What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the
cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in
boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the
'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a
deck?

"Jim Willemin" wrote in message
7.131...

What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the
cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in
boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know
the
'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a
deck?



Proper nautical expressions do not include "floor", "wall" or "stairs".

It's a deck, bulkhead or ladder.

But, when it comes to decks, may as well throw "sole" into the mix.

Eisboch

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin
wrote:

What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the
cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in
boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the
'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a
deck?

Might depend if you were in the Navy.
I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore.
If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or
2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem
pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck.
But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck.
Shipboard, it was all decks.
Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc.
And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats.
Civvy terminology might be different though

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin
wrote:

What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the
cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in
boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the
'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a
deck?

Might depend if you were in the Navy.
I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore.
If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or
2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem
pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck.
But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck.
Shipboard, it was all decks.
Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc.
And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats.
Civvy terminology might be different though

--Vic


Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London
that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that
visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes.

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:58:25 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin
wrote:

What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the
cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in
boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the
'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a
deck?

Might depend if you were in the Navy.
I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore.
If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or
2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem
pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck.
But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck.
Shipboard, it was all decks.
Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc.
And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats.
Civvy terminology might be different though

--Vic


Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London
that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that
visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes.

The sub or sonar guys might call them boats. I always heard them
called subs. My ship was ASW, not ABS, so that could be a clue.
I don't recall a single decent meal in my Navy time, unless I was in a
restaurant. My ships's cooks just plain sucked bilge water.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:58:25 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin
wrote:

What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the
cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in
boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the
'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a
deck?
Might depend if you were in the Navy.
I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore.
If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or
2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem
pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck.
But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck.
Shipboard, it was all decks.
Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc.
And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats.
Civvy terminology might be different though

--Vic

Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London
that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that
visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes.

The sub or sonar guys might call them boats. I always heard them
called subs. My ship was ASW, not ABS, so that could be a clue.
I don't recall a single decent meal in my Navy time, unless I was in a
restaurant. My ships's cooks just plain sucked bilge water.

--Vic


Hey, I'm not speaking to "the meals," just the pancakes!

On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:13:50 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Jim Willemin" wrote in message
. 97.131...

What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the
cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in
boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know
the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a
deck?

Proper nautical expressions do not include "floor", "wall" or "stairs".

It's a deck, bulkhead or ladder.

But, when it comes to decks, may as well throw "sole" into the mix.

Squids - gotta have different names for everything. :)

Sorry - I'm in that kind of mood this evening. :)

--

"Do what you can, with what you
have, where you are."

Theodore Roosevelt.

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:06:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:58:25 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin
wrote:

What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the
cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in
boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the
'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a
deck?

Might depend if you were in the Navy.
I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore.
If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or
2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem
pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck.
But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck.
Shipboard, it was all decks.
Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc.
And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats.
Civvy terminology might be different though

Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London
that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that
visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes.

The sub or sonar guys might call them boats. I always heard them
called subs. My ship was ASW, not ABS, so that could be a clue.
I don't recall a single decent meal in my Navy time, unless I was in a
restaurant. My ships's cooks just plain sucked bilge water.

Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

--

Math illiteracy affects 8 out of every 5 people.

Jim Willemin wrote in
7.131:

What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in
the cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the
'floors' in boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but
does anyone know the 'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a
deckhouse have a floor or a deck?


Thanks to all who responded. I got a little confused thinking of open
boats, but then I looked up 'floor' and discovered that it is 'that part of
the bottom of a vessel on each side of the keelson which is most nearly
horizontal'. So, strictly speaking, Tim is putting a new deck in his
boat, but when I finish my skiff and stand up to cast, I'll be standing on
the floor (since I'll be standing on the bottom of the vessel). I suppose
things get a little murky when one has an open V-bottom craft with a flat
deck inside to stand on, and even murkier when one has open slatwork to
spread one's weight over the bottom...

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:06:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:58:25 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin
wrote:

What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the
cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in
boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the
'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a
deck?

Might depend if you were in the Navy.
I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore.
If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or
2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem
pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck.
But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck.
Shipboard, it was all decks.
Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc.
And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats.
Civvy terminology might be different though

Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London
that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that
visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes.

The sub or sonar guys might call them boats. I always heard them
called subs. My ship was ASW, not ABS, so that could be a clue.
I don't recall a single decent meal in my Navy time, unless I was in a
restaurant. My ships's cooks just plain sucked bilge water.

Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

I've eaten all three also. My vote goes to the Air Force, but the Navy
folks in Norfolk put on the best Friday night seafood buffey in the
entire world. Amen.