On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:58:25 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin
wrote:

What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the
cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in
boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the
'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a
deck?

Might depend if you were in the Navy.
I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore.
If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or
2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem
pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck.
But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck.
Shipboard, it was all decks.
Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc.
And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats.
Civvy terminology might be different though

--Vic


Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London
that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that
visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes.

The sub or sonar guys might call them boats. I always heard them
called subs. My ship was ASW, not ABS, so that could be a clue.
I don't recall a single decent meal in my Navy time, unless I was in a
restaurant. My ships's cooks just plain sucked bilge water.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:58:25 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin
wrote:

What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the
cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in
boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the
'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a
deck?
Might depend if you were in the Navy.
I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore.
If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or
2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem
pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck.
But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck.
Shipboard, it was all decks.
Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc.
And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats.
Civvy terminology might be different though

--Vic

Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London
that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that
visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes.

The sub or sonar guys might call them boats. I always heard them
called subs. My ship was ASW, not ABS, so that could be a clue.
I don't recall a single decent meal in my Navy time, unless I was in a
restaurant. My ships's cooks just plain sucked bilge water.

--Vic


Hey, I'm not speaking to "the meals," just the pancakes!

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:06:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:58:25 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin
wrote:

What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the
cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in
boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the
'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a
deck?

Might depend if you were in the Navy.
I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore.
If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or
2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem
pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck.
But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck.
Shipboard, it was all decks.
Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc.
And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats.
Civvy terminology might be different though

Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London
that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that
visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes.

The sub or sonar guys might call them boats. I always heard them
called subs. My ship was ASW, not ABS, so that could be a clue.
I don't recall a single decent meal in my Navy time, unless I was in a
restaurant. My ships's cooks just plain sucked bilge water.

Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

--

Math illiteracy affects 8 out of every 5 people.

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:06:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:58:25 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin
wrote:

What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the
cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in
boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the
'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a
deck?

Might depend if you were in the Navy.
I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore.
If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or
2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem
pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck.
But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck.
Shipboard, it was all decks.
Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc.
And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats.
Civvy terminology might be different though

Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London
that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that
visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes.

The sub or sonar guys might call them boats. I always heard them
called subs. My ship was ASW, not ABS, so that could be a clue.
I don't recall a single decent meal in my Navy time, unless I was in a
restaurant. My ships's cooks just plain sucked bilge water.

Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

I've eaten all three also. My vote goes to the Air Force, but the Navy
folks in Norfolk put on the best Friday night seafood buffey in the
entire world. Amen.

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:



Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food.
But I'm a picky eater too.
The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:


Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food.
But I'm a picky eater too.
The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old.

--Vic


Well, then, someone just didn't care. There's no reason for
institutional food to taste bad, even cheap institutional food, if the
people preparing it care. Not on a big ship.

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:33:42 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:


Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food.
But I'm a picky eater too.
The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old.

--Vic


Well, then, someone just didn't care. There's no reason for
institutional food to taste bad, even cheap institutional food, if the
people preparing it care. Not on a big ship.


Wasn't a big ship. Crew of about 250.
Same cook my entire 3 1/2 years aboard.
And I didn't say it tasted bad.
It didn't taste. Unless you salted it.
Then it tasted like salt.
Sometimes it came pre-salted though.

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:33:42 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:


Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food.
But I'm a picky eater too.
The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old.

--Vic


Well, then, someone just didn't care. There's no reason for
institutional food to taste bad, even cheap institutional food, if the
people preparing it care. Not on a big ship.


Wasn't a big ship. Crew of about 250.
Same cook my entire 3 1/2 years aboard.
And I didn't say it tasted bad.
It didn't taste. Unless you salted it.
Then it tasted like salt.
Sometimes it came pre-salted though.

--Vic


One unit I was in had really great food. But the cook had been a
professional chef and used lots of spices. I think it depended a lot on the
base and if the commander was in to food.

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:33:42 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:


Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food.
But I'm a picky eater too.
The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old.

--Vic


Well, then, someone just didn't care. There's no reason for
institutional food to taste bad, even cheap institutional food, if the
people preparing it care. Not on a big ship.

Again you give away the fact that you know absolutely nothing of the
military.

You'd be best served to stay out of any discussion about the military.

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:



Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food.
But I'm a picky eater too.
The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old.

--Vic


I became addicted to Bug Juice.

Eisboch