H the K wrote:
BAR wrote:
H the K wrote:
BAR wrote:
NotNow wrote:
That no good dirty, nasty liberal ******* went to North Korea, and
used that damned namby-pamby liberal bull**** called diplomacy and
got those journalists released.

Clinton was used.



Clinton got the young ladies out of North Korea. That's what matters.

Where was your president, you know...Dubya...drunk?

What did Obama do to get them out? Absolutely nothing!



How would you know that?

Enlighten me.

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:00:10 -0400, BAR wrote:

H the K wrote:
BAR wrote:
NotNow wrote:
That no good dirty, nasty liberal ******* went to North Korea, and
used that damned namby-pamby liberal bull**** called diplomacy and
got those journalists released.

Clinton was used.



Clinton got the young ladies out of North Korea. That's what matters.

Where was your president, you know...Dubya...drunk?

What did Obama do to get them out? Absolutely nothing!

Hey Bert!

I finally shot a 90 on Greendale today. Yippee. I'll get to the 80's
one of these years.
--

John H

wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:06:58 -0400, NotNow wrote:

That no good dirty, nasty liberal ******* went to North Korea, and used
that damned namby-pamby liberal bull**** called diplomacy and got those
journalists released.

It was simply a way of giving Lil Kim the photo op with an important
American kissing his ass that he demanded without actually sending a
government official. I guess Jimmy Carter was busy.
Sarah Palin probably would have worked too ... by golly


Yeah. We should have just let Kim do anything he wanted with our
innocent Americans.

In article ,
says...

wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:06:58 -0400, NotNow wrote:

That no good dirty, nasty liberal ******* went to North Korea, and used
that damned namby-pamby liberal bull**** called diplomacy and got those
journalists released.

It was simply a way of giving Lil Kim the photo op with an important
American kissing his ass that he demanded without actually sending a
government official. I guess Jimmy Carter was busy.
Sarah Palin probably would have worked too ... by golly


Yeah. We should have just let Kim do anything he wanted with our
innocent Americans.

No we shouldn't, but President Clinton didn't negotiate anything, he
just delivered the booty whatever it was. Good on him for doing what he
did, his name was obviously part of the deal, but he didn't do it..
That's all I was saying.

--
Wafa free since 2009

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:06:58 -0400, NotNow wrote:

That no good dirty, nasty liberal ******* went to North Korea, and used
that damned namby-pamby liberal bull**** called diplomacy and got those
journalists released.
It was simply a way of giving Lil Kim the photo op with an important
American kissing his ass that he demanded without actually sending a
government official. I guess Jimmy Carter was busy.
Sarah Palin probably would have worked too ... by golly

Yeah. We should have just let Kim do anything he wanted with our
innocent Americans.

No we shouldn't, but President Clinton didn't negotiate anything, he
just delivered the booty whatever it was. Good on him for doing what he
did, his name was obviously part of the deal, but he didn't do it..
That's all I was saying.

And you know this how?

On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:50:38 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:04:57 -0400, NotNow wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:06:58 -0400, NotNow wrote:

That no good dirty, nasty liberal ******* went to North Korea, and used
that damned namby-pamby liberal bull**** called diplomacy and got those
journalists released.

It was simply a way of giving Lil Kim the photo op with an important
American kissing his ass that he demanded without actually sending a
government official. I guess Jimmy Carter was busy.
Sarah Palin probably would have worked too ... by golly


Yeah. We should have just let Kim do anything he wanted with our
innocent Americans.

We are not really sure what was in the bag, we just know who the bag
man was. I imagine we gave them a fat foreign aid package.
The lesson reaffirmed was, take hostages or threaten us and the US
will pay up.
That has been true at least since the Kennedy administration when JFK
gave Kruschev everything he wanted to get the missiles out of Cuba, in
spite of a lot of gothic theater and saber rattling.

We gave them a photo op. KJI made it into a state visit to bolster
his own image within the country. He's trying to manipulate handing
power to his son and he's not doing as well as he'd like in the being
worshipped department.

This was purely KJI proving that he had the stones and the leverage to
get a former president to come to NK.

If we gave them anything, it'd have come through the State Department
and official channels.

On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:41:31 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:00:54 -0700, jps wrote:

We are not really sure what was in the bag, we just know who the bag
man was. I imagine we gave them a fat foreign aid package.
The lesson reaffirmed was, take hostages or threaten us and the US
will pay up.
That has been true at least since the Kennedy administration when JFK
gave Kruschev everything he wanted to get the missiles out of Cuba, in
spite of a lot of gothic theater and saber rattling.

We gave them a photo op. KJI made it into a state visit to bolster
his own image within the country. He's trying to manipulate handing
power to his son and he's not doing as well as he'd like in the being
worshipped department.

This was purely KJI proving that he had the stones and the leverage to
get a former president to come to NK.

If we gave them anything, it'd have come through the State Department
and official channels.

I am sure the concessions did come through the State Department. The
former president does speak to the SoS occasionally ... I imagine.

The deal was that Clinton's appearance would reflect well on dear
leader. That was payment enough.

On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:55:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:41:31 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:00:54 -0700, jps wrote:

We are not really sure what was in the bag, we just know who the bag
man was. I imagine we gave them a fat foreign aid package.
The lesson reaffirmed was, take hostages or threaten us and the US
will pay up.
That has been true at least since the Kennedy administration when JFK
gave Kruschev everything he wanted to get the missiles out of Cuba, in
spite of a lot of gothic theater and saber rattling.

We gave them a photo op. KJI made it into a state visit to bolster
his own image within the country. He's trying to manipulate handing
power to his son and he's not doing as well as he'd like in the being
worshipped department.

This was purely KJI proving that he had the stones and the leverage to
get a former president to come to NK.

If we gave them anything, it'd have come through the State Department
and official channels.

I am sure the concessions did come through the State Department. The
former president does speak to the SoS occasionally ... I imagine.

The deal was that Clinton's appearance would reflect well on dear
leader. That was payment enough.

That's what the right wing talk show guys were saying. That is the
minimum payment he got.
--

John H

On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:15:53 -0400, Little John
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:55:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:41:31 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:00:54 -0700, jps wrote:

We are not really sure what was in the bag, we just know who the bag
man was. I imagine we gave them a fat foreign aid package.
The lesson reaffirmed was, take hostages or threaten us and the US
will pay up.
That has been true at least since the Kennedy administration when JFK
gave Kruschev everything he wanted to get the missiles out of Cuba, in
spite of a lot of gothic theater and saber rattling.

We gave them a photo op. KJI made it into a state visit to bolster
his own image within the country. He's trying to manipulate handing
power to his son and he's not doing as well as he'd like in the being
worshipped department.

This was purely KJI proving that he had the stones and the leverage to
get a former president to come to NK.

If we gave them anything, it'd have come through the State Department
and official channels.

I am sure the concessions did come through the State Department. The
former president does speak to the SoS occasionally ... I imagine.

The deal was that Clinton's appearance would reflect well on dear
leader. That was payment enough.

That's what the right wing talk show guys were saying. That is the
minimum payment he got.

Jesus ****in' Christ, don't tell me we agree on something.

Little John wrote:
On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:55:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:41:31 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:00:54 -0700, jps wrote:

We are not really sure what was in the bag, we just know who the bag
man was. I imagine we gave them a fat foreign aid package.
The lesson reaffirmed was, take hostages or threaten us and the US
will pay up.
That has been true at least since the Kennedy administration when JFK
gave Kruschev everything he wanted to get the missiles out of Cuba, in
spite of a lot of gothic theater and saber rattling.
We gave them a photo op. KJI made it into a state visit to bolster
his own image within the country. He's trying to manipulate handing
power to his son and he's not doing as well as he'd like in the being
worshipped department.

This was purely KJI proving that he had the stones and the leverage to
get a former president to come to NK.

If we gave them anything, it'd have come through the State Department
and official channels.
I am sure the concessions did come through the State Department. The
former president does speak to the SoS occasionally ... I imagine.
The deal was that Clinton's appearance would reflect well on dear
leader. That was payment enough.

That's what the right wing talk show guys were saying. That is the
minimum payment he got.
--

John H

John, did you happen to catch the home coming of the reporters? Maybe
you should try to tell them it was all a staged event to make Obama look
better, and that you think Clinton should not have gone there to get
them even though Kim asked that he do so to gain their release.