"D K" wrote in message
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Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 18:54:09 -0400, D K
wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 12:38:05 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene -

Any ideas where I can find a pair of *quality* battery clips to attach
to my existing battery charger? Probably 12 gauge wire to the charger,
need oversized clips to attach to the battery lugs. I've about
exhausted the hardware/electrical outlets in this area.

Thanks...hk
Here's a start:
http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts-kws...tor-heavy-duty
12ga on the battery side?

12 ga. at 10 feet is only good for about 15A....

The extension cord manufacturers show different results...

http://colemancable.com/CatalogProdu...ProductsID=156

Think DC not AC.

On May 23, 11:38*am, HK wrote:
Gene -

Any ideas where I can find a pair of *quality* battery clips to attach
to my existing battery charger? Probably 12 gauge wire to the charger,
need oversized clips to attach to the battery lugs. I've about exhausted
the hardware/electrical outlets in this area.

Thanks...hk

Think "Vise Grips", Herr Krause.

"Vise Grips" are the heavy duty all purpose battery clamps that even
you might be able to figure out how to operate.

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On Sun, 24 May 2009 20:36:01 -0400, D K
wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 18:54:09 -0400, D K
wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 12:38:05 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene -

Any ideas where I can find a pair of *quality* battery clips to
attach
to my existing battery charger? Probably 12 gauge wire to the
charger,
need oversized clips to attach to the battery lugs. I've about
exhausted
the hardware/electrical outlets in this area.

Thanks...hk
Here's a start:
http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts-kws...tor-heavy-duty
12ga on the battery side?

12 ga. at 10 feet is only good for about 15A....

The extension cord manufacturers show different results...

http://colemancable.com/CatalogProdu...ProductsID=156


10 feet of 12ga stranded copper will drop 0.59v at 15a.

When that is deducted from 120v it is fairly insignificant but it is
4.9% of your 12 volts.

Based on a 12AWG stranded wire resistance of 0.00159 ohms per foot, the
voltage drop would be 0.225 volts.

There maybe a few more 10ths volt drop depending on the integrity of the
clamp's connection to the battery.

wrote:
On May 23, 11:38 am, HK wrote:
Gene -

Any ideas where I can find a pair of *quality* battery clips to attach
to my existing battery charger? Probably 12 gauge wire to the charger,
need oversized clips to attach to the battery lugs. I've about exhausted
the hardware/electrical outlets in this area.

Thanks...hk

Think "Vise Grips", Herr Krause.

"Vise Grips" are the heavy duty all purpose battery clamps that even
you might be able to figure out how to operate.

It's really interesting that an expert welder, as Harry has claimed to
be, doesn't know where to look for quality electrical spring clamps.

On May 25, 6:28*am, jim7856 wrote:
wrote:
On May 23, 11:38 am, HK wrote:
Gene -

Any ideas where I can find a pair of *quality* battery clips to attach
to my existing battery charger? Probably 12 gauge wire to the charger,
need oversized clips to attach to the battery lugs. I've about exhausted
the hardware/electrical outlets in this area.

Thanks...hk

Think "Vise Grips", Herr Krause.

"Vise Grips" are the heavy duty all purpose battery clamps that even
you might be able to figure out how to operate.

It's really interesting that an expert welder, as Harry has claimed to
be, doesn't know where to look for quality electrical spring clamps.

Welder
Mechanical Engineer
Yale grad
Writer
World Traveler
Competitive Sailing Captain
Photographer
Union Activist
Computer Designer
Software Expert

Is there anything that Harry isn't an expert at?
I wonder, with all of those skills, how he has any time to post here
constantly.

On Mon, 25 May 2009 12:07:19 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 25 May 2009 05:47:40 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

10 feet of 12ga stranded copper will drop 0.59v at 15a.

When that is deducted from 120v it is fairly insignificant but it is
4.9% of your 12 volts.

Based on a 12AWG stranded wire resistance of 0.00159 ohms per foot, the
voltage drop would be 0.225 volts.

There maybe a few more 10ths volt drop depending on the integrity of the
clamp's connection to the battery.



You have to get back so double that ;-)

I used a calculator based on the table in the NEC. I know the AARL
table shows lower resistance. It has to do with the temperature.

Having done more jumps than I care to remember, all I know is pay for
the heaviest jumper cables you can find. Make sure the side-mount
clips are spring-tensioned and not the slide-on type.
But I don't get why anybody would care about charger clips.
Even the lightest, cheapest feeling clips have always worked fine for
me.
In fact, that's what's on my Sears charger, maybe a 50 buck model with
2 and 10 amp modes and a "start" mode.
I've started 2 cars with virtually dead batteries using that "start"
mode and those cheap clips. No problem at all.
Charges fine on the 2-amp mode with those cheap clips too.
Never used the 10-amp.
Supposed to be automatic, but I've always unplugged it after a day
charging a depleted car battery. Don't like that humming.

--Vic

CalifBill wrote:
"D K" wrote in message
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Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 18:54:09 -0400, D K
wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 12:38:05 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene -

Any ideas where I can find a pair of *quality* battery clips to attach
to my existing battery charger? Probably 12 gauge wire to the charger,
need oversized clips to attach to the battery lugs. I've about
exhausted the hardware/electrical outlets in this area.

Thanks...hk
Here's a start:
http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts-kws...tor-heavy-duty
12ga on the battery side?
12 ga. at 10 feet is only good for about 15A....
The extension cord manufacturers show different results...

http://colemancable.com/CatalogProdu...ProductsID=156

Think DC not AC.



Good point!

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On Sun, 24 May 2009 20:36:01 -0400, D K
wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 18:54:09 -0400, D K
wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 12:38:05 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene -

Any ideas where I can find a pair of *quality* battery clips to attach
to my existing battery charger? Probably 12 gauge wire to the charger,
need oversized clips to attach to the battery lugs. I've about exhausted
the hardware/electrical outlets in this area.

Thanks...hk
Here's a start:
http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts-kws...tor-heavy-duty
12ga on the battery side?
12 ga. at 10 feet is only good for about 15A....
The extension cord manufacturers show different results...

http://colemancable.com/CatalogProdu...ProductsID=156


10 feet of 12ga stranded copper will drop 0.59v at 15a.

When that is deducted from 120v it is fairly insignificant but it is
4.9% of your 12 volts.

Yep, DC not AC. You are correct.

"CalifBill" wrote in message
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"D K" wrote in message
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Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 18:54:09 -0400, D K
wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 12:38:05 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene -

Any ideas where I can find a pair of *quality* battery clips to
attach to my existing battery charger? Probably 12 gauge wire to the
charger, need oversized clips to attach to the battery lugs. I've
about exhausted the hardware/electrical outlets in this area.

Thanks...hk
Here's a start:
http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts-kws...tor-heavy-duty
12ga on the battery side?

12 ga. at 10 feet is only good for about 15A....

The extension cord manufacturers show different results...

http://colemancable.com/CatalogProdu...ProductsID=156

Think DC not AC.


The current rating of an extension cord not only applies to the wire gauge
but the construction of the connectors.