[BAR[_2_]]

Jim22208 wrote:
HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...

This sends me and I aim to **** and moan right back at the idiots
who've prejudged everything Obama has done without seeing any
results.

Some of us can read a road map. We don't need to be there to
recognize the ultimate destination.

Eisboch

You were silent when Bush drove this country over a cliff.

Not so. I voted for Bush over Gore in his first term election, and
I certainly didn't vote for Kerry.
However, as events evolved, I think I expressed disappointment with
many of Bush's policies and decisions.
I even admitted that I didn't think he was the brightest bulb in the
draw.

I still don't buy all the "lying to get us into a war" rhetoric
though. There is plenty of evidence that Congressional leaders in
both parties were convinced of a potential threat by Iraq, even
before Bush. That history cannot be changed. Those that sounded
the battle cries and then changed their mind later are all forgiven
by the left. Those who had to make the decisions are held
accountable and therefore get all the blame.

I even offered comments of respect for Obama, both pre and post
election. I thought he would be especially good for the country in
the repair of global relations matters. Still do, to a degree.
But his domestic social and economic ideas and policies disturb me
greatly, and the more he talks the more disturbed I become.
Radical changes are being pushed that go beyond fixing greed,
dishonest companies, banks or Wall Street. Those issues should be
addressed and fixed, but not at the cost of changing the basic
social and economic structure of the country.

So, I don't preach the latest round of political talking points like
you. I think for myself.

Eisboch


The reply to your well written post will be, Bush did this and Bush
did that.

Gotta stop living in the past and move on. We're in deep doo-doo.


It is important to drive home again and again and again just who
pushed this country over a cliff. It was...the Republicans and Bush.

Thank you.

That's not really going to help with anything. Do you have anything else
on your mind that's important?

Krause is too funny. Let him keep beating the war drums. Don't tell him
that his side won Congress and the Presidency and they now have to
actually do something besides complain.

[BAR[_2_]]

thunder wrote:
On Fri, 22 May 2009 07:17:41 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


I still don't buy all the "lying to get us into a war" rhetoric though.
There is plenty of evidence that Congressional leaders in both parties
were convinced of a potential threat by Iraq, even before Bush.

Just curious, from what we were told then, do you think the potential
threat justified a war? In hindsight, this war? For me, a nuclear armed
Saddam would have been cause. But, I'm old school. War is the last
resort. Even now, it seems it was the first resort for Bush.

Ask the UN?

[HK]

thunder wrote:
On Fri, 22 May 2009 07:17:41 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


I still don't buy all the "lying to get us into a war" rhetoric though.
There is plenty of evidence that Congressional leaders in both parties
were convinced of a potential threat by Iraq, even before Bush.

Just curious, from what we were told then, do you think the potential
threat justified a war? In hindsight, this war? For me, a nuclear armed
Saddam would have been cause. But, I'm old school. War is the last
resort. Even now, it seems it was the first resort for Bush.


Not if you have the sort of political "base" Bush had.

[HK]

BAR wrote:
Jim22208 wrote:
HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...

This sends me and I aim to **** and moan right back at the idiots
who've prejudged everything Obama has done without seeing any
results.

Some of us can read a road map. We don't need to be there to
recognize the ultimate destination.

Eisboch

You were silent when Bush drove this country over a cliff.

Not so. I voted for Bush over Gore in his first term election, and
I certainly didn't vote for Kerry.
However, as events evolved, I think I expressed disappointment with
many of Bush's policies and decisions.
I even admitted that I didn't think he was the brightest bulb in
the draw.

I still don't buy all the "lying to get us into a war" rhetoric
though. There is plenty of evidence that Congressional leaders in
both parties were convinced of a potential threat by Iraq, even
before Bush. That history cannot be changed. Those that sounded
the battle cries and then changed their mind later are all forgiven
by the left. Those who had to make the decisions are held
accountable and therefore get all the blame.

I even offered comments of respect for Obama, both pre and post
election. I thought he would be especially good for the country in
the repair of global relations matters. Still do, to a degree.
But his domestic social and economic ideas and policies disturb me
greatly, and the more he talks the more disturbed I become.
Radical changes are being pushed that go beyond fixing greed,
dishonest companies, banks or Wall Street. Those issues should be
addressed and fixed, but not at the cost of changing the basic
social and economic structure of the country.

So, I don't preach the latest round of political talking points
like you. I think for myself.

Eisboch


The reply to your well written post will be, Bush did this and Bush
did that.

Gotta stop living in the past and move on. We're in deep doo-doo.


It is important to drive home again and again and again just who
pushed this country over a cliff. It was...the Republicans and Bush.

Thank you.

That's not really going to help with anything. Do you have anything
else on your mind that's important?

Krause is too funny. Let him keep beating the war drums. Don't tell him
that his side won Congress and the Presidency and they now have to
actually do something besides complain.


It's the GOP that's complaining, **** for brains.

[jps]

On Fri, 22 May 2009 03:53:21 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .


This sends me and I aim to **** and moan right back at the idiots
who've prejudged everything Obama has done without seeing any results.


Some of us can read a road map. We don't need to be there to recognize the
ultimate destination.

Eisboch

How were your mapping skills working in 2001, 2002 and 2003?

Did you foresee the ******** we'd be in?

[jps]

On Fri, 22 May 2009 07:17:41 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...


This sends me and I aim to **** and moan right back at the idiots
who've prejudged everything Obama has done without seeing any results.


Some of us can read a road map. We don't need to be there to recognize
the ultimate destination.

Eisboch


You were silent when Bush drove this country over a cliff.


Not so. I voted for Bush over Gore in his first term election, and I
certainly didn't vote for Kerry.
However, as events evolved, I think I expressed disappointment with many of
Bush's policies and decisions.
I even admitted that I didn't think he was the brightest bulb in the draw.

Then your map reading skills aren't so sharp, eh?

You think the country is better off having had GW Bush for a president
vs. Gore or Kerry?

I'd say your map reading skills are for ...

[jps]

On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:26:28 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

jps wrote:


This sends me and I aim to **** and moan right back at the idiots
who've prejudged everything Obama has done without seeing any results.

That includes a good many of the righties in rec.boats.

I would guess that Harry Krause has done more for the Republicans than
any other one person.

Do you wear kaleidoscope glasses or have a drug or drinking habit?

No one in their right mind would make the above statement without
knowing that they were full of ****.

You do, don't you?

[Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_5_]]

jps wrote:
On Fri, 22 May 2009 08:26:28 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

jps wrote:

This sends me and I aim to **** and moan right back at the idiots
who've prejudged everything Obama has done without seeing any results.

That includes a good many of the righties in rec.boats.
I would guess that Harry Krause has done more for the Republicans than
any other one person.

Do you wear kaleidoscope glasses or have a drug or drinking habit?

No one in their right mind would make the above statement without
knowing that they were full of ****.

You do, don't you?

Let me rephrase that statement, Harry has done more for the Republican
party among those independents who read rec.boats than anyone.

--
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.

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