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On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:51:52 -0700 (PDT), Mike wrote:

On Apr 10, 8:13?pm, Frogwatch wrote:
For GOD's sake, send reinforcements quick. ?A billion dollar destroyer
that could single handedly defeat Japan in WW2 is stymied by three
thugs in a lifeboat and Obama panics and sends reinforcements when he
hears they may be joined by another unarmed merchant vessel with a
dozen or so pirates.
Obama sends a stern warning, "I'm not kidding, unless they reduce
their demands to $1 million, this time I'll not only bow, I'll pucker
up too" sure put the fear of something into those pirates.

Meanwhile, those awful brits at the UK Telegraph are calling Obama a
"Pantywaist surrender monkey". ?When a euro type calls you that, its
gotta hurt.
You dumb a**, obviously we could to anything from a helicopter mission
to a nucular attack. In all cases the Captain we are trying to save
would die. Period. Yeah, we can kill the bad guys...you got any
ideas how to keep the Captain alive while we do that? You want to
trade places with the Captain?
Ain't always easy
Mike
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Maybe the Israelis are right. Don't negotiate with terrorists. If
these pirates even get out of this alive, what is the lesson we have
given the rest of the pirates?

The negotiations should go like this.

USA: Our terms are you have 2 hours to return the Captain of the US ship
or you will all die.

On Apr 11, 10:20*am, BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:51:52 -0700 (PDT), Mike wrote:

On Apr 10, 8:13?pm, Frogwatch wrote:
For GOD's sake, send reinforcements quick. ?A billion dollar destroyer
that could single handedly defeat Japan in WW2 is stymied by three
thugs in a lifeboat and Obama panics and sends reinforcements when he
hears they may be joined by another unarmed merchant vessel with a
dozen or so pirates.
Obama sends a stern warning, "I'm not kidding, unless they reduce
their demands to $1 million, this time I'll not only bow, I'll pucker
up too" sure put the fear of something into those pirates.

Meanwhile, those awful brits at the UK Telegraph are calling Obama a
"Pantywaist surrender monkey". ?When a euro type calls you that, its
gotta hurt.
You dumb a**, obviously we could to anything from a helicopter mission
to a nucular attack. *In all cases the Captain we are trying to save
would die. *Period. *Yeah, we can kill the bad guys...you got any
ideas how to keep the Captain alive while we do that? *You want to
trade places with the Captain?
Ain't always easy
Mike
\

Maybe the Israelis are right. Don't negotiate with terrorists. If
these pirates even get out of this alive, what is the lesson we have
given the rest of the pirates?

The negotiations should go like this.

USA: Our terms are you have 2 hours to return the Captain of the US ship
or you will all die.

I agree with this post....

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On Apr 11, 10:20 am, BAR wrote:

The negotiations should go like this.

USA: Our terms are you have 2 hours to return the Captain of the US ship
or you will all die.

I agree with this post....

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Are you both willing to honor the implied contract that if they release the
captain, they won't die?
Are you willing to knowingly and willingly sacrifice the hostage?

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

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On Apr 11, 10:20 am, BAR wrote:

The negotiations should go like this.

USA: Our terms are you have 2 hours to return the Captain of the US ship
or you will all die.

I agree with this post....

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Are you both willing to honor the implied contract that if they release
the captain, they won't die?
Are you willing to knowingly and willingly sacrifice the hostage?

Eisboch



It's easy for someone like Bertie to think that is the solution. He's an
ex-marine, after all.


--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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On Apr 11, 10:20 am, BAR wrote:

The negotiations should go like this.

USA: Our terms are you have 2 hours to return the Captain of the US ship
or you will all die.

I agree with this post....

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Are you both willing to honor the implied contract that if they release
the captain, they won't die?
Are you willing to knowingly and willingly sacrifice the hostage?

Eisboch



Put the additional item in there that we will go into your home towns and
kill your families also. Not legal, but they understand that part about
killing the relatives as it is done by themselves.

On Apr 11, 1:36*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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On Apr 11, 10:20 am, BAR wrote:

The negotiations should go like this.

USA: Our terms are you have 2 hours to return the Captain of the US ship
or you will all die.

I agree with this post....

-------------------------

Are you both willing to honor the implied contract that if they release
the captain, they won't die?
Are you willing to knowingly and willingly sacrifice the hostage?

Eisboch

Put the additional item in there that we will go into your home towns and
kill your families also. *Not legal, but they understand that part about
killing the relatives as it is done by themselves.
t
You've all missed the point. Bush exuded the impression that if you
mess with the USA, that he was crazy enough to stomp you regardless of
consequences.
Obama gives the impression of "Please dont hit me, I'll give you my
lunch money". His bow to the Saudi King was a clear indication of no
action toward pirates.

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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On Apr 11, 1:36 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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wrote in message
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On Apr 11, 10:20 am, BAR wrote:

The negotiations should go like this.

USA: Our terms are you have 2 hours to return the Captain of the US
ship
or you will all die.

I agree with this post....

-------------------------

Are you both willing to honor the implied contract that if they release
the captain, they won't die?
Are you willing to knowingly and willingly sacrifice the hostage?

Eisboch

Put the additional item in there that we will go into your home towns and
kill your families also. Not legal, but they understand that part about
killing the relatives as it is done by themselves.
t
You've all missed the point. Bush exuded the impression that if you
mess with the USA, that he was crazy enough to stomp you regardless of
consequences.
Obama gives the impression of "Please dont hit me, I'll give you my
lunch money". His bow to the Saudi King was a clear indication of no
action toward pirates.

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The jury is still out in my mind. I'll wait to see what the final outcome
of this mess is.
Right now I think he is doing the right thing by not delivering threats,
etc.
If the hostage is finally released and no further action is taken against
the pirates or where they came from, my opinion will probably change.

Eisboch

Frogwatch wrote:
On Apr 11, 1:36 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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wrote in message
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On Apr 11, 10:20 am, BAR wrote:
The negotiations should go like this.
USA: Our terms are you have 2 hours to return the Captain of the US ship
or you will all die.
I agree with this post....
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Are you both willing to honor the implied contract that if they release
the captain, they won't die?
Are you willing to knowingly and willingly sacrifice the hostage?
Eisboch
Put the additional item in there that we will go into your home towns and
kill your families also. Not legal, but they understand that part about
killing the relatives as it is done by themselves.
t
You've all missed the point. Bush exuded the impression that if you
mess with the USA, that he was crazy enough to stomp you regardless of
consequences.


What Bush exuded was stupidity...that if you were terrorists and
attacked the United States, Bush would make war against the wrong
country, sacrifice thousands more American lives and ga-zillions of
dollars and in the process allow the economy to be destroyed.

The terrorists continue to laugh at us.

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time

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Frogwatch wrote:
On Apr 11, 1:36 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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wrote in message
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On Apr 11, 10:20 am, BAR wrote:
The negotiations should go like this.
USA: Our terms are you have 2 hours to return the Captain of the US
ship
or you will all die.
I agree with this post....
-------------------------
Are you both willing to honor the implied contract that if they release
the captain, they won't die?
Are you willing to knowingly and willingly sacrifice the hostage?
Eisboch
Put the additional item in there that we will go into your home towns
and
kill your families also. Not legal, but they understand that part about
killing the relatives as it is done by themselves.
t
You've all missed the point. Bush exuded the impression that if you
mess with the USA, that he was crazy enough to stomp you regardless of
consequences.


What Bush exuded was stupidity...that if you were terrorists and attacked
the United States, Bush would make war against the wrong country,
sacrifice thousands more American lives and ga-zillions of dollars and in
the process allow the economy to be destroyed.

The terrorists continue to laugh at us.

We need to get tougher to deal with this. Should have just been a nuke, one
each for Iraq and Afganistan. Over in 30 minutes.

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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On Apr 11, 1:36 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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wrote in message
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On Apr 11, 10:20 am, BAR wrote:

The negotiations should go like this.

USA: Our terms are you have 2 hours to return the Captain of the US
ship
or you will all die.

I agree with this post....

-------------------------

Are you both willing to honor the implied contract that if they release
the captain, they won't die?
Are you willing to knowingly and willingly sacrifice the hostage?

Eisboch

Put the additional item in there that we will go into your home towns and
kill your families also. Not legal, but they understand that part about
killing the relatives as it is done by themselves.
t
You've all missed the point. Bush exuded the impression that if you
mess with the USA, that he was crazy enough to stomp you regardless of
consequences.
Obama gives the impression of "Please dont hit me, I'll give you my
lunch money". His bow to the Saudi King was a clear indication of no
action toward pirates.
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Well the Saudi, Osama Bin Ladden's brother has signifigant investment in
Carlyle and that means GM and GMAC.... with Quayle and Bush too.... brothers
of Harvard on the bailout bonanza. What a web of relationships. I am only
surprised the media does not flaunt these relationships.