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What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the
cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? |
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![]() "Jim Willemin" wrote in message 7.131... What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? Proper nautical expressions do not include "floor", "wall" or "stairs". It's a deck, bulkhead or ladder. But, when it comes to decks, may as well throw "sole" into the mix. Eisboch |
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On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:13:50 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: "Jim Willemin" wrote in message . 97.131... What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? Proper nautical expressions do not include "floor", "wall" or "stairs". It's a deck, bulkhead or ladder. But, when it comes to decks, may as well throw "sole" into the mix. Squids - gotta have different names for everything. :) Sorry - I'm in that kind of mood this evening. :) -- "Do what you can, with what you have, where you are." Theodore Roosevelt. |
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin
wrote: What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? Might depend if you were in the Navy. I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore. If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or 2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck. But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck. Shipboard, it was all decks. Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc. And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats. Civvy terminology might be different though --Vic |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin wrote: What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? Might depend if you were in the Navy. I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore. If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or 2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck. But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck. Shipboard, it was all decks. Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc. And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats. Civvy terminology might be different though --Vic Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes. |
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:58:25 -0500, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin wrote: What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? Might depend if you were in the Navy. I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore. If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or 2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck. But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck. Shipboard, it was all decks. Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc. And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats. Civvy terminology might be different though --Vic Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes. The sub or sonar guys might call them boats. I always heard them called subs. My ship was ASW, not ABS, so that could be a clue. I don't recall a single decent meal in my Navy time, unless I was in a restaurant. My ships's cooks just plain sucked bilge water. --Vic |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:58:25 -0500, HK wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin wrote: What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? Might depend if you were in the Navy. I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore. If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or 2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck. But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck. Shipboard, it was all decks. Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc. And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats. Civvy terminology might be different though --Vic Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes. The sub or sonar guys might call them boats. I always heard them called subs. My ship was ASW, not ABS, so that could be a clue. I don't recall a single decent meal in my Navy time, unless I was in a restaurant. My ships's cooks just plain sucked bilge water. --Vic Hey, I'm not speaking to "the meals," just the pancakes! |
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:06:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:58:25 -0500, HK wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin wrote: What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? Might depend if you were in the Navy. I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore. If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or 2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck. But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck. Shipboard, it was all decks. Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc. And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats. Civvy terminology might be different though Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes. The sub or sonar guys might call them boats. I always heard them called subs. My ship was ASW, not ABS, so that could be a clue. I don't recall a single decent meal in my Navy time, unless I was in a restaurant. My ships's cooks just plain sucked bilge water. Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap. Navy food, by comparison, was excellent. Espiecally in San Diego. -- Math illiteracy affects 8 out of every 5 people. |
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:06:34 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:58:25 -0500, HK wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin wrote: What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a deck? Might depend if you were in the Navy. I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore. If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or 2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck. But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck. Shipboard, it was all decks. Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc. And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats. Civvy terminology might be different though Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes. The sub or sonar guys might call them boats. I always heard them called subs. My ship was ASW, not ABS, so that could be a clue. I don't recall a single decent meal in my Navy time, unless I was in a restaurant. My ships's cooks just plain sucked bilge water. Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap. Navy food, by comparison, was excellent. Espiecally in San Diego. I've eaten all three also. My vote goes to the Air Force, but the Navy folks in Norfolk put on the best Friday night seafood buffey in the entire world. Amen. |
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote: Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap. Navy food, by comparison, was excellent. Espiecally in San Diego. There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food. But I'm a picky eater too. The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old. --Vic |
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