On Aug 6, 2:44*am, jps wrote:
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:55:41 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Aug 5, 8:35*pm, H the K wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 5, 8:24 pm, H the K wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:43:42 -0400, NotNow wrote:
We are not really sure what was in the bag, we just know who the bag
man was. I imagine we gave them a fat foreign aid package.
The lesson reaffirmed was, take hostages or threaten us and the US
will pay up.
That has been true at least since the Kennedy administration when JFK
gave Kruschev everything he wanted to get the missiles out of Cuba, in
spite of a lot of gothic theater and saber rattling.
And what do you think would have happened if there was a (R) in office?
If Nixon had won in 1960 there wouldn't be any Soviets in Cuba because
we would have supported the Bay of Pigs the way we promised the Cuban
nationalists we would.
Castro would be a footnote in history and they would speak english in
Miami.
Kim asked specifically for Clinton. Clinton had the fortitude and
compassion to help DESPITE what he knew the naysayers would say about
him. What has come out here in rec.boats is foolish even on a Harry
scale of political one-sidedness.
I imagine they asked for Bill Clinton because Hillary wouldn't go. It
does give Kim a level of satisfaction with plausible deniability from
the US government. Actually not a bad move in retrospect as long as we
don't care what Kim says about it..
Do you boys *ever*' do more than guess?

When Kim Il-sung died in 1994, President Clinton sent a note of
condolence to his son, Kim Jong-il, the current dictator, who remembered
Clinton's thoughtfulness 15 years ago, and wanted to repay that act of
"kindness."

Maybe Bubba is the only friend he's got?

What about Jesus? When's he's about ready to die, Kim Jong-il may
discover Jesus and therefore be admitted through the pearly gates, right?

1 John 1:9

Harry, I'm not about to put limits on Gods grace.

You've assumed he has grace, why not estimate its boundaries?

Not necessrily. However, I believe you assume He doesn't and is
limited.

On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 02:30:10 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Aug 6, 2:44*am, jps wrote:
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:55:41 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Aug 5, 8:35*pm, H the K wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 5, 8:24 pm, H the K wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:43:42 -0400, NotNow wrote:
We are not really sure what was in the bag, we just know who the bag
man was. I imagine we gave them a fat foreign aid package.
The lesson reaffirmed was, take hostages or threaten us and the US
will pay up.
That has been true at least since the Kennedy administration when JFK
gave Kruschev everything he wanted to get the missiles out of Cuba, in
spite of a lot of gothic theater and saber rattling.
And what do you think would have happened if there was a (R) in office?
If Nixon had won in 1960 there wouldn't be any Soviets in Cuba because
we would have supported the Bay of Pigs the way we promised the Cuban
nationalists we would.
Castro would be a footnote in history and they would speak english in
Miami.
Kim asked specifically for Clinton. Clinton had the fortitude and
compassion to help DESPITE what he knew the naysayers would say about
him. What has come out here in rec.boats is foolish even on a Harry
scale of political one-sidedness.
I imagine they asked for Bill Clinton because Hillary wouldn't go. It
does give Kim a level of satisfaction with plausible deniability from
the US government. Actually not a bad move in retrospect as long as we
don't care what Kim says about it..
Do you boys *ever*' do more than guess?

When Kim Il-sung died in 1994, President Clinton sent a note of
condolence to his son, Kim Jong-il, the current dictator, who remembered
Clinton's thoughtfulness 15 years ago, and wanted to repay that act of
"kindness."

Maybe Bubba is the only friend he's got?

What about Jesus? When's he's about ready to die, Kim Jong-il may
discover Jesus and therefore be admitted through the pearly gates, right?

1 John 1:9

Harry, I'm not about to put limits on Gods grace.

You've assumed he has grace, why not estimate its boundaries?

Not necessrily. However, I believe you assume He doesn't and is
limited.

I don't think of he in the body, mind or soul of a man. He is mother
nature. There's grace in the design of life. There are no pearly
gates.