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On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:09:37 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:24:26 -0400, H the K
wrote:

When Kim Il-sung died in 1994, President Clinton sent a note of
condolence to his son, Kim Jong-il, the current dictator, who remembered
Clinton's thoughtfulness 15 years ago, and wanted to repay that act of
"kindness."

Also, as his term was ending, Clinton was involved in ways to improve
relations between the U.S. and North Korea. The idiot who succeeded
Clinton thought *that* was a bad idea, and now, eight years later, the
North Koreans have nuclear bombs. Yet another legacy of Bush the Idiot.

If you are right Kim III will drop his nuclear program now, stop
threatening Japan and maybe we can bring home the 50,000 guys we have
on his southern border.
I bet none of them happen

That'd depend on if we're smart enough to engage him. Clinton tried
near the end of his term but wasn't able to perfect anything. Bush
just ignored the situation, much as he did Israel. Bolton and his ilk
are isolationists who haven't a ****ing clue about the true nature of
diplomacy. Thank god those assholes aren't running things anymore.

H the K

wrote:
On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:24:26 -0400, H the K
wrote:

When Kim Il-sung died in 1994, President Clinton sent a note of
condolence to his son, Kim Jong-il, the current dictator, who remembered
Clinton's thoughtfulness 15 years ago, and wanted to repay that act of
"kindness."

Also, as his term was ending, Clinton was involved in ways to improve
relations between the U.S. and North Korea. The idiot who succeeded
Clinton thought *that* was a bad idea, and now, eight years later, the
North Koreans have nuclear bombs. Yet another legacy of Bush the Idiot.

If you are right Kim III will drop his nuclear program now, stop
threatening Japan and maybe we can bring home the 50,000 guys we have
on his southern border.
I bet none of them happen

What are you talking about? Clinton *did* send a letter of condolence
and Clinton wanted to de-escalate the situation between the U.S. and
North Korea, and Bush did more or less ignore ways to improve relations
with North Korea and, worse, make our relationship with that nation
deteriorate even further.

That has nothing to do with me being "right." It has everything to do
with our failed diplomacy during the Dubya years.

What Kim does now after eight years of Bush is unpredictable. He may
respect Bill Clinton, but who knows how he feels about the U.S., whether
those feelings can be improved, or whether his illness totally clouds
his abilities.

The point is that we could have been in a better situation vis-a-vis
North Korea but for the incomptencies, failures and wrong-headedness of
the Bush Administration. You righties keeping wanting to forget that
Bush more or less ****ed the world over during his presidency.

jps

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:31:35 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:39:13 -0400, H the K
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:24:26 -0400, H the K
wrote:

When Kim Il-sung died in 1994, President Clinton sent a note of
condolence to his son, Kim Jong-il, the current dictator, who remembered
Clinton's thoughtfulness 15 years ago, and wanted to repay that act of
"kindness."

Also, as his term was ending, Clinton was involved in ways to improve
relations between the U.S. and North Korea. The idiot who succeeded
Clinton thought *that* was a bad idea, and now, eight years later, the
North Koreans have nuclear bombs. Yet another legacy of Bush the Idiot.

If you are right Kim III will drop his nuclear program now, stop
threatening Japan and maybe we can bring home the 50,000 guys we have
on his southern border.
I bet none of them happen

What are you talking about? Clinton *did* send a letter of condolence
and Clinton wanted to de-escalate the situation between the U.S. and
North Korea, and Bush did more or less ignore ways to improve relations
with North Korea and, worse, make our relationship with that nation
deteriorate even further.

That has nothing to do with me being "right." It has everything to do
with our failed diplomacy during the Dubya years.

What Kim does now after eight years of Bush is unpredictable. He may
respect Bill Clinton, but who knows how he feels about the U.S., whether
those feelings can be improved, or whether his illness totally clouds
his abilities.

The point is that we could have been in a better situation vis-a-vis
North Korea but for the incomptencies, failures and wrong-headedness of
the Bush Administration. You righties keeping wanting to forget that
Bush more or less ****ed the world over during his presidency.

TEN presidents in a row have ****ed up the Korean problem. Clinton had
8 years to do something and nothing happened.
It is like Iraq. That cluster **** has gone on for 18 years. A kid
born the day we started that war could be drafted to go fight in it
now.

As for JPs allegation that Bush ignored Israel, why does he think we
are in Iraq in the first place?

Oil.

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