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On 8/7/2009 8:39 PM, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:31:32 -0500, wrote: Maybe, but on health care, it's reaching critical mass, rapidly becoming 20%GDP. That is unsustainable. Health care in this country is broken, and something will be done about it. The status quo can not continue. I agree with you - in complete agreement actually. This, however, ain't the answer. Growing health care from 18% to 30% of GDP isn't sound either. Want an example? My daughter treat a lot of Medicare/Medicade, Plan B people along with her regular patient load. She and her partner have to hire what is called a "coder" - Medical Coding Specialist - just to fill out the paperwork properly to send in for reimbursement which takes it's sweet time getting back to her - as much as six to eight months in general and it's just about covers her expenses - as a rule. $85,000/yr for a Medical Coding Specialist. Her practice is her, her partner (a surgeon), an NP and a PA. Four direct care providers supported by 2 nurses, 4 clerks, an office manager and this coding specialist. That's what's broken about health care. $85K/year is way above the average for a coding specialist. |
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D.Duck wrote:
On 8/7/2009 8:39 PM, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:31:32 -0500, wrote: Maybe, but on health care, it's reaching critical mass, rapidly becoming 20%GDP. That is unsustainable. Health care in this country is broken, and something will be done about it. The status quo can not continue. I agree with you - in complete agreement actually. This, however, ain't the answer. Growing health care from 18% to 30% of GDP isn't sound either. Want an example? My daughter treat a lot of Medicare/Medicade, Plan B people along with her regular patient load. She and her partner have to hire what is called a "coder" - Medical Coding Specialist - just to fill out the paperwork properly to send in for reimbursement which takes it's sweet time getting back to her - as much as six to eight months in general and it's just about covers her expenses - as a rule. $85,000/yr for a Medical Coding Specialist. Her practice is her, her partner (a surgeon), an NP and a PA. Four direct care providers supported by 2 nurses, 4 clerks, an office manager and this coding specialist. That's what's broken about health care. $85K/year is way above the average for a coding specialist. Shhhh...don't confuse Tom. |
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"H the K" wrote in message m... Don White wrote: "D" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... Another John wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Another John" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime? Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site! I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending. Maybe you should just get back on the tit. -- John H This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit".... Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams "tit"... even now in your twilight years. Get Harry to tell you the difference. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant. Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did! Yeah, but I bet he has a garage full of really cool gadgets and tools.... Don has health insurance, and his health needs are being met. You cannot say the same. There aren't many Mexicans draining the cash out of their system. Eliminate that and you have a lot more money to reduce health insurance premiums for legal Americans. What's with you clowns...everything is blamed on the Mexicans. That Lt Colonel sure does indoctrinate his motley troops. It's Krueger...the steaming, poisonous pile of **** that is destroying the florida aquifer. I believe that...he's doing a hell of a job on my septic tank. I'll need a double pumpout & cleaning after his remains are spread out over the drainage field. |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... "D" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... Another John wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Another John" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime? Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site! I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending. Maybe you should just get back on the tit. -- John H This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit".... Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams "tit"... even now in your twilight years. Get Harry to tell you the difference. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant. Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did! Yeah, but I bet he has a garage full of really cool gadgets and tools.... Don has health insurance, and his health needs are being met. You cannot say the same. There aren't many Mexicans draining the cash out of their system. Eliminate that and you have a lot more money to reduce health insurance premiums for legal Americans. What's with you clowns...everything is blamed on the Mexicans. That Lt Colonel sure does indoctrinate his motley troops. How about some numbers on the cost of illegal immigration? I will give you a link. Banmiller is a very respected commentator on the local TV. Liberal TV station also. |
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Don White wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message m... Don White wrote: "D" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... Another John wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Another John" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime? Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site! I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending. Maybe you should just get back on the tit. -- John H This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit".... Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams "tit"... even now in your twilight years. Get Harry to tell you the difference. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant. Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did! Yeah, but I bet he has a garage full of really cool gadgets and tools.... Don has health insurance, and his health needs are being met. You cannot say the same. There aren't many Mexicans draining the cash out of their system. Eliminate that and you have a lot more money to reduce health insurance premiums for legal Americans. What's with you clowns...everything is blamed on the Mexicans. That Lt Colonel sure does indoctrinate his motley troops. It's Krueger...the steaming, poisonous pile of **** that is destroying the florida aquifer. I believe that...he's doing a hell of a job on my septic tank. I'll need a double pumpout & cleaning after his remains are spread out over the drainage field. You two cesspool dwellers (Harriet and Donnie) are doing a pretty good job of polluting this newsgroup. |
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On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:39:41 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
This, however, ain't the answer. Growing health care from 18% to 30% of GDP isn't sound either. Want an example? My daughter treat a lot of Medicare/Medicade, Plan B people along with her regular patient load. She and her partner have to hire what is called a "coder" - Medical Coding Specialist - just to fill out the paperwork properly to send in for reimbursement which takes it's sweet time getting back to her - as much as six to eight months in general and it's just about covers her expenses - as a rule. At least she does get paid. Have you ever asked her about dealing with private insurers? If she's like most doctors I know, she won't have anything good to say about them, either. I have a sister that worked in one of the larger, well known, health insurers, until she couldn't deal with the ethical strain. The standard practice was to deny, deny, deny, approve. The company figured that at every denial, a percentage of clients would stop, saving the company $$$. For someone dealing with an illness, or a loved ones illness, fighting an insurer is stress that is not needed. $85,000/yr for a Medical Coding Specialist. Her practice is her, her partner (a surgeon), an NP and a PA. Four direct care providers supported by 2 nurses, 4 clerks, an office manager and this coding specialist. That's what's broken about health care. You know, Medicare's overhead is @ 3%. That compares quite favorably with the 15-25% of the typical HMO. Personally, I haven't seen anything overly onerous in H.R. 3200. What exactly are your concerns about it? |
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On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:41:18 -0400, RLM wrote:
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:27:20 -0400, John Leo wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:50:13 -0400, RLM wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:31:45 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:00:49 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:54:51 -0400, BAR wrote: H the K wrote: thunder wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:51:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: Everyone who is getting decent health care now has nothing to gain and everything to lose. I think people are beginning to understand that. I don't know your particular situation, but quite a few people *think* they have excellent coverage, until they actually try to use it. It's a fact that health care costs are the leading cause of bankruptcy in the U.S., even when people have health care insurance. Remember, most people's insurance is tied to their jobs. Get a long term illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt. Most of those in this newsgroup who are opposed to health care insurance reform are retired Republicans with substantial assets and health care insurance or retired military with federal health care. It's part of the Republican "I've got mine, so **** you" syndrome. They do not care about Americans who unfortunately fall into the "Get a long term illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt." scenario. Harry you are just plain wrong. Nobody is opposed to reforming our health care system. We are opposed to the government taking over the health care system. After the years of National Socialism under the Bush household a government takeover of health care sounds good. At least they aren't spending billions loosing another war. That was money down a rathole. 4 Americans and 3 Brits killed in Afghanistan... more to come. Did you get an erection posting this? Huh! Dopey? No... Just following the thread, try it. Sorry to have an opposing point of view but give me my due at least until it's illegal. snerk Then you recognize we are wasting our resources with wars that we have no intention of winning. Great! Write a letter to Congress and let them know of your disapproval of the foolishness that has prevailed for eight years. Here is a helpful link. Do something worth while. http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscong...rscongress.htm Have you written to Obama about the foolishness in which he's engaged? Are the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan free? He could have been out of both countries by the end of February. He's running *his* wars now. My "Congress Critters" quite possibly recognize my name. Obama wasn't in office when these fools started their mess. I'm a registered voter and exercise my right. That answers enough of your question. You are the one urging others to write to Congress to express disapproval of the foolishness over the past eight years. (Which would be quite pointless, BTW.) The foolishness and waste is occurring right now. Yet you focus on the past eight years. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 06:13:23 -0500, thunder
wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:39:41 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: This, however, ain't the answer. Growing health care from 18% to 30% of GDP isn't sound either. Want an example? My daughter treat a lot of Medicare/Medicade, Plan B people along with her regular patient load. She and her partner have to hire what is called a "coder" - Medical Coding Specialist - just to fill out the paperwork properly to send in for reimbursement which takes it's sweet time getting back to her - as much as six to eight months in general and it's just about covers her expenses - as a rule. At least she does get paid. Have you ever asked her about dealing with private insurers? If she's like most doctors I know, she won't have anything good to say about them, either. I have a sister that worked in one of the larger, well known, health insurers, until she couldn't deal with the ethical strain. The standard practice was to deny, deny, deny, approve. The company figured that at every denial, a percentage of clients would stop, saving the company $$$. For someone dealing with an illness, or a loved ones illness, fighting an insurer is stress that is not needed. $85,000/yr for a Medical Coding Specialist. Her practice is her, her partner (a surgeon), an NP and a PA. Four direct care providers supported by 2 nurses, 4 clerks, an office manager and this coding specialist. That's what's broken about health care. You know, Medicare's overhead is @ 3%. That compares quite favorably with the 15-25% of the typical HMO. Personally, I haven't seen anything overly onerous in H.R. 3200. What exactly are your concerns about it? Seems like the Democrats on the hill have the same idea. They've seen nothing onerous in H.R. 3200. Of course, they've not *read* H.R. 3200! Ah, ignorance is bliss. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "D" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... Another John wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Another John" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime? Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site! I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending. Maybe you should just get back on the tit. -- John H This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit".... Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams "tit"... even now in your twilight years. Get Harry to tell you the difference. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant. Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did! Yeah, but I bet he has a garage full of really cool gadgets and tools.... Don has health insurance, and his health needs are being met. You cannot say the same. There aren't many Mexicans draining the cash out of their system. Eliminate that and you have a lot more money to reduce health insurance premiums for legal Americans. What's with you clowns...everything is blamed on the Mexicans. That Lt Colonel sure does indoctrinate his motley troops. How about some numbers on the cost of illegal immigration? I will give you a link. Banmiller is a very respected commentator on the local TV. Liberal TV station also. What the $%^%$! Aren't you the guy who picks up these illegal day workers in those make-shift lines behind the Home Depot? |
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