On May 18, 9:31*pm, Rabid Weasel Lawson law...@NO11707SPAM
+dayton.net wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2009 13:45:54 -0700, TravIsGod wrote:
too late how? *There's about 200 million guns in America in private
hands. *Americans can raise a civilian army of probably close to 100
million people. *So it's never too late. *Our standing Army is about
half that, and if there was a revolution probably well more than half
of those would desert and fight for The People. *

No they wouldn't. *They would respond with crushing force to any
revolt and with weaponry that is light years beyond what civilians
have. *They would obey orders without question and "do their jobs"
just like the police do when they mow down civilians. *They never
apologize. *The military is littered with people who enlisted because
they wanted to kill people. *Do you honestly think they give a ****
about Constitutional Law and these principles?

I mean you saw that AA-12 auto shotgun didn't you? *You think a bunch
of lousy hunting rifles are going to stand up to fully armored marines
packing **** like that with frag rounds or something in it? *You can
barely blow up a humvee anymore with a freaking shaped charge IED, wtf
is the civilian populace going to do against the tactics and materiel
of the armed forces? *Paramilitary forces like the police or SWAT,
perhaps, but the regular army? *After what they've learned in
counterinsurgency in Iraq, you seriously think any militia here has a
****ing chance in hell?

When I brought up a similar argument on another forum, besides the claim
of mass defection among the military, one of the things that was
suggested was supply lines.

In the U.S. campaigns in other nations, the Military is supplied by a
friendly and cooperative civilian infrastructure at home in the U.S. *The
argument was made that a despotic, tyrannical, Military would be
immediately deprived of its support infrastructure here in the U.S. and
would only be able to continue operations until food and ammo ran out.

Whoever said that needs to examine the history of civilian revolts in
other despotic nations.

Trav

On 2009-05-18 23:00:11 -0400, TravIsGod said:

Whoever said that needs to examine the history of civilian revolts in
other despotic nations.

Like the way the Indians fought back the insurgents?

--
"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in
England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after
all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it
is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a
democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist
dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to
the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL
THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of
patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY
COUNTRY."
*
--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials