On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 18:59:06 -0400, "lupowell" wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:03:13 -0400, HK wrote:

jps wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:57:50 -0400, "lupowell" wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
"Neither the acceleration nor the jobs goal are new. Both represent a
White House repackaging of promises and projects to blunt criticism
that the effects haven't been worth the historic price tag. And the
job estimate is so murky, it can never be verified."

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090609/D98MRQU80.html

One term, as in Carter's fiasco. We need new leadership - other than
Palin
or Gingrich in 2012. Here's hoping someone rises from the ashes....

Gingrich has risen from the ashes. That's your plan?

Have you ever heard the hope is not a plan?


What could be funnier than the frontrunners for the 2012 GOP nomination
being Newt Gingrich, a retreaded congressman with serious ethical
issues, and Sarah Palin, a simple-minded, ignorant woman whose
intellectual gaffes are emblazoned on hours of "HD" videotape?

Bring 'em on...

It's embarassing these buffoons could be put forward by one of the two
US policial parties to be leaders of our country and the free world.

A joke is putting it kindly.

If Palin or Newt are the only choices in 2012, might as well go for the
Libertarian candidate; certainly not for the Messiah and his hand puppet.

That'll put you squarely in the losing camp. I'd start searching high
schools for who may bring some ideas and value to the party by 2016.

"jps" wrote in message
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On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 18:59:06 -0400, "lupowell" wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:03:13 -0400, HK wrote:

jps wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:57:50 -0400, "lupowell" wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
"Neither the acceleration nor the jobs goal are new. Both represent
a
White House repackaging of promises and projects to blunt criticism
that the effects haven't been worth the historic price tag. And the
job estimate is so murky, it can never be verified."

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090609/D98MRQU80.html

One term, as in Carter's fiasco. We need new leadership - other than
Palin
or Gingrich in 2012. Here's hoping someone rises from the ashes....

Gingrich has risen from the ashes. That's your plan?

Have you ever heard the hope is not a plan?


What could be funnier than the frontrunners for the 2012 GOP nomination
being Newt Gingrich, a retreaded congressman with serious ethical
issues, and Sarah Palin, a simple-minded, ignorant woman whose
intellectual gaffes are emblazoned on hours of "HD" videotape?

Bring 'em on...

It's embarassing these buffoons could be put forward by one of the two
US policial parties to be leaders of our country and the free world.

A joke is putting it kindly.

If Palin or Newt are the only choices in 2012, might as well go for the
Libertarian candidate; certainly not for the Messiah and his hand puppet.

That'll put you squarely in the losing camp. I'd start searching high
schools for who may bring some ideas and value to the party by 2016.

You could be right, and then I think back to 1980 and Jimmy Carter's bid
for a second term. Granted, the Iranian hostage crisis, rampant inflation,
and a few scandals in his cabinet had their effects. It's a long time to
2012; plenty of time for stubbing one's toes. Iran and Israel/Palestine are
still to be dealt with. North Korea is a thorn in any president's side. The
economy is not improving, and by 2010, voters are not going to be blaming
Bush any more.

lupowell wrote:

The economy is not improving, and by 2010, voters
are not going to be blaming Bush any more.

But I bet HK & JPS will still be blaming Bush.

Johnson

On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 19:18:05 -0400, "lupowell" wrote:



You could be right, and then I think back to 1980 and Jimmy Carter's bid
for a second term. Granted, the Iranian hostage crisis, rampant inflation,
and a few scandals in his cabinet had their effects. It's a long time to
2012; plenty of time for stubbing one's toes. Iran and Israel/Palestine are
still to be dealt with. North Korea is a thorn in any president's side. The
economy is not improving, and by 2010, voters are not going to be blaming
Bush any more.

Good memory about out Carter. Many forget the wider situation. Think
there was a "gas crisis" in there too.
The point about it being "Obama's economy" is likewise on target.
Look's like it's already happened.
A while back Eisboch took issue with me blaming Reagan for my being
laid off during the worst economy since the depression, and for saying
that Obama will likewise take the fall soon into office.
Look's like Richard had jumped aboard.
Knew he was sensible.

--Vic

On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:44:27 -0400, Johnson
wrote:

lupowell wrote:

The economy is not improving, and by 2010, voters
are not going to be blaming Bush any more.

But I bet HK & JPS will still be blaming Bush.

Johnson

No, I'll be blaming Clinton for getting a bj. Otherwise, Gore would
have been president and we'd have avoided the stupid cocksucker and
his maniacal pseudo dad.

Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 19:18:05 -0400, "lupowell" wrote:


You could be right, and then I think back to 1980 and Jimmy Carter's bid
for a second term. Granted, the Iranian hostage crisis, rampant inflation,
and a few scandals in his cabinet had their effects. It's a long time to
2012; plenty of time for stubbing one's toes. Iran and Israel/Palestine are
still to be dealt with. North Korea is a thorn in any president's side. The
economy is not improving, and by 2010, voters are not going to be blaming
Bush any more.

Good memory about out Carter. Many forget the wider situation. Think
there was a "gas crisis" in there too.
The point about it being "Obama's economy" is likewise on target.
Look's like it's already happened.
A while back Eisboch took issue with me blaming Reagan for my being
laid off during the worst economy since the depression, and for saying
that Obama will likewise take the fall soon into office.
Look's like Richard had jumped aboard.
Knew he was sensible.

--Vic


Republicans have hope...but it's the hope Obama will fail. They've
nothing else to hope for...since they and their party are bereft of
ideas, solutions, anything.

Sarah Palin...the great white GOP hope...


snerk



--
The modern GOP is little more than an army of moral absolutists led by a
gang of moral nihilists.

"HK" wrote in message
...


Republicans have hope...but it's the hope Obama will fail. They've nothing
else to hope for...since they and their party are bereft of ideas,
solutions, anything.

Sarah Palin...the great white GOP hope...



Sarah Palin is a non event, except in your dreams.
Same with the Grinch.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
...


Republicans have hope...but it's the hope Obama will fail. They've
nothing else to hope for...since they and their party are bereft of
ideas, solutions, anything.

Sarah Palin...the great white GOP hope...



Sarah Palin is a non event, except in your dreams.
Same with the Grinch.

Eisboch

Exactly right. Independent voters are a fickle lot, though they tend to
force R's and D's to find a rational center. Krause and his ilk write like
they are on the front end of a long reign in Washington.

Unless Osamabama delivers, they will be wondering what went wrong, and a lot
of D's in Disneyland on the Potomac will be looking for work in 2010 and
2012.

An old adage is appropriate he "May my words be tender, for I may have to
eat them later."


Lu Powell said that.

On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:28:25 -0400, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 19:18:05 -0400, "lupowell" wrote:


You could be right, and then I think back to 1980 and Jimmy Carter's bid
for a second term. Granted, the Iranian hostage crisis, rampant inflation,
and a few scandals in his cabinet had their effects. It's a long time to
2012; plenty of time for stubbing one's toes. Iran and Israel/Palestine are
still to be dealt with. North Korea is a thorn in any president's side. The
economy is not improving, and by 2010, voters are not going to be blaming
Bush any more.

Good memory about out Carter. Many forget the wider situation. Think
there was a "gas crisis" in there too.
The point about it being "Obama's economy" is likewise on target.
Look's like it's already happened.
A while back Eisboch took issue with me blaming Reagan for my being
laid off during the worst economy since the depression, and for saying
that Obama will likewise take the fall soon into office.
Look's like Richard had jumped aboard.
Knew he was sensible.

--Vic


Republicans have hope...but it's the hope Obama will fail. They've
nothing else to hope for...since they and their party are bereft of
ideas, solutions, anything.

Sarah Palin...the great white GOP hope...

Hope is not a plan and they have no plan, nor any ideas.

On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 21:16:36 -0400, "lupowell" wrote:

Osamabama

An old adage is appropriate he "May my words be tender, for I may have to
eat them later."

Osamabama?

You should have to eat some biker dyke bush first.