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On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:34:31 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:59:31 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:28:07 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: 9.5% unemployment, wow, Bozoma told us it wouldnt get that bad with his stimulus and all. Dont feel so bad, now you can not only be unemployed but $30,000 more in debt than you were under Bush. You seen any stimulus, SUCKER. The reality is that those who produce the new jobs are all on strike for fear of being punished by Bozoma for having employees so thy are laying em off as fast as they can. It's gonna be 15% by the end of the year and 20% by this time next year. Is Bozoma gonna pay your mortgage? Hey, if you act nice like a good house slave he might send you a check for a couple of bucks, you know enough to buy a beer while he shovels trillions into his buddies pockets. Good Job Dems. Gone 'round the bend, eh? I hope you enjoy eating all this bull**** when it doesn't come true. Rising unemployment is inevitable. But it's the globalist Wall Streeters to blame, not Obama. Clinton and Bush II are the major culprits. From what I see, the country has been supported by rising debt, inflated real estate (more debt with 2nd, 3rd mortgages) and inflated Wall Street equity prices for roughly 15 years. That debt based on bubbles didn't stop real wages from going down, but kept food on the table and enough toys to satisfy the populace. Somewhat an offset for much of the pain felt by the wholesale exportation of American manufacturing, IT and engineering during that period. Service jobs did well enough in a false economy, as the false cash - derived from debt and bubbles - was available. Forget about your financial future, enjoy your toys and poorly paid illegals serving you food, cleaning your house, and cutting your grass. That was the attitude I saw. That exportation of jobs started earlier, but accelerated greatly during Clinton and Bush II. The bubbles have burst, the debt is due, but the jobs have gone away. What to do? That's for Obama to figure out. He'll have nowhere to hide from his responsibilities. The only way out now is to tax the well-off to keep the hoi poloi calm, or start incentivizing the production of consumer goods with money and tariffs. Probably need a combination of both. Wealth doesn't trickle down. It works it's way up through osmosis from those producing the goods we use. That's how I see it, having been on both the production end and the service end throughout my life. But I'm not an economist, just a guy next to the cracker barrel. So what I say don't really matter except to me. --Vic Completely agree. That Obama is being blamed for it while trying to do something about it is just plain dishonest. I'm no fan of Clinton's global economy. Our society and the middle class is being flushed down the toilet while the corporations take advantage of whatever country's tax laws are the most advantageous and labor rates the lowest. Scummy business that's going to ruin this country. Scummy business already has ruined this country. |
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On Jul 2, 10:04*pm, HK wrote:
jps wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:34:31 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:59:31 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:28:07 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: 9.5% unemployment, wow, Bozoma told us it wouldnt get that bad with his stimulus and all. *Dont feel so bad, now you can not only be unemployed but $30,000 more in debt than you were under Bush. *You seen any stimulus, SUCKER. The reality is that those who produce the new jobs are all on strike for fear of being punished by Bozoma for having employees so thy are laying em off as fast as they can. *It's gonna be 15% by the end of the year and 20% by this time next year. *Is Bozoma gonna pay your mortgage? *Hey, if you act nice like a good house slave he might send you a check for a couple of bucks, you know enough to buy a beer while he shovels trillions into his buddies pockets. Good Job Dems. Gone 'round the bend, eh? *I hope you enjoy eating all this bull**** when it doesn't come true. Rising unemployment is inevitable. *But it's the globalist Wall Streeters to blame, not Obama. *Clinton and Bush II are the major culprits. From what I see, the country has been supported by rising debt, inflated real estate (more debt with 2nd, 3rd mortgages) and inflated Wall Street equity prices for roughly 15 years. That debt based on bubbles didn't stop real wages from going down, but kept food on the table and enough toys to satisfy the populace. Somewhat an offset for much of the pain felt by the wholesale exportation of American manufacturing, IT and engineering during that period. *Service jobs did well enough in a false economy, as the false cash - derived from debt and bubbles - was available. Forget about your financial future, enjoy your toys and poorly paid illegals serving you food, cleaning your house, and cutting your grass. *That was the attitude I saw. That exportation of jobs started earlier, but accelerated greatly during Clinton and Bush II. The bubbles have burst, the debt is due, but the jobs have gone away. What to do? That's for Obama to figure out. He'll have nowhere to hide from his responsibilities. The only way out now is to tax the well-off to keep the hoi poloi calm, or start incentivizing the production of consumer goods with money and tariffs. *Probably need a combination of both. Wealth doesn't trickle down. *It works it's way up through osmosis from those producing the goods we use. That's how I see it, having been on both the production end and the service end throughout my life. But I'm not an economist, just a guy next to the cracker barrel. So what I say don't really matter except to me. --Vic Completely agree. *That Obama is being blamed for it while trying to do something about it is just plain dishonest. I'm no fan of Clinton's global economy. *Our society and the middle class is being flushed down the toilet while the corporations take advantage of whatever country's tax laws are the most advantageous and labor rates the lowest. Scummy business that's going to ruin this country. Scummy business already has ruined this country. The business called "unions". |
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jps wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:34:31 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:59:31 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:28:07 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: 9.5% unemployment, wow, Bozoma told us it wouldnt get that bad with his stimulus and all. Dont feel so bad, now you can not only be unemployed but $30,000 more in debt than you were under Bush. You seen any stimulus, SUCKER. The reality is that those who produce the new jobs are all on strike for fear of being punished by Bozoma for having employees so thy are laying em off as fast as they can. It's gonna be 15% by the end of the year and 20% by this time next year. Is Bozoma gonna pay your mortgage? Hey, if you act nice like a good house slave he might send you a check for a couple of bucks, you know enough to buy a beer while he shovels trillions into his buddies pockets. Good Job Dems. Gone 'round the bend, eh? I hope you enjoy eating all this bull**** when it doesn't come true. Rising unemployment is inevitable. But it's the globalist Wall Streeters to blame, not Obama. Clinton and Bush II are the major culprits. From what I see, the country has been supported by rising debt, inflated real estate (more debt with 2nd, 3rd mortgages) and inflated Wall Street equity prices for roughly 15 years. That debt based on bubbles didn't stop real wages from going down, but kept food on the table and enough toys to satisfy the populace. Somewhat an offset for much of the pain felt by the wholesale exportation of American manufacturing, IT and engineering during that period. Service jobs did well enough in a false economy, as the false cash - derived from debt and bubbles - was available. Forget about your financial future, enjoy your toys and poorly paid illegals serving you food, cleaning your house, and cutting your grass. That was the attitude I saw. That exportation of jobs started earlier, but accelerated greatly during Clinton and Bush II. The bubbles have burst, the debt is due, but the jobs have gone away. What to do? That's for Obama to figure out. He'll have nowhere to hide from his responsibilities. The only way out now is to tax the well-off to keep the hoi poloi calm, or start incentivizing the production of consumer goods with money and tariffs. Probably need a combination of both. Wealth doesn't trickle down. It works it's way up through osmosis from those producing the goods we use. That's how I see it, having been on both the production end and the service end throughout my life. But I'm not an economist, just a guy next to the cracker barrel. So what I say don't really matter except to me. --Vic Completely agree. That Obama is being blamed for it while trying to do something about it is just plain dishonest. I'm no fan of Clinton's global economy. Our society and the middle class is being flushed down the toilet while the corporations take advantage of whatever country's tax laws are the most advantageous and labor rates the lowest. Scummy business that's going to ruin this country. Ahhhhh, a post from Just a Piece of ****... Buh, Bye asshole, and you know you are. plonk |
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