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JustWait wrote:
In article , says... wrote: On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:06:58 -0400, NotNow wrote: That no good dirty, nasty liberal ******* went to North Korea, and used that damned namby-pamby liberal bull**** called diplomacy and got those journalists released. It was simply a way of giving Lil Kim the photo op with an important American kissing his ass that he demanded without actually sending a government official. I guess Jimmy Carter was busy. Sarah Palin probably would have worked too ... by golly Yeah. We should have just let Kim do anything he wanted with our innocent Americans. No we shouldn't, but President Clinton didn't negotiate anything, he just delivered the booty whatever it was. Good on him for doing what he did, his name was obviously part of the deal, but he didn't do it.. That's all I was saying. And you know this how? |
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On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:55:00 -0700, jps wrote:
On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:41:31 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:00:54 -0700, jps wrote: We are not really sure what was in the bag, we just know who the bag man was. I imagine we gave them a fat foreign aid package. The lesson reaffirmed was, take hostages or threaten us and the US will pay up. That has been true at least since the Kennedy administration when JFK gave Kruschev everything he wanted to get the missiles out of Cuba, in spite of a lot of gothic theater and saber rattling. We gave them a photo op. KJI made it into a state visit to bolster his own image within the country. He's trying to manipulate handing power to his son and he's not doing as well as he'd like in the being worshipped department. This was purely KJI proving that he had the stones and the leverage to get a former president to come to NK. If we gave them anything, it'd have come through the State Department and official channels. I am sure the concessions did come through the State Department. The former president does speak to the SoS occasionally ... I imagine. The deal was that Clinton's appearance would reflect well on dear leader. That was payment enough. That's what the right wing talk show guys were saying. That is the minimum payment he got. -- John H |
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On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:15:53 -0400, Little John
wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:55:00 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:41:31 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:00:54 -0700, jps wrote: We are not really sure what was in the bag, we just know who the bag man was. I imagine we gave them a fat foreign aid package. The lesson reaffirmed was, take hostages or threaten us and the US will pay up. That has been true at least since the Kennedy administration when JFK gave Kruschev everything he wanted to get the missiles out of Cuba, in spite of a lot of gothic theater and saber rattling. We gave them a photo op. KJI made it into a state visit to bolster his own image within the country. He's trying to manipulate handing power to his son and he's not doing as well as he'd like in the being worshipped department. This was purely KJI proving that he had the stones and the leverage to get a former president to come to NK. If we gave them anything, it'd have come through the State Department and official channels. I am sure the concessions did come through the State Department. The former president does speak to the SoS occasionally ... I imagine. The deal was that Clinton's appearance would reflect well on dear leader. That was payment enough. That's what the right wing talk show guys were saying. That is the minimum payment he got. Jesus ****in' Christ, don't tell me we agree on something. |
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jps wrote:
On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:15:53 -0400, Little John wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:55:00 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:41:31 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:00:54 -0700, jps wrote: We are not really sure what was in the bag, we just know who the bag man was. I imagine we gave them a fat foreign aid package. The lesson reaffirmed was, take hostages or threaten us and the US will pay up. That has been true at least since the Kennedy administration when JFK gave Kruschev everything he wanted to get the missiles out of Cuba, in spite of a lot of gothic theater and saber rattling. We gave them a photo op. KJI made it into a state visit to bolster his own image within the country. He's trying to manipulate handing power to his son and he's not doing as well as he'd like in the being worshipped department. This was purely KJI proving that he had the stones and the leverage to get a former president to come to NK. If we gave them anything, it'd have come through the State Department and official channels. I am sure the concessions did come through the State Department. The former president does speak to the SoS occasionally ... I imagine. The deal was that Clinton's appearance would reflect well on dear leader. That was payment enough. That's what the right wing talk show guys were saying. That is the minimum payment he got. Jesus ****in' Christ, don't tell me we agree on something. Note that the herringoid actually admits he listens to reich-wing talk shows. |
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Little John wrote:
On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:55:00 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:41:31 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:00:54 -0700, jps wrote: We are not really sure what was in the bag, we just know who the bag man was. I imagine we gave them a fat foreign aid package. The lesson reaffirmed was, take hostages or threaten us and the US will pay up. That has been true at least since the Kennedy administration when JFK gave Kruschev everything he wanted to get the missiles out of Cuba, in spite of a lot of gothic theater and saber rattling. We gave them a photo op. KJI made it into a state visit to bolster his own image within the country. He's trying to manipulate handing power to his son and he's not doing as well as he'd like in the being worshipped department. This was purely KJI proving that he had the stones and the leverage to get a former president to come to NK. If we gave them anything, it'd have come through the State Department and official channels. I am sure the concessions did come through the State Department. The former president does speak to the SoS occasionally ... I imagine. The deal was that Clinton's appearance would reflect well on dear leader. That was payment enough. That's what the right wing talk show guys were saying. That is the minimum payment he got. -- John H John, did you happen to catch the home coming of the reporters? Maybe you should try to tell them it was all a staged event to make Obama look better, and that you think Clinton should not have gone there to get them even though Kim asked that he do so to gain their release. |
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:41:44 -0400, NotNow wrote:
Little John wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:55:00 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:41:31 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:00:54 -0700, jps wrote: We are not really sure what was in the bag, we just know who the bag man was. I imagine we gave them a fat foreign aid package. The lesson reaffirmed was, take hostages or threaten us and the US will pay up. That has been true at least since the Kennedy administration when JFK gave Kruschev everything he wanted to get the missiles out of Cuba, in spite of a lot of gothic theater and saber rattling. We gave them a photo op. KJI made it into a state visit to bolster his own image within the country. He's trying to manipulate handing power to his son and he's not doing as well as he'd like in the being worshipped department. This was purely KJI proving that he had the stones and the leverage to get a former president to come to NK. If we gave them anything, it'd have come through the State Department and official channels. I am sure the concessions did come through the State Department. The former president does speak to the SoS occasionally ... I imagine. The deal was that Clinton's appearance would reflect well on dear leader. That was payment enough. That's what the right wing talk show guys were saying. That is the minimum payment he got. -- John H John, did you happen to catch the home coming of the reporters? Maybe you should try to tell them it was all a staged event to make Obama look better, and that you think Clinton should not have gone there to get them even though Kim asked that he do so to gain their release. Now that you mention it, the news this morning presented the fact that telephone negotiations about who, what, when, where, have been underway for some time. Was it a staged event? It sure as hell wasn't a 'spur of the moment' thing! -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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