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Frogwatch April 11th 09 04:13 AM

Obama hostage crisis, day 2
 
For GOD's sake, send reinforcements quick. A billion dollar destroyer
that could single handedly defeat Japan in WW2 is stymied by three
thugs in a lifeboat and Obama panics and sends reinforcements when he
hears they may be joined by another unarmed merchant vessel with a
dozen or so pirates.
Obama sends a stern warning, "I'm not kidding, unless they reduce
their demands to $1 million, this time I'll not only bow, I'll pucker
up too" sure put the fear of something into those pirates.

Meanwhile, those awful brits at the UK Telegraph are calling Obama a
"Pantywaist surrender monkey". When a euro type calls you that, its
gotta hurt.

Mike[_3_] April 11th 09 04:51 AM

Obama hostage crisis, day 2
 
On Apr 10, 8:13�pm, Frogwatch wrote:
For GOD's sake, send reinforcements quick. �A billion dollar destroyer
that could single handedly defeat Japan in WW2 is stymied by three
thugs in a lifeboat and Obama panics and sends reinforcements when he
hears they may be joined by another unarmed merchant vessel with a
dozen or so pirates.
Obama sends a stern warning, "I'm not kidding, unless they reduce
their demands to $1 million, this time I'll not only bow, I'll pucker
up too" sure put the fear of something into those pirates.

Meanwhile, those awful brits at the UK Telegraph are calling Obama a
"Pantywaist surrender monkey". �When a euro type calls you that, its
gotta hurt.


You dumb a**, obviously we could to anything from a helicopter mission
to a nucular attack. In all cases the Captain we are trying to save
would die. Period. Yeah, we can kill the bad guys...you got any
ideas how to keep the Captain alive while we do that? You want to
trade places with the Captain?
Ain't always easy
Mike
\

[email protected] April 11th 09 07:53 AM

Obama hostage crisis, day 2
 
On Apr 10, 11:13*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
For GOD's sake, send reinforcements quick. *A billion dollar destroyer
that could single handedly defeat Japan in WW2 is stymied by three
thugs in a lifeboat and Obama panics and sends reinforcements when he
hears they may be joined by another unarmed merchant vessel with a
dozen or so pirates.
Obama sends a stern warning, "I'm not kidding, unless they reduce
their demands to $1 million, this time I'll not only bow, I'll pucker
up too" sure put the fear of something into those pirates.

Meanwhile, those awful brits at the UK Telegraph are calling Obama a
"Pantywaist surrender monkey". *When a euro type calls you that, its
gotta hurt.


Why dont they just install midi-Guns on them...unlimited ammo. End of
problem.

HK April 11th 09 11:46 AM

Obama hostage crisis, day 2
 
BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:51:52 -0700 (PDT), Mike wrote:

On Apr 10, 8:13?pm, Frogwatch wrote:
For GOD's sake, send reinforcements quick. ?A billion dollar destroyer
that could single handedly defeat Japan in WW2 is stymied by three
thugs in a lifeboat and Obama panics and sends reinforcements when he
hears they may be joined by another unarmed merchant vessel with a
dozen or so pirates.
Obama sends a stern warning, "I'm not kidding, unless they reduce
their demands to $1 million, this time I'll not only bow, I'll pucker
up too" sure put the fear of something into those pirates.

Meanwhile, those awful brits at the UK Telegraph are calling Obama a
"Pantywaist surrender monkey". ?When a euro type calls you that, its
gotta hurt.
You dumb a**, obviously we could to anything from a helicopter mission
to a nucular attack. In all cases the Captain we are trying to save
would die. Period. Yeah, we can kill the bad guys...you got any
ideas how to keep the Captain alive while we do that? You want to
trade places with the Captain?
Ain't always easy
Mike
\


Maybe the Israelis are right. Don't negotiate with terrorists. If
these pirates even get out of this alive, what is the lesson we have
given the rest of the pirates?


The negotiations should go like this.

USA: Our terms are you have 2 hours to return the Captain of the US ship
or you will all die.



Including the captain of the freighter?




--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time

HK April 11th 09 11:47 AM

Obama hostage crisis, day 2
 
Eisboch wrote:

wrote in message
...

On Apr 11, 10:20 am, BAR wrote:

The negotiations should go like this.

USA: Our terms are you have 2 hours to return the Captain of the US ship
or you will all die.


I agree with this post....

-------------------------

Are you both willing to honor the implied contract that if they release
the captain, they won't die?
Are you willing to knowingly and willingly sacrifice the hostage?

Eisboch



It's easy for someone like Bertie to think that is the solution. He's an
ex-marine, after all.


--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time

Jim22208 April 11th 09 12:31 PM

Obama hostage crisis, day 2
 
wrote:
On Apr 10, 11:13 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
For GOD's sake, send reinforcements quick. A billion dollar destroyer
that could single handedly defeat Japan in WW2 is stymied by three
thugs in a lifeboat and Obama panics and sends reinforcements when he
hears they may be joined by another unarmed merchant vessel with a
dozen or so pirates.
Obama sends a stern warning, "I'm not kidding, unless they reduce
their demands to $1 million, this time I'll not only bow, I'll pucker
up too" sure put the fear of something into those pirates.

Meanwhile, those awful brits at the UK Telegraph are calling Obama a
"Pantywaist surrender monkey". When a euro type calls you that, its
gotta hurt.


Why dont they just install midi-Guns on them...unlimited ammo. End of
problem.


For the crisis at hand, we don't need more firepower. We need the
captain to escape again so that we can have a proper Viking funeral for
the Somalians and their rescuers.

Tim April 11th 09 01:59 PM

Obama hostage crisis, day 2
 
On Apr 11, 6:31*am, Jim22208 wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 10, 11:13 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
For GOD's sake, send reinforcements quick. *A billion dollar destroyer
that could single handedly defeat Japan in WW2 is stymied by three
thugs in a lifeboat and Obama panics and sends reinforcements when he
hears they may be joined by another unarmed merchant vessel with a
dozen or so pirates.
Obama sends a stern warning, "I'm not kidding, unless they reduce
their demands to $1 million, this time I'll not only bow, I'll pucker
up too" sure put the fear of something into those pirates.


Meanwhile, those awful brits at the UK Telegraph are calling Obama a
"Pantywaist surrender monkey". *When a euro type calls you that, its
gotta hurt.


Why dont they just install midi-Guns on them...unlimited ammo. End of
problem.


For the crisis at hand, we don't need more firepower. We need the
captain to escape again so that we can have a proper Viking funeral for
the Somalians and their rescuers.


LOL!

HK April 11th 09 02:35 PM

Obama hostage crisis, day 2
 
Tim wrote:
On Apr 11, 6:31 am, Jim22208 wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 10, 11:13 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
For GOD's sake, send reinforcements quick. A billion dollar destroyer
that could single handedly defeat Japan in WW2 is stymied by three
thugs in a lifeboat and Obama panics and sends reinforcements when he
hears they may be joined by another unarmed merchant vessel with a
dozen or so pirates.
Obama sends a stern warning, "I'm not kidding, unless they reduce
their demands to $1 million, this time I'll not only bow, I'll pucker
up too" sure put the fear of something into those pirates.
Meanwhile, those awful brits at the UK Telegraph are calling Obama a
"Pantywaist surrender monkey". When a euro type calls you that, its
gotta hurt.
Why dont they just install midi-Guns on them...unlimited ammo. End of
problem.

For the crisis at hand, we don't need more firepower. We need the
captain to escape again so that we can have a proper Viking funeral for
the Somalians and their rescuers.


LOL!




Let's keep in mind the fact that the pirates are holding a very valuable
hostage who has proved how worthy he is. So long as he is alive and
unharmed, it is important for cool heads to prevail. Also keep in mind
other pirates in that area are holding other crews as hostages. What is
needed is a plan that can be implemented to sweep these waters of
pirates, and keep them them clean, far worthier tasks for a military
force than invading a country on trumped-up charges from lying
politicians that they are building weapons of mass destruction.


--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time

Eisboch[_4_] April 11th 09 02:49 PM

Obama hostage crisis, day 2
 

"HK" wrote in message
m...


Let's keep in mind the fact that the pirates are holding a very valuable
hostage who has proved how worthy he is. So long as he is alive and
unharmed, it is important for cool heads to prevail. Also keep in mind
other pirates in that area are holding other crews as hostages. What is
needed is a plan that can be implemented to sweep these waters of pirates,
and keep them them clean, far worthier tasks for a military force than
invading a country on trumped-up charges from lying politicians that they
are building weapons of mass destruction.




I agree. This situation is far more complex than some of the Clint Eastwood
types calling out, "Make my day" think it is.

The commanding officer of the Bainbridge is under rules of engagement that
precludes him from taking any action that would put the hostage's life in
jeopardy. Some people are critical that the lifeboat wasn't "blown out of
the water" when the hostage briefly jumped overboard.
The reality is that in the middle of the night and from over 200 yards away,
any firepower brought to bear on the lifeboat would also have a significant
risk to the hostage.

The rules of engagement change if the destroyer itself is in danger due to
attack. Under those circumstances the captain is authorized to take any
action necessary to save his ship. Four guys in a powerless lifeboat
armed with small arms and maybe AK-47's isn't exactly a serious threat to a
destroyer.

This is a tough situation. Apparently there are about 200 other hostages
that are being held as ransom bait by these pirates and some of them are on
the boats that the pirates have called upon for reinforcement. "Blowing
them out of the water" brings the same risk of killing hostages.

Right now, nobody is going anywhere and time is on the side of the hostage
and of the Navy.

Eisboch


[email protected] April 11th 09 02:52 PM

Obama hostage crisis, day 2
 
On Apr 11, 9:35*am, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Apr 11, 6:31 am, Jim22208 wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 10, 11:13 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
For GOD's sake, send reinforcements quick. *A billion dollar destroyer
that could single handedly defeat Japan in WW2 is stymied by three
thugs in a lifeboat and Obama panics and sends reinforcements when he
hears they may be joined by another unarmed merchant vessel with a
dozen or so pirates.
Obama sends a stern warning, "I'm not kidding, unless they reduce
their demands to $1 million, this time I'll not only bow, I'll pucker
up too" sure put the fear of something into those pirates.
Meanwhile, those awful brits at the UK Telegraph are calling Obama a
"Pantywaist surrender monkey". *When a euro type calls you that, its
gotta hurt.
Why dont they just install midi-Guns on them...unlimited ammo. End of
problem.
For the crisis at hand, we don't need more firepower. We need the
captain to escape again so that we can have a proper Viking funeral for
the Somalians and their rescuers.


LOL!


Let's keep in mind the fact that the pirates are holding a very valuable
hostage who has proved how worthy he is. So long as he is alive and
unharmed, it is important for cool heads to prevail. Also keep in mind
other pirates in that area are holding other crews as hostages. What is
needed is a plan that can be implemented to sweep these waters of
pirates, and keep them them clean, far worthier tasks for a military
force than invading a country on trumped-up charges from lying
politicians that they are building weapons of mass destruction.

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time- Hide quoted text -

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Blah, blah, blah... more illiterate bull**** from our resident dropout.


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