I blame Scot...
 

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...


I've been looking for a new "road car," and so far, I've not found
anything that compete with some of the Japanese brands. Took a look at
a new "5" series BMW and a couple of Audis, but they didn't do much
for me.



Pound for pound, buck for buck, the BMW 5 series is one of the finest
automobiles being built.
And Audi isn't bad either.

Eisboch





Buck for buck, the BMW "5" series seems overpriced for what you get. I
took a look at a 535, but I was more impressed by a Lexus GS09. My
sister-in-law has an Audi A5 that I've driven. Nice car. But I still
like the Lexus better.

I blame Scot...
 

On Sun, 24 May 2009 18:20:22 -0400, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...


I've been looking for a new "road car," and so far, I've not found
anything that compete with some of the Japanese brands. Took a look at
a new "5" series BMW and a couple of Audis, but they didn't do much
for me.



Pound for pound, buck for buck, the BMW 5 series is one of the finest
automobiles being built.
And Audi isn't bad either.

Eisboch


Buck for buck, the BMW "5" series seems overpriced for what you get. I
took a look at a 535, but I was more impressed by a Lexus GS09. My
sister-in-law has an Audi A5 that I've driven. Nice car. But I still
like the Lexus better.


After two late model Audis, I would never buy anything that isn't all
wheel drive. Comes in very handy in the NW. Brought a 5 series from
California when my wife and I moved back to Seattle and the damn thing
wouldn't go up a 2% grade in snow.

Now have a AWD BMW that goes through pretty much anything.

Both the 5 series and A6 have gone stratospheric on price. They used
to be much more reasonable.

Probably both excellent buys if you let someone else pay the first
couple of years of depreciation.

I blame Scot...
 

"HK" wrote in message
m...
jps wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2009 13:53:05 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:06:53 -0700, jps wrote:


I'm not convinced that US manufacturers have the hybrid down but I'm
open to it. I'd like to support a US manufacturer if I can find a
quality product.
I've never had that problem.
"Quality" means different things to different people.
Foreign-car buyers are what they are.
They'll always find something wrong with the "American" product.
Nature of the beast.
You want to divorce your wife, there's always an excuse.
She cuts the bologna too thick. That'll do.
Just my observation. But since I never put much money in a car, and
never bought
a new one, I'm sure as hell not going to tell anybody else how to
spend their money.
--Vic

Cars have always been a thing for me. First car was a '61 VW with a
blown engine. $100. Rebuilt the engine for a couple hundred more in
parts and had a car. Ended up working on cars for a living for a few
years between stints at college.

I've been through 20 cars in 35 years. I have an appreciation for
well-built vehicles and a distain for poor engineering/execution. My
weakness for badly executed vehilcles were the MGs and Austins.

Still do all our maintenance (for what's not factory covered). It's
the same bliss I feel working on a boat. "Cruising is working on your
boat in exotic locations" fits perfectly.


I had an MGA. Lovely looking car, really. Fabulous lines. Nice to drive,
but a real p.o.s. Of course, it had a kazillion millions on it when I
bought it.

I've been looking for a new "road car," and so far, I've not found
anything that compete with some of the Japanese brands. Took a look at a
new "5" series BMW and a couple of Audis, but they didn't do much for me.

I've been watching a bit of the Indy 500 today (speaking of cars), and I
was delighted to see how far Danica Patrick has come. Next year may be
*her* year at Indy.


Would she be the first woman to win?
That sure would drive the good 'ole boys crazy.

I blame Scot...
 

Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
jps wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2009 13:53:05 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:06:53 -0700, jps wrote:


I'm not convinced that US manufacturers have the hybrid down but I'm
open to it. I'd like to support a US manufacturer if I can find a
quality product.
I've never had that problem.
"Quality" means different things to different people.
Foreign-car buyers are what they are.
They'll always find something wrong with the "American" product.
Nature of the beast.
You want to divorce your wife, there's always an excuse.
She cuts the bologna too thick. That'll do.
Just my observation. But since I never put much money in a car, and
never bought
a new one, I'm sure as hell not going to tell anybody else how to
spend their money.
--Vic
Cars have always been a thing for me. First car was a '61 VW with a
blown engine. $100. Rebuilt the engine for a couple hundred more in
parts and had a car. Ended up working on cars for a living for a few
years between stints at college.

I've been through 20 cars in 35 years. I have an appreciation for
well-built vehicles and a distain for poor engineering/execution. My
weakness for badly executed vehilcles were the MGs and Austins.

Still do all our maintenance (for what's not factory covered). It's
the same bliss I feel working on a boat. "Cruising is working on your
boat in exotic locations" fits perfectly.

I had an MGA. Lovely looking car, really. Fabulous lines. Nice to drive,
but a real p.o.s. Of course, it had a kazillion millions on it when I
bought it.

I've been looking for a new "road car," and so far, I've not found
anything that compete with some of the Japanese brands. Took a look at a
new "5" series BMW and a couple of Audis, but they didn't do much for me.

I've been watching a bit of the Indy 500 today (speaking of cars), and I
was delighted to see how far Danica Patrick has come. Next year may be
*her* year at Indy.


Would she be the first woman to win?
That sure would drive the good 'ole boys crazy.




Well, the Indy has a slightly different audience than redneck racing,
but, yes, if she won (she would be the first woman to do so), it would
cause apoplexy among some men.

I blame Scot...
 

jps wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 19:38:57 -0400, D K
wrote:

jps wrote:

Harry and JPS. Two peas in a pod.
Two assholes spooning in a pod.
And you and John make such a nice couple. Dick and ****.

I buy American when possible. Our latest auto is a Honda Pilot,
which was manufactured in the US. I'm turning my BMW in this
September and considering what's next. Maybe a hybrid.

I NEVER shop at walmart, the official retailer of the RNC and
"Conservatives."
My 2001 Acura MDX, and the early Honda Pilots, were assembled in Quebec.
Evidently they moved production to the US.

Both of my current BMW's were assembled in South Carolina.

They are still foreign cars so what's your point?

Be careful when you buy that "American" hybrid - if may have come from
Mexico, or ???

OMG, more than "yes you are, no I'm not." I'm in shock.

WTF those that mean?

I blame Scot...
 

jps wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2009 13:53:05 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:06:53 -0700, jps wrote:


I'm not convinced that US manufacturers have the hybrid down but I'm
open to it. I'd like to support a US manufacturer if I can find a
quality product.
I've never had that problem.
"Quality" means different things to different people.
Foreign-car buyers are what they are.
They'll always find something wrong with the "American" product.
Nature of the beast.
You want to divorce your wife, there's always an excuse.
She cuts the bologna too thick. That'll do.
Just my observation.
But since I never put much money in a car, and never bought
a new one, I'm sure as hell not going to tell anybody else how to
spend their money.

--Vic

Cars have always been a thing for me. First car was a '61 VW with a
blown engine. $100. Rebuilt the engine for a couple hundred more in
parts and had a car. Ended up working on cars for a living for a few
years between stints at college.

I've been through 20 cars in 35 years. I have an appreciation for
well-built vehicles and a distain for poor engineering/execution. My
weakness for badly executed vehilcles were the MGs and Austins.

Still do all our maintenance (for what's not factory covered). It's
the same bliss I feel working on a boat.

"Cruising is working on your boat in exotic locations" fits perfectly.

"A" boat or "your" boat? Do you even own a boat?

I blame Scot...
 

On Sun, 24 May 2009 20:43:38 -0400, D K
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2009 13:53:05 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:06:53 -0700, jps wrote:


I'm not convinced that US manufacturers have the hybrid down but I'm
open to it. I'd like to support a US manufacturer if I can find a
quality product.
I've never had that problem.
"Quality" means different things to different people.
Foreign-car buyers are what they are.
They'll always find something wrong with the "American" product.
Nature of the beast.
You want to divorce your wife, there's always an excuse.
She cuts the bologna too thick. That'll do.
Just my observation.
But since I never put much money in a car, and never bought
a new one, I'm sure as hell not going to tell anybody else how to
spend their money.

--Vic

Cars have always been a thing for me. First car was a '61 VW with a
blown engine. $100. Rebuilt the engine for a couple hundred more in
parts and had a car. Ended up working on cars for a living for a few
years between stints at college.

I've been through 20 cars in 35 years. I have an appreciation for
well-built vehicles and a distain for poor engineering/execution. My
weakness for badly executed vehilcles were the MGs and Austins.

Still do all our maintenance (for what's not factory covered). It's
the same bliss I feel working on a boat.

"Cruising is working on your boat in exotic locations" fits perfectly.

"A" boat or "your" boat? Do you even own a boat?

SOLD but kept the BW dink for the next acquisition. 40' Tolly
Sundeck. That's how I met Chuck Gould. He was a broker at the time
but I ended up finding the vessel I wanted in British Columbia. I'd
like to move to a 44' but cannot justify the expense now, too many
other priorities on the plate. Once I'm in the clear with kids
college and retirement, I intend to take the plunge if fuel hasn't
risen to the stock price of GE. Moorage, insurance and maintenance
costs are enough without having to pour $1500 into the fuel tanks each
cruise. I may end up chartering or go in partners or invest in a time
share or maybe a small Taiwanese single-screw trawler if the dream
boat remains to expensive for our budget.

I blame Scot...
 

On Sun, 24 May 2009 20:41:48 -0400, D K
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 19:38:57 -0400, D K
wrote:

jps wrote:

Harry and JPS. Two peas in a pod.
Two assholes spooning in a pod.
And you and John make such a nice couple. Dick and ****.

I buy American when possible. Our latest auto is a Honda Pilot,
which was manufactured in the US. I'm turning my BMW in this
September and considering what's next. Maybe a hybrid.

I NEVER shop at walmart, the official retailer of the RNC and
"Conservatives."
My 2001 Acura MDX, and the early Honda Pilots, were assembled in Quebec.
Evidently they moved production to the US.

Both of my current BMW's were assembled in South Carolina.

They are still foreign cars so what's your point?

Be careful when you buy that "American" hybrid - if may have come from
Mexico, or ???

OMG, more than "yes you are, no I'm not." I'm in shock.

WTF those that mean?

If you don't understand it won't do any good to explain.

I blame Scot...
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
m...


I've been looking for a new "road car," and so far, I've not found
anything that compete with some of the Japanese brands. Took a look at a
new "5" series BMW and a couple of Audis, but they didn't do much for me.



Pound for pound, buck for buck, the BMW 5 series is one of the finest
automobiles being built.
And Audi isn't bad either.

Eisboch



Then how come they can not get the turn signals to work? :}

I blame Scot...
 

On May 24, 5:44*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

m...



I've been looking for a new "road car," and so far, I've not found
anything that compete with some of the Japanese brands. Took a look at a
new "5" series BMW and a couple of Audis, but they didn't do much for me.

Pound for pound, buck for buck, the BMW 5 series is one of the finest
automobiles being built.
And Audi isn't bad either.

Eisboch

I recently got rid of my Boxster and bought an Audi A6 Quattro. I
needed back seats, and based on the A6 my wife had for a while
(company car) I really liked the Audi. It's probably the safest car
on the road, and is still fun to drive.

She's in a Lexus 460 right now. Luxury, comfort, power, bells &
whistles it has, but no soul. It's like driving your sofa down the
road.

The president of the company I work for races Porsches, and is a car
guy. He's had BMW's, Porsche's and Audi's. He drove an Acura RL for
a while, and complained about it being no fun. He's back in an
Audi... an S6 with the V10. That's one bad-assed car. :-)