.

Remember, most people's insurance is tied to their jobs. Get a long term
illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt.

Is there a state than will garnish wages for unpaid health care bills?

There are none that I know of.

Denounce your neighbors
 

H the K wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:32:34 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:21:59 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
I'm off to a discussion group at the moment - curiously enough, it's
about this very issue. Should be very interesting - lots of really
smart people on both sides of the aisle who respect each other's
opinions and can discuss and debate rationally.

Perhaps, you can give us a synopsis of the discussion.

It was interesting to say the least.

What I found most interesting is that nobody, other than myself and
two otehr people there - one a tax accountant, the other a local
doctor, had actually attempted to read the bill.

I left after the congressional staffer for my rep, the AARP
representative and two other people (I don't remember who they worked
for - Dodd or Lieberman) said that they couldn't answer specific
questions about the bill itself - they could only discuss "policy
issues" related to the health care bill.

I did manage to get a question in, but the answer was as stated above
- they would not and could not answer specific line item questions
about the bill - only about the genral over view of the bill and how
it would affect Americans.

And we found out that our Rep is not going to be addressing health
care in individual forums but will be conducting an "open" town hall
conference call. WTF?

These "phone" (phony) town halls are becoming pretty popular... It is a
whole lot easier to control the questions and set them up that way. The
Health Care Reform bill is a farce, and everyone knows it.

~~ sigh ~~

It was interesting as I was chatting with some of my former
counterparts in town government that, in general, this is not being
very well received even among Democrats.

Should be an interesting August.



--
Wafa free since 2009

Notice how WAFA and others like him always attack the messengers,
never the message. They never offer their own points in support of a
proposition. Losers all.



The only message the republi-thugs have is "let's disrupt the meeting so
there is no discussion."

No, that's you MO here, narcissist.

Denounce your neighbors
 

H the K wrote:
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 05:27:26 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:38:53 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:


I left after the congressional staffer for my rep, the AARP
representative and two other people (I don't remember who they worked
for - Dodd or Lieberman) said that they couldn't answer specific
questions about the bill itself - they could only discuss "policy
issues" related to the health care bill.
That would seem to be understandable. The bill is not in it's final
form. Plus, as you say, there is a very good chance they haven't
read it in it's entirety.
I'm sorry my friend, but it's not understandable.

I'm taking the time to read it, understand it and get specifics,
directly from the bill, ask questions and participate as a citizen. I
would expect our political leadership to do the same.

I might also point out that informed, concerned citizens are being
called a "mob" for participating in Democracy - as is my right, your
right and everyone's right.

I have a feeling that this is only the begining of the push back.

It's about time.

And you have known liars like Pelosi (remember the CIA issue which has
been squashed) saying she is seeing swasticka's at these meetings and
of course that is bad. Fact is, nobody can find a picture of the
health care oppositition bearing swasticka's at any of these meetings.
However the news showed dozens of pictures of them at anti bush
rallies, hitler mustaches, etc... I guess it's only ok if it's brown
shirts like ACORN, code pink, and Union officials..

Oh, and they are the only ones allowed to enjoy freedom of speech..
it's getting pretty bad..



Freedom of speech at a town hall meeting means you listen to the
presenter, you ask questions, you get answers, and you are courteous to
your fellow citizens who are there to ask questions, get answers, and
learn from the dialogues.

Of course, you and your kind fear that sort of dialogue.

No, that's your MO here, WAFA.

Denounce your neighbors
 

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:31:32 -0500, thunder
wrote:

Maybe, but on health care, it's reaching critical mass, rapidly becoming
20%GDP. That is unsustainable. Health care in this country is broken,
and something will be done about it. The status quo can not continue.

I agree with you - in complete agreement actually.

This, however, ain't the answer. Growing health care from 18% to 30%
of GDP isn't sound either.

Want an example? My daughter treat a lot of Medicare/Medicade, Plan B
people along with her regular patient load.

She and her partner have to hire what is called a "coder" - Medical
Coding Specialist - just to fill out the paperwork properly to send in
for reimbursement which takes it's sweet time getting back to her - as
much as six to eight months in general and it's just about covers her
expenses - as a rule.

$85,000/yr for a Medical Coding Specialist.

Her practice is her, her partner (a surgeon), an NP and a PA. Four
direct care providers supported by 2 nurses, 4 clerks, an office
manager and this coding specialist.

That's what's broken about health care.

Denounce your neighbors
 

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:31:32 -0500, thunder
wrote:

Maybe, but on health care, it's reaching critical mass, rapidly becoming
20%GDP. That is unsustainable. Health care in this country is broken,
and something will be done about it. The status quo can not continue.

I agree with you - in complete agreement actually.

This, however, ain't the answer. Growing health care from 18% to 30%
of GDP isn't sound either.

Want an example? My daughter treat a lot of Medicare/Medicade, Plan B
people along with her regular patient load.

She and her partner have to hire what is called a "coder" - Medical
Coding Specialist - just to fill out the paperwork properly to send in
for reimbursement which takes it's sweet time getting back to her - as
much as six to eight months in general and it's just about covers her
expenses - as a rule.

$85,000/yr for a Medical Coding Specialist.

Her practice is her, her partner (a surgeon), an NP and a PA. Four
direct care providers supported by 2 nurses, 4 clerks, an office
manager and this coding specialist.

That's what's broken about health care.


Good Lord... up here that work is usually done by a $25-30K per year
receptionst.
An exception might be a very large specialist group.
My wife used to deal with them on a regular basis........and I can recall my
next door neighbour (GP) when he was complaining he had to get a new
computer when this procedure went to a direct connection, rather than the
old system of mailing in claims.

Denounce your neighbors
 

"D" wrote in message
...
H the K wrote:
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Another John wrote:
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Another John" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Lu Powell" wrote in message
...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of
doubting
his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative
attitudes
toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They
are
actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people
who
fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps.
When
the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time
to
buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think
they
work for.
Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger,
see:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/

The part that really galls me is the paragraph:

"There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform
out there,
spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care.
These
rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or
through
casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them
here at the
White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or
see
something on the web about health insurance reform that seems
fishy, send
it to ."

"....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are
you now
that we need you?


Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime?

Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site!

I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending.

Maybe you should just get back on the tit.
--
John H

This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit"....
Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams
"tit"...
even now in your twilight years.
Get Harry to tell you the difference.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.
Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant.
Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did!

Yeah, but I bet he has a garage full of really cool gadgets and
tools....


Don has health insurance, and his health needs are being met.

You cannot say the same.

There aren't many Mexicans draining the cash out of their system.
Eliminate that and you have a lot more money to reduce health insurance
premiums for legal Americans.


What's with you clowns...everything is blamed on the Mexicans.
That Lt Colonel sure does indoctrinate his motley troops.