I blame Scot...
 

On May 23, 3:49*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"jps" wrote in message

...





On Fri, 22 May 2009 21:46:19 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I NEVER shop at walmart, the official retailer of the RNC and
"Conservatives."

Honda, assembled in America. *Not manufactured in America.

I little research would help keep you from embarassing yourself...

LINCOLN, Ala. * - The all-new, Alabama-built 2009 Honda Pilot arrives
at Honda dealerships nationwide today, marking the start of customer
sales of the innovative sport utility vehicle made only at Honda
Manufacturing of Alabama (HMA).

"Today, Honda customers can now share the pride that our 4,500
associates have in building and producing the 2009 Honda Pilot," said
Mike Oatridge, vice president at Honda's Alabama facility. "After
years of research, design and testing, the new Pilot is ready to meet
the challenge of our competition and exceed the expectations of Honda
customers."

Honda's Lincoln facility is the exclusive global production source of
both the Pilot and the Odyssey minivan. The Lincoln plant also
produces the V-6 engines for each *vehicle. Exclusive production of
the 2009 Pilot began on April 15, 2008.

Another source:

Honda, the most fuel efficient car company in America, began
operations in the U.S. in 1959 with the establishment of American
Honda Motor Co., Inc., Honda's first overseas subsidiary. Honda now
employs more than 35,000 associates in North America. Honda currently
has 14 manufacturing plants in North America, producing automobiles,
light trucks, motorcycles, all-terrain vehicles, personal watercraft,
engines, transmissions and other components. Nearly 8 of 10 Honda and
Acura cars and light trucks sold in America are assembled in North
America as well. Many of these products are now designed and developed
at one of Honda's U.S. R&D centers. Honda annually purchases more than
$17 billion in parts and materials from suppliers in North America.

And another:

Honda also recognized 60 of its suppliers for their top performance
last year in the critical areas of quality, on-time parts delivery and
productivity improvements, including 12 in Ohio. With one triple and
10 double award recipients, Honda presented 72 awards to its North
American parts suppliers.

"Nearly 8 of 10 Honda and Acura cars and light trucks sold in America are
assembled in North America as well"

The parts come in and are assembled here. *My wife's Toyota Venza states on
the window sticker, 80% manufactured outside the USA. *The building of those
parts are not here. *The assembling is.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So the UAW is composed of a bunch of guys putting square pegs in
square holes for 90 bucks an hour?

I blame Scot...
 

I blame Scot...
 

On May 24, 8:11*pm, HK wrote:
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
om...
jps wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2009 13:53:05 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:06:53 -0700, jps wrote:

I'm not convinced that US manufacturers have the hybrid down but I'm
open to it. *I'd like to support a US manufacturer if I can find a
quality product.
I've never had that problem.
"Quality" means different things to different people.
Foreign-car buyers are what they are.
They'll always find something wrong with the "American" product.
Nature of the beast.
You want to divorce your wife, there's always an excuse.
She cuts the bologna too thick. *That'll do.
Just my observation. But since I never put much money in a car, and
never bought
a new one, I'm sure as hell not going to tell anybody else how to
spend their money.
--Vic
Cars have always been a thing for me. *First car was a '61 VW with a
blown engine. *$100. *Rebuilt the engine for a couple hundred more in
parts and had a car. *Ended up working on cars for a living for a few
years between stints at college.

I've been through 20 cars in 35 years. *I have an appreciation for
well-built vehicles and a distain for poor engineering/execution. *My
weakness for badly executed vehilcles were the MGs and Austins.

Still do all our maintenance (for what's not factory covered). *It's
the same bliss I feel working on a boat. *"Cruising is working on your
boat in exotic locations" fits perfectly.

I had an MGA. Lovely looking car, really. Fabulous lines. Nice to drive,
but a real p.o.s. *Of course, it had a kazillion millions on it when I
bought it.

I've been looking for a new "road car," and so far, I've not found
anything that compete with some of the Japanese brands. Took a look at a
new "5" series BMW and a couple of Audis, but they didn't do much for me.

I've been watching a bit of the Indy 500 today (speaking of cars), and I
was delighted to see how far Danica Patrick has come. Next year may be
*her* year at Indy.

Would she be the first woman to win?
That sure would drive the good 'ole boys crazy.

Well, the Indy has a slightly different audience than redneck racing,
but, yes, if she won (she would be the first woman to do so), it would
cause apoplexy among some men.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Poor dumb Harry. Everyone here that knows about racing, understands
that as usual, Harry is sticking his nose where it doesn't belong. Gee
being an alleged mechanical engineer, you'd think he'd know that
Sprint cup racing attracts some of the best engineers, scientists and
craftsmen in the U.S. Every part has gone through thorough and
meticulous design and testing. Comparing Sprint series owners builders
and drivers to "rednecks" (Harry's bigoted term) is just plain stupid.
It's akin to comparing aerospace engineers to janitors.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...s/1336277.html

http://www.digitalcad.com/Htm/FieldReports/nascar.htm

http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/opin...ter/index.html

I blame Scot...
 

On May 24, 7:42*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

m...





jps wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2009 13:53:05 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:06:53 -0700, jps wrote:

I'm not convinced that US manufacturers have the hybrid down but I'm
open to it. *I'd like to support a US manufacturer if I can find a
quality product.
I've never had that problem.
"Quality" means different things to different people.
Foreign-car buyers are what they are.
They'll always find something wrong with the "American" product.
Nature of the beast.
You want to divorce your wife, there's always an excuse.
She cuts the bologna too thick. *That'll do.
Just my observation. But since I never put much money in a car, and
never bought
a new one, I'm sure as hell not going to tell anybody else how to
spend their money.
--Vic

Cars have always been a thing for me. *First car was a '61 VW with a
blown engine. *$100. *Rebuilt the engine for a couple hundred more in
parts and had a car. *Ended up working on cars for a living for a few
years between stints at college.

I've been through 20 cars in 35 years. *I have an appreciation for
well-built vehicles and a distain for poor engineering/execution. *My
weakness for badly executed vehilcles were the MGs and Austins.

Still do all our maintenance (for what's not factory covered). *It's
the same bliss I feel working on a boat. *"Cruising is working on your
boat in exotic locations" fits perfectly.

I had an MGA. Lovely looking car, really. Fabulous lines. Nice to drive,
but a real p.o.s. *Of course, it had a kazillion millions on it when I
bought it.

I've been looking for a new "road car," and so far, I've not found
anything that compete with some of the Japanese brands. Took a look at a
new "5" series BMW and a couple of Audis, but they didn't do much for me.

I've been watching a bit of the Indy 500 today (speaking of cars), and I
was delighted to see how far Danica Patrick has come. Next year may be
*her* year at Indy.

Would she be the first woman to win?
That sure would drive the good 'ole boys crazy.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Why?

I blame Scot...
 

On Mon, 25 May 2009 09:57:52 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Gee - being an alleged mechanical enginee

Who?

I blame Scot...
 

On May 25, 12:57*pm, wrote:
On May 24, 8:11*pm, HK wrote:





Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
om...
jps wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2009 13:53:05 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:06:53 -0700, jps wrote:

I'm not convinced that US manufacturers have the hybrid down but I'm
open to it. *I'd like to support a US manufacturer if I can find a
quality product.
I've never had that problem.
"Quality" means different things to different people.
Foreign-car buyers are what they are.
They'll always find something wrong with the "American" product.
Nature of the beast.
You want to divorce your wife, there's always an excuse.
She cuts the bologna too thick. *That'll do.
Just my observation. But since I never put much money in a car, and
never bought
a new one, I'm sure as hell not going to tell anybody else how to
spend their money.
--Vic
Cars have always been a thing for me. *First car was a '61 VW with a
blown engine. *$100. *Rebuilt the engine for a couple hundred more in
parts and had a car. *Ended up working on cars for a living for a few
years between stints at college.

I've been through 20 cars in 35 years. *I have an appreciation for
well-built vehicles and a distain for poor engineering/execution. *My
weakness for badly executed vehilcles were the MGs and Austins.

Still do all our maintenance (for what's not factory covered). *It's
the same bliss I feel working on a boat. *"Cruising is working on your
boat in exotic locations" fits perfectly.

I had an MGA. Lovely looking car, really. Fabulous lines. Nice to drive,
but a real p.o.s. *Of course, it had a kazillion millions on it when I
bought it.

I've been looking for a new "road car," and so far, I've not found
anything that compete with some of the Japanese brands. Took a look at a
new "5" series BMW and a couple of Audis, but they didn't do much for me.

I've been watching a bit of the Indy 500 today (speaking of cars), and I
was delighted to see how far Danica Patrick has come. Next year may be
*her* year at Indy.

Would she be the first woman to win?
That sure would drive the good 'ole boys crazy.

Well, the Indy has a slightly different audience than redneck racing,
but, yes, if she won (she would be the first woman to do so), it would
cause apoplexy among some men.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Poor dumb Harry. Everyone here that knows about racing, understands
that as usual, Harry is sticking his nose where it doesn't belong. Gee
being an alleged mechanical engineer, you'd think he'd know that
Sprint cup racing attracts some of the best engineers, scientists and
craftsmen in the U.S. Every part has gone through thorough and
meticulous design and testing. Comparing Sprint series owners builders
and drivers to "rednecks" (Harry's bigoted term) is just plain stupid.
It's akin to comparing aerospace engineers to janitors.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...s/1336277.html

http://www.digitalcad.com/Htm/FieldReports/nascar.htm

http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/opin...s.wind.tun...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I am a NASCAR fan, but I have been to Indy for the 500 more than any
other track I have visited.. Indy is great, everyone should experience
it at least once. Go a couple days early, camp in the field next to
the facility or in the yard of any one of hundreds who rent space out,
watch your car, provide utilities etc for a price... Then go see one
of the local State Troopers (very cool in the bear hats and brown
uniforms) and have them point you to the best scalpers. Scalping is
legal, we have never paid more than 65 dollars for the 45 dollar
tickets in the paddock area where we like to sit.. Anyway, Happy
Memorial day guys, The Mouse took a fifth place the first day and an
eigth on Sunday at Winchester Speed Park in Winchester NH, see you all
later, pics to follow..

Rowdy Mouse Racing, we race for cheese!

I blame Scot...
 

wrote:
On May 25, 12:57 pm, wrote:
On May 24, 8:11 pm, HK wrote:





Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
jps wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2009 13:53:05 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:06:53 -0700, jps wrote:
I'm not convinced that US manufacturers have the hybrid down but I'm
open to it. I'd like to support a US manufacturer if I can find a
quality product.
I've never had that problem.
"Quality" means different things to different people.
Foreign-car buyers are what they are.
They'll always find something wrong with the "American" product.
Nature of the beast.
You want to divorce your wife, there's always an excuse.
She cuts the bologna too thick. That'll do.
Just my observation. But since I never put much money in a car, and
never bought
a new one, I'm sure as hell not going to tell anybody else how to
spend their money.
--Vic
Cars have always been a thing for me. First car was a '61 VW with a
blown engine. $100. Rebuilt the engine for a couple hundred more in
parts and had a car. Ended up working on cars for a living for a few
years between stints at college.
I've been through 20 cars in 35 years. I have an appreciation for
well-built vehicles and a distain for poor engineering/execution. My
weakness for badly executed vehilcles were the MGs and Austins.
Still do all our maintenance (for what's not factory covered). It's
the same bliss I feel working on a boat. "Cruising is working on your
boat in exotic locations" fits perfectly.
I had an MGA. Lovely looking car, really. Fabulous lines. Nice to drive,
but a real p.o.s. Of course, it had a kazillion millions on it when I
bought it.
I've been looking for a new "road car," and so far, I've not found
anything that compete with some of the Japanese brands. Took a look at a
new "5" series BMW and a couple of Audis, but they didn't do much for me.
I've been watching a bit of the Indy 500 today (speaking of cars), and I
was delighted to see how far Danica Patrick has come. Next year may be
*her* year at Indy.
Would she be the first woman to win?
That sure would drive the good 'ole boys crazy.
Well, the Indy has a slightly different audience than redneck racing,
but, yes, if she won (she would be the first woman to do so), it would
cause apoplexy among some men.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Poor dumb Harry. Everyone here that knows about racing, understands
that as usual, Harry is sticking his nose where it doesn't belong. Gee
being an alleged mechanical engineer, you'd think he'd know that
Sprint cup racing attracts some of the best engineers, scientists and
craftsmen in the U.S. Every part has gone through thorough and
meticulous design and testing. Comparing Sprint series owners builders
and drivers to "rednecks" (Harry's bigoted term) is just plain stupid.
It's akin to comparing aerospace engineers to janitors.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...s/1336277.html

http://www.digitalcad.com/Htm/FieldReports/nascar.htm

http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/opin...s.wind.tun...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I am a NASCAR fan, but I have been to Indy for the 500 more than any
other track I have visited.. Indy is great, everyone should experience
it at least once. Go a couple days early, camp in the field next to
the facility or in the yard of any one of hundreds who rent space out,
watch your car, provide utilities etc for a price... Then go see one
of the local State Troopers (very cool in the bear hats and brown
uniforms) and have them point you to the best scalpers. Scalping is
legal, we have never paid more than 65 dollars for the 45 dollar
tickets in the paddock area where we like to sit.. Anyway, Happy
Memorial day guys, The Mouse took a fifth place the first day and an
eigth on Sunday at Winchester Speed Park in Winchester NH, see you all
later, pics to follow..

Rowdy Mouse Racing, we race for cheese!


Dumber-than-an-idiot Loogy thinks I am a mechanical engineer? That's
hilarious. I did take a couple of engineering courses while we lived in
Florida, but I'm not an engineer and I don't play one on usenet, as
dumber-than-an-idiot tries to do.

The Indy race is the greatest sports spectacle in the United States.
Indianapolis, however, is one sickeningly conservative, boring city.

I blame Scot...
 

On May 25, 6:57*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On May 25, 12:57 pm, wrote:
On May 24, 8:11 pm, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
news:yOqdnYxVneAcMoTXnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@earthlin k.com...
jps wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2009 13:53:05 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:06:53 -0700, jps wrote:
I'm not convinced that US manufacturers have the hybrid down but I'm
open to it. *I'd like to support a US manufacturer if I can find a
quality product.
I've never had that problem.
"Quality" means different things to different people.
Foreign-car buyers are what they are.
They'll always find something wrong with the "American" product.
Nature of the beast.
You want to divorce your wife, there's always an excuse.
She cuts the bologna too thick. *That'll do.
Just my observation. But since I never put much money in a car, and
never bought
a new one, I'm sure as hell not going to tell anybody else how to
spend their money.
--Vic
Cars have always been a thing for me. *First car was a '61 VW with a
blown engine. *$100. *Rebuilt the engine for a couple hundred more in
parts and had a car. *Ended up working on cars for a living for a few
years between stints at college.
I've been through 20 cars in 35 years. *I have an appreciation for
well-built vehicles and a distain for poor engineering/execution. *My
weakness for badly executed vehilcles were the MGs and Austins.
Still do all our maintenance (for what's not factory covered). *It's
the same bliss I feel working on a boat. *"Cruising is working on your
boat in exotic locations" fits perfectly.
I had an MGA. Lovely looking car, really. Fabulous lines. Nice to drive,
but a real p.o.s. *Of course, it had a kazillion millions on it when I
bought it.
I've been looking for a new "road car," and so far, I've not found
anything that compete with some of the Japanese brands. Took a look at a
new "5" series BMW and a couple of Audis, but they didn't do much for me.
I've been watching a bit of the Indy 500 today (speaking of cars), and I
was delighted to see how far Danica Patrick has come. Next year may be
*her* year at Indy.
Would she be the first woman to win?
That sure would drive the good 'ole boys crazy.
Well, the Indy has a slightly different audience than redneck racing,
but, yes, if she won (she would be the first woman to do so), it would
cause apoplexy among some men.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Poor dumb Harry. Everyone here that knows about racing, understands
that as usual, Harry is sticking his nose where it doesn't belong. Gee
being an alleged mechanical engineer, you'd think he'd know that
Sprint cup racing attracts some of the best engineers, scientists and
craftsmen in the U.S. Every part has gone through thorough and
meticulous design and testing. Comparing Sprint series owners builders
and drivers to "rednecks" (Harry's bigoted term) is just plain stupid.
It's akin to comparing aerospace engineers to janitors.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...s/1336277.html

http://www.digitalcad.com/Htm/FieldReports/nascar.htm

http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/opin...nd.tun....Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I am a NASCAR fan, but I have been to Indy for the 500 more than any
other track I have visited.. Indy is great, everyone should experience
it at least once. Go a couple days early, camp in the field next to
the facility or in the yard of any one of hundreds who rent space out,
watch your car, provide utilities etc for a price... Then go see one
of the local State Troopers (very cool in the bear hats and brown
uniforms) and have them point you to the best scalpers. Scalping is
legal, we have never paid more than 65 dollars for the 45 dollar
tickets in the paddock area where we like to sit.. *Anyway, Happy
Memorial day guys, The Mouse took a fifth place the first day and an
eigth on Sunday at Winchester Speed Park in Winchester NH, see you all
later, pics to follow..

Rowdy Mouse Racing, we race for cheese!

Dumber-than-an-idiot Loogy thinks I am a mechanical engineer? That's
hilarious. I did take a couple of engineering courses while we lived in
Florida, but I'm not an engineer and I don't play one on usenet, as
dumber-than-an-idiot tries to do.

The Indy race is the greatest sports spectacle in the United States.
Indianapolis, however, is one sickeningly conservative, boring city.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Who the f**k cares what you think of Indy? You just make it up as you
go along, you have probably never even been there, WAFA

I blame Scot...
 

I blame Scot...
 

On May 25, 9:53*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On May 25, 6:57 pm, HK wrote:

The Indy race is the greatest sports spectacle in the United States.
Indianapolis, however, is one sickeningly conservative, boring city.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Who the f**k cares what you think of Indy? You just make it up as you
go along, you have probably never even been there, WAFA

Actually, crap-for-brains, I have been to Indianapolis at least a dozen
times in my lifetime. I've always had the same opinion of the city.
Obviously, *you* care what I think...or is it that I do think, which is
something you obviously cannot do?

Lobsta' Boat as usual...