On Jul 19, 9:30*am, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:27:08 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:



Ah... it sounded like you were complaining about the high cost of
insurance. *But now I understand that you're both "retired", with your
wife choosing to work at a basic job where the insurance cost 25% of
her pay. *Nothing wrong with that.

No, my wife is 17 years younger than me and will be working for a long
time yet, insurance or not. *And she's the highest paid in her unit
except for the manager.

Sounds like she's getting the short end of the stick, in more than one
way. Good for you, though. :-)


I agree that the people who choose to not insure, then use the
emergency room for free health care is a problem. *However, if you're
rooting for national health care so your wife can quit work and I'll
have to pick up your health care tab... well, I have a problem with
that.

Tell me your problem with paying my SS and I'll shed a couple tears.
My problem isn't with paying, it's with a system that only *some* pay
into, and a system that locks people into jobs because health
insurance isn't universally available and portable. *Stifles and puts
artificial constraints into movement in the job market, and gives
foreigners a competitive edge in trade.

--Vic

But the people that can afford it are already paying into it, and you
know that when the gov gets involved, that percentage will not go
down. The care that's there will drop, will be rationed, and the
payees will pay more. Only problem is, unlike Mexico and Canada, we
have nowhere to go to get the care. Screwed again. Movement in the
job market is a non-starter... modern lack of company loyalty and
commitment is part of our problem. Few employees care about where
they work, and we wonder why the products and work ethics are crap?

Don't get me started about SS. Hope you aren't planning to pull out
more than you paid in, right? Government run ponzi scheme. Cash in
now and bankrupt our future generations... oh wait, that's already
happening, just through other means.

Tired, been boating all day. Later.

Jack wrote:



modern lack of company loyalty and
commitment is part of our problem. Few employees care about where
they work, and we wonder why the products and work ethics are crap?


Company loyalty? Commitment to the company? Give your life to the
company so that you can be laid off two years before your retirement or
your job is shifted overseas?

The only loyalty as a worker a working person should have is to
himself/herself and the family.

It used to be different...but that was before greed became the most
important corporate goal.

"H the K" wrote in message
m...


Company loyalty? Commitment to the company? Give your life to the company
so that you can be laid off two years before your retirement or your job
is shifted overseas?

The only loyalty as a worker a working person should have is to
himself/herself and the family.

It used to be different...but that was before greed became the most
important corporate goal.


Y A W N

The more you keep repeating this mantra, the more you sound like someone who
consistantly got their ass kicked over the years.

You snooze, you lose.

Eisboch

On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:29:16 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

The more you keep repeating this mantra, the more you sound like someone who
consistantly got their ass kicked over the years.


Doesn't play well with others.

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"H the K" wrote in message
m...


Company loyalty? Commitment to the company? Give your life to the company
so that you can be laid off two years before your retirement or your job
is shifted overseas?

The only loyalty as a worker a working person should have is to
himself/herself and the family.

It used to be different...but that was before greed became the most
important corporate goal.


Y A W N

The more you keep repeating this mantra, the more you sound like someone
who consistantly got their ass kicked over the years.

You snooze, you lose.

Eisboch


Actually sounds more like greed of the employee. Give me the money and I
might help the company. Or maybe not.