"jps" wrote in message
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On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:15:14 -0400, HK wrote:

jps wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:35:36 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Apr 13, 7:01 pm, Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 12, 7:38 pm, Jim wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
For GOD's sake, send reinforcements quick. A billion dollar
destroyer
that could single handedly defeat Japan in WW2 is stymied by three
thugs in a lifeboat and Obama panics and sends reinforcements when
he
hears they may be joined by another unarmed merchant vessel with a
dozen or so pirates.
Obama sends a stern warning, "I'm not kidding, unless they reduce
their demands to $1 million, this time I'll not only bow, I'll
pucker
up too" sure put the fear of something into those pirates.
Meanwhile, those awful brits at the UK Telegraph are calling Obama
a
"Pantywaist surrender monkey". When a euro type calls you that,
its
gotta hurt.
In light of today's outcome, don't you feel a bit like an idiot?
How long do you think it will take Obermann to credit Obama for
everything from handling the negotiations to taking the shot ?
Not nearly as long as it will take you to blame Obama for everything
that's happened for the last 8 years.
I did not call Obama a Pantyywaist Surrender Monkey, the UK Telegraph
did. However, I still think Obama is in waaaaaaaay over his head.

The right-wing punditry was out betting on our inability to control
the circumstance, in hopes that it'd reflect poorly on Obama.

Newt, Michelle Malkin, Hannity and every other dweeb that could place
a bad bet were in attendance.

Sure enough, now the credit goes to the special forces and "our
president" never to be referred to by name.

Half-baked foolishness from a party near death.


The right-wing nutsies "hope for failure" in resolving the
pirate-hostage issue was more than palpable. Their leader, Rush
Limbaugh, wants Obama "to fail," and so do they. It is their only hope
to get back in control, because they have no plans, no ideas, no nothing
in order to entice the voters. Consider who here are the right-wing
nutsies - guys no rational person would choose to shine shoes.

It's really surprising how out of touch they are.

Not long ago it was the dems who lacked ideas. They foundered, lost
a lot of elections. When they finally came to their senses, they
pushed ideas that captured the imagination of Americans that yearned
for leadership and goals.

Republicans seem to have completely forgotten that lesson. They're
completely void of ideas that Americans can embrace, now reduced to
making come line bets against the party in power.

It doesn't help our country to be without a worthy opposition, whether
it be Rs or Ds. But the Rs right now are in the saddest shape I've
witnessed since I started paying attention in the 70s.

Actually both the D's and R's are in sad shape. And if the D's do not
correct their course (boating reference) in a short time, they are going to
be on the outside looking in again. Obama won the popular vote by a small
majority. This was not a landslide victory. Hell, after Bush, just about
any D could of won. And when you see how little the D's polled against a
lightweight candidate in McCain, you need to be really worried.

On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:58:44 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:15:14 -0400, HK wrote:

jps wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:35:36 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Apr 13, 7:01 pm, Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 12, 7:38 pm, Jim wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
For GOD's sake, send reinforcements quick. A billion dollar
destroyer
that could single handedly defeat Japan in WW2 is stymied by three
thugs in a lifeboat and Obama panics and sends reinforcements when
he
hears they may be joined by another unarmed merchant vessel with a
dozen or so pirates.
Obama sends a stern warning, "I'm not kidding, unless they reduce
their demands to $1 million, this time I'll not only bow, I'll
pucker
up too" sure put the fear of something into those pirates.
Meanwhile, those awful brits at the UK Telegraph are calling Obama
a
"Pantywaist surrender monkey". When a euro type calls you that,
its
gotta hurt.
In light of today's outcome, don't you feel a bit like an idiot?
How long do you think it will take Obermann to credit Obama for
everything from handling the negotiations to taking the shot ?
Not nearly as long as it will take you to blame Obama for everything
that's happened for the last 8 years.
I did not call Obama a Pantyywaist Surrender Monkey, the UK Telegraph
did. However, I still think Obama is in waaaaaaaay over his head.

The right-wing punditry was out betting on our inability to control
the circumstance, in hopes that it'd reflect poorly on Obama.

Newt, Michelle Malkin, Hannity and every other dweeb that could place
a bad bet were in attendance.

Sure enough, now the credit goes to the special forces and "our
president" never to be referred to by name.

Half-baked foolishness from a party near death.


The right-wing nutsies "hope for failure" in resolving the
pirate-hostage issue was more than palpable. Their leader, Rush
Limbaugh, wants Obama "to fail," and so do they. It is their only hope
to get back in control, because they have no plans, no ideas, no nothing
in order to entice the voters. Consider who here are the right-wing
nutsies - guys no rational person would choose to shine shoes.

It's really surprising how out of touch they are.

Not long ago it was the dems who lacked ideas. They foundered, lost
a lot of elections. When they finally came to their senses, they
pushed ideas that captured the imagination of Americans that yearned
for leadership and goals.

Republicans seem to have completely forgotten that lesson. They're
completely void of ideas that Americans can embrace, now reduced to
making come line bets against the party in power.

It doesn't help our country to be without a worthy opposition, whether
it be Rs or Ds. But the Rs right now are in the saddest shape I've
witnessed since I started paying attention in the 70s.

Actually both the D's and R's are in sad shape. And if the D's do not
correct their course (boating reference) in a short time, they are going to
be on the outside looking in again. Obama won the popular vote by a small
majority. This was not a landslide victory. Hell, after Bush, just about
any D could of won. And when you see how little the D's polled against a
lightweight candidate in McCain, you need to be really worried.

Bill, Obama won by the largest percentage in recent history. The 6%
margin in popular vote is considered a landslide.

I agree that D's can screw it up but the complete lack of ideas from
the R's isn't going to return them to power.

Obama will take advantage of every opportunity the R's give him to
undercut their message and connection to the electorate. They'd
better come up with real answers to real problems if they hope to gain
any foothold in the next several election cycles.

On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:58:44 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:


Actually both the D's and R's are in sad shape. And if the D's do not
correct their course (boating reference) in a short time, they are going
to be on the outside looking in again. Obama won the popular vote by a
small majority. This was not a landslide victory. Hell, after Bush,
just about any D could of won. And when you see how little the D's
polled against a lightweight candidate in McCain, you need to be really
worried.

Yeah, but . . . don't just concentrate on the Presidential election, look
at the Congressional elections, Gubernatorial elections, etc. The
Republicans have a plurality in just *five* states. They have given up
the middle ground from which most elections are won, and, they are
fundamentally divided between the conservative (political) right, and the
Christian right. IMO, the Republicans are so weakened that a third
party, perhaps the Libertarians, might provide the opposition in a couple
of election cycles.

On another point, I wouldn't call McCain lightweight. He did run a very
poor campaign, but he isn't a lightweight.

"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:58:44 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:


Actually both the D's and R's are in sad shape. And if the D's do not
correct their course (boating reference) in a short time, they are going
to be on the outside looking in again. Obama won the popular vote by a
small majority. This was not a landslide victory. Hell, after Bush,
just about any D could of won. And when you see how little the D's
polled against a lightweight candidate in McCain, you need to be really
worried.

Yeah, but . . . don't just concentrate on the Presidential election, look
at the Congressional elections, Gubernatorial elections, etc. The
Republicans have a plurality in just *five* states. They have given up
the middle ground from which most elections are won, and, they are
fundamentally divided between the conservative (political) right, and the
Christian right. IMO, the Republicans are so weakened that a third
party, perhaps the Libertarians, might provide the opposition in a couple
of election cycles.

On another point, I wouldn't call McCain lightweight. He did run a very
poor campaign, but he isn't a lightweight.

McCain is a lightweight. No charisma, no real fire, no great ideas. More
and more people are registering Independent, so the Libertarians may gain a
lot of power, if they put forward a lot of middle of the road, self
sufficiency ideas. Ideas on how to really trim back government control and
spending. Until then, they are just a party favoring loosening up drug
laws. People are ****ed about the Trillion dollar wasteful "stimulus"
package. Looks more like a Trillion bucks of earmarks.

Calif Bill wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:58:44 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:


Actually both the D's and R's are in sad shape. And if the D's do not
correct their course (boating reference) in a short time, they are going
to be on the outside looking in again. Obama won the popular vote by a
small majority. This was not a landslide victory. Hell, after Bush,
just about any D could of won. And when you see how little the D's
polled against a lightweight candidate in McCain, you need to be really
worried.
Yeah, but . . . don't just concentrate on the Presidential election, look
at the Congressional elections, Gubernatorial elections, etc. The
Republicans have a plurality in just *five* states. They have given up
the middle ground from which most elections are won, and, they are
fundamentally divided between the conservative (political) right, and the
Christian right. IMO, the Republicans are so weakened that a third
party, perhaps the Libertarians, might provide the opposition in a couple
of election cycles.

On another point, I wouldn't call McCain lightweight. He did run a very
poor campaign, but he isn't a lightweight.

McCain is a lightweight. No charisma, no real fire, no great ideas. More
and more people are registering Independent, so the Libertarians may gain a
lot of power, if they put forward a lot of middle of the road, self
sufficiency ideas. Ideas on how to really trim back government control and
spending. Until then, they are just a party favoring loosening up drug
laws. People are ****ed about the Trillion dollar wasteful "stimulus"
package. Looks more like a Trillion bucks of earmarks.




There's nothing in the GOP these days but lightweights.



Looking for a fellow racist? Look no farther than:
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Please note that Interstate 90 will be closed this weekend across
South Dakota. This closure will allow the Federal Government free
access to haul a 200 ton piece of coal to Mt. Rushmore so that
President Obama can be added to the Presidents on the monument.
--
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--

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On Apr 14, 12:38*pm, HK wrote:

There's nothing in the GOP these days but lightweights.

Everyone's a lightweight compared to you, you fat, nasty grotesque old
slob.

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Calif Bill wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:58:44 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:


Actually both the D's and R's are in sad shape. And if the D's do not
correct their course (boating reference) in a short time, they are
going
to be on the outside looking in again. Obama won the popular vote by a
small majority. This was not a landslide victory. Hell, after Bush,
just about any D could of won. And when you see how little the D's
polled against a lightweight candidate in McCain, you need to be really
worried.
Yeah, but . . . don't just concentrate on the Presidential election,
look
at the Congressional elections, Gubernatorial elections, etc. The
Republicans have a plurality in just *five* states. They have given up
the middle ground from which most elections are won, and, they are
fundamentally divided between the conservative (political) right, and
the
Christian right. IMO, the Republicans are so weakened that a third
party, perhaps the Libertarians, might provide the opposition in a
couple
of election cycles.

On another point, I wouldn't call McCain lightweight. He did run a very
poor campaign, but he isn't a lightweight.

McCain is a lightweight. No charisma, no real fire, no great ideas.
More and more people are registering Independent, so the Libertarians may
gain a lot of power, if they put forward a lot of middle of the road,
self sufficiency ideas. Ideas on how to really trim back government
control and spending. Until then, they are just a party favoring
loosening up drug laws. People are ****ed about the Trillion dollar
wasteful "stimulus" package. Looks more like a Trillion bucks of
earmarks.


There's nothing in the GOP these days but lightweights.


Seems to be the same in the Dem's also.

Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Calif Bill wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:58:44 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:


Actually both the D's and R's are in sad shape. And if the D's do not
correct their course (boating reference) in a short time, they are
going
to be on the outside looking in again. Obama won the popular vote by a
small majority. This was not a landslide victory. Hell, after Bush,
just about any D could of won. And when you see how little the D's
polled against a lightweight candidate in McCain, you need to be really
worried.
Yeah, but . . . don't just concentrate on the Presidential election,
look
at the Congressional elections, Gubernatorial elections, etc. The
Republicans have a plurality in just *five* states. They have given up
the middle ground from which most elections are won, and, they are
fundamentally divided between the conservative (political) right, and
the
Christian right. IMO, the Republicans are so weakened that a third
party, perhaps the Libertarians, might provide the opposition in a
couple
of election cycles.

On another point, I wouldn't call McCain lightweight. He did run a very
poor campaign, but he isn't a lightweight.
McCain is a lightweight. No charisma, no real fire, no great ideas.
More and more people are registering Independent, so the Libertarians may
gain a lot of power, if they put forward a lot of middle of the road,
self sufficiency ideas. Ideas on how to really trim back government
control and spending. Until then, they are just a party favoring
loosening up drug laws. People are ****ed about the Trillion dollar
wasteful "stimulus" package. Looks more like a Trillion bucks of
earmarks.

There's nothing in the GOP these days but lightweights.


Seems to be the same in the Dem's also.



Really? The Dems beat the crap ap out of the 'pubs in 2008, even winning
the White House despite the efforts of many racist 'pubs to demonize
Obama. If Obama gets a decent turnaround going, and it is looking more
and more as if he will, the 'pubs will get trounced in 2010 and 2012.

That, of course, will make the 'pubs go farther to the right, and thus
continue their path into oblivion.




--
"John H" wrote in message
...

Please note that Interstate 90 will be closed this weekend across
South Dakota. This closure will allow the Federal Government free
access to haul a 200 ton piece of coal to Mt. Rushmore so that
President Obama can be added to the Presidents on the monument.
--
John H

--

John Herring, rec.boat's resident racist.

(Tip of the hat to Don, who reposted this gem so I could see it.)

"HK" wrote in message

Really? The Dems beat the crap ap out of the 'pubs in 2008, even winning
the White House despite the efforts of many racist 'pubs to demonize
Obama. If Obama gets a decent turnaround going, and it is looking more and
more as if he will, the 'pubs will get trounced in 2010 and 2012.

That, of course, will make the 'pubs go farther to the right, and thus
continue their path into oblivion.




The Dem's did not beat the crap out of the 'pubs. Maybe you your small,
bigoted brain. The popular vote was only about 6% difference. After the
previous 8 years and the Dem's can only pull 6 % majority? They are on
shaky ground. Obama may get a boost from the economy recovering slightly,
but most people are not giving credit to the government for the turn around.
If anything they look at the government as goign spending crazy and none of
that spending is helping. The economy is coming back despite the Fed's.
The $Trillion or maybe $2 trillion by the end of the year the Dem controlled
Congress is putting in play is not setting well with the people who actually
vote and pay for it. Their immigration response is really ****ing off a
huge majority of the citizens. You may have a job near election cycle
trying to spin the developing election disaster for the Dems.