You know they are in trouble when Fiat is getting cold feet about a merger.

Another one about to bite the dust.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

You know they are in trouble when Fiat is getting cold feet about a merger.

Another one about to bite the dust.

Eisboch


FIAT wants to bust the UAW before it'll invest in Chrysler. What we need
to do in this country is detach health benefits from employment and make
sure that private pension liabilities are fully funded. Too much cooking
of the books on the latter has resulted in workers losing earned
pensions because of bad corporate management.

On Apr 15, 8:24*am, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

You know they are in trouble when Fiat is getting cold feet about a merger.

Another one about to bite the dust.

Eisboch

FIAT wants to bust the UAW before it'll invest in Chrysler. What we need
to do in this country is detach health benefits from employment and make
sure that private pension liabilities are fully funded. Too much cooking
of the books on the latter has resulted in workers losing earned
pensions because of bad corporate management.

Too late for some of the Pension funds..... like GM. Giving high
bonuses to fat-ass Execs, instead of investing the collected Employee
funds where they BELONGED. Waggoner should pay the entire toll out of
his own pocket.
My Brother is right...think I'll buy a Hunting Rifle.
At least our shop has made the Union accountable for our pension fund.
Hugh Sawyer out of Georgia, supposedly was hired to turn our Company
around.... he accomplished Bankruptcy. The little **** wont venture
into Canada...he's a marked man.

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Eisboch wrote:

You know they are in trouble when Fiat is getting cold feet about a
merger.

Another one about to bite the dust.

Eisboch


FIAT wants to bust the UAW before it'll invest in Chrysler. What we need
to do in this country is detach health benefits from employment and make
sure that private pension liabilities are fully funded. Too much cooking
of the books on the latter has resulted in workers losing earned pensions
because of bad corporate management.

Yep, Chrysler, and GM for that mater, will both be much cheaper in chapter
7, and in chapter 7 the CAW/UAW contracts become null and void as does all
the other excessive garbage. In a chapter 7 buyout they could squish the
unions, fire the crappy managment without severance, renegotiate supply
agreements and not worry about bond holders or share holders. Nice and
clean like. Maybe even mash the two together and highest bidder gets the
lot. Possibly sell them to the Chinese government now that they have almost
$2T in cash.

But I can't see GM or Chrysler making a deal now, they are doubly bankrupt
and allowed to operate too long without meaningful changes and bankruptcy to
force the needed change. They are dog investments as they sit.

On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:11:09 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


You know they are in trouble when Fiat is getting cold feet about a merger.

Another one about to bite the dust.

Eisboch

Good troll.

Worked too!
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

John H wrote:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:11:09 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

You know they are in trouble when Fiat is getting cold feet about a merger.

Another one about to bite the dust.

Eisboch

Good troll.

Worked too!
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

Eisboch can troll with the best of em. I taught him well. ;-)

"jim78565" wrote in message
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John H wrote:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:11:09 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

You know they are in trouble when Fiat is getting cold feet about a
merger.

Another one about to bite the dust.

Eisboch

Good troll.

Worked too!
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas
Jefferson

Eisboch can troll with the best of em. I taught him well. ;-)

You taught him?
About the only things you're qualified to teach are belching & farting.

"Don White" wrote in message
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"jim78565" wrote in message
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John H wrote:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:11:09 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

You know they are in trouble when Fiat is getting cold feet about a
merger.

Another one about to bite the dust.

Eisboch

Good troll.

Worked too!
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas
Jefferson

Eisboch can troll with the best of em. I taught him well. ;-)

You taught him?
About the only things you're qualified to teach are belching & farting.


No. I taught *him* those talents.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"jim78565" wrote in message
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John H wrote:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:11:09 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

You know they are in trouble when Fiat is getting cold feet about a
merger.

Another one about to bite the dust.

Eisboch

Good troll.

Worked too!
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas
Jefferson

Eisboch can troll with the best of em. I taught him well. ;-)

You taught him?
About the only things you're qualified to teach are belching & farting.


No. I taught *him* those talents.

Eisboch


Well..you taught well!
We should move you down to Wall Street to teach those guys ethics.

On Apr 15, 8:11*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
You know they are in trouble when Fiat is getting cold feet about a merger.