On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:42:55 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


wrote in message
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I am posting this from a bike group I go to.. Maybe you guys can make
a good suggestion and I can pass it along..

SNIP
OT, but I figure some of the regulars in this group are the type to
carry and use multitools. I'm looking to get one that has a solid
set
of pliers that don't shimmy side to side when twisting things, with
at
least the basics for additional tools (screwdrivers, knife, etc).
It'll be for boating use as well as on the dirt bike, so I don't
really like the designs that have separate drivers for the
screwdriver
part, since I could see losing one in rough seas, and wouldn't want
to be fiddling with getting out the proper bit and inserting it into
the tool while on the cabintop of a rocking boat.

The best thing I found hope for in my research was a Kershaw
multitool, but it's been discontinued. My everyday pocket knife is a
Kershaw 1550, and it's a great, great knife. Very well built, going
strong after years of tough use and conditions, and has a lifetime
warranty behind it if it ever does flake out on me.


Any multitools I've used have done many things poorly. I'd like to
find one that does a few things well, with a special focus on the
pliers. This (along with my satisfaction with their other products)
is why i liked the looks of the Kershaw so much - the pliers were not
retractable and as such were supposedly much stiffer than your
average
multitool. They were also locking like vice grips, but that part I
can do without.


Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc. I'm looking for advice on a good multitool I can buy
at the store in '09, not what was a great tool back in the 80's when
tools were commonly made to be used.


So, if you carry something along these lines and are happy with it,
please tell me what and why.

/SNIP

Thanks, Scotty

Back in 1997 we were closing up a small union local and preparing to join
with a larger union.
Had some money to dispose of so I bought about 32 Schrade Tough Tools for
the members.
I also went to a local leather artist and had little patches made with the
union local #, it's logo and the dates it served the members.
These patches were sewn onto the leather belt pouches the tool came with.
I presented them with custom t-shirts at a goodbye party to the 2.5 dozen
current members plus a few past execs.
Everybody loved them except for a few of the girls. Can't please everyone.
http://www.botachtactical.com/schrade1.html

How long did they last?

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On Jan 6, 10:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports

wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc

Excuse me?

Leatherman tools rule.

Isn't that a glorified Swiss Army knife?
Never met a multi-tool I liked except for a claw hammer.
A decent tool box doesn't take up much space.
If you're convinced send me that Leatherman and I'll take a look at it
before I get rid of it.
Already posted my address.

--Vic

The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room
for a toolbox, even a small one...

===========

If the Leatherman Wave is good enough for Les Stroud, it's just the thing
for your friend.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
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On Jan 6, 10:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports

wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc
Excuse me?
Leatherman tools rule.
Isn't that a glorified Swiss Army knife?
Never met a multi-tool I liked except for a claw hammer.
A decent tool box doesn't take up much space.
If you're convinced send me that Leatherman and I'll take a look at it
before I get rid of it.
Already posted my address.

--Vic

The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room
for a toolbox, even a small one...

===========

If the Leatherman Wave is good enough for Les Stroud, it's just the thing
for your friend.




That's the one I have...but I understand Leatherman "retired" that
model. It's a great little pocket tool. I even pack it in my checked-in
luggage when I fly somewhere. Used to be able to keep it in my pocket...

On Jan 6, 10:42*pm, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message

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I am posting this from a bike group I go to.. Maybe you guys can make
a good suggestion and I can pass it along..

SNIP
OT, but I figure some of the regulars in this group are the type to
carry and use multitools. *I'm looking to get one that has a solid
set
of pliers that don't shimmy side to side when twisting things, with
at
least the basics for additional tools (screwdrivers, knife, etc).
It'll be for boating use as well as on the dirt bike, so I don't
really like the designs that have separate drivers for the
screwdriver
part, since I could see *losing one in rough seas, and wouldn't want
to be fiddling with getting out the proper bit and inserting it into
the tool while on the cabintop of a rocking boat.

The best thing I found hope for in my research was a Kershaw
multitool, but it's been discontinued. *My everyday pocket knife is a
Kershaw 1550, and it's a great, great knife. *Very well built, going
strong after years of tough use and conditions, and has a lifetime
warranty behind it if it ever does flake out on me.

Any multitools I've used have done many things poorly. *I'd like to
find one that does a few things well, with a special focus on the
pliers. *This (along with my satisfaction with their other products)
is why i liked the looks of the Kershaw so much - the pliers were not
retractable and as such were supposedly much stiffer than your
average
multitool. *They were also locking like vice grips, but that part I
can do without.

Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc. *I'm looking for advice on a good multitool I can buy
at the store in '09, not what was a great tool back in the 80's when
tools were commonly made to be used.

So, if you carry something along these lines and are happy with it,
please tell me what and why.

/SNIP

Thanks, Scotty

Back in 1997 we were closing up a small union local and preparing to join
with a larger union.
Had some money to dispose of so I bought about 32 Schrade Tough Tools for
the members.
I also went to a local leather artist and had little patches made with the
union local #, it's logo and the dates it served the members.
These patches were sewn onto the leather belt pouches the tool came with.
I presented them with custom t-shirts at a goodbye party to the 2.5 dozen
current members plus a few past execs.
Everybody loved them except for a few of the girls. *Can't please everyone.http://www.botachtactical.com/schrade1.html- Hide quoted text -

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Did Harry help you with that tall tale?

On Jan 7, 8:00*am, hk wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
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On Jan 6, 10:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports

wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc
Excuse me?
Leatherman tools rule.
Isn't that a glorified Swiss Army knife?
Never met a multi-tool I liked except for a claw hammer.
A decent tool box doesn't take up much space.
If you're convinced send me that Leatherman and I'll take a look at it
before I get rid of it.
Already posted my address.

--Vic

The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room
for a toolbox, even a small one...

===========

If the Leatherman Wave is good enough for Les Stroud, it's just the thing
for your friend.

That's the one I have...but I understand Leatherman "retired" that
model. It's a great little pocket tool. I even pack it in my checked-in
luggage when I fly somewhere. Used to be able to keep it in my pocket...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You're not allowed to have them on a commercial flight because it has
a knife, liar.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...ted-items.shtm

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On Jan 7, 8:00 am, hk wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
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On Jan 6, 10:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports

wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc
Excuse me?
Leatherman tools rule.
Isn't that a glorified Swiss Army knife?
Never met a multi-tool I liked except for a claw hammer.
A decent tool box doesn't take up much space.
If you're convinced send me that Leatherman and I'll take a look at it
before I get rid of it.
Already posted my address.

--Vic

The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room
for a toolbox, even a small one...

===========

If the Leatherman Wave is good enough for Les Stroud, it's just the
thing
for your friend.

That's the one I have...but I understand Leatherman "retired" that
model. It's a great little pocket tool. I even pack it in my checked-in
luggage when I fly somewhere. Used to be able to keep it in my pocket...-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You're not allowed to have them on a commercial flight because it has
a knife, liar.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...ted-items.shtm

====================


They're permitted in checked-in luggage, which is where Harry stated he
packs his.

If you're referring to "Used to be able to keep it in my pocket", you can't
question that statement without asking him **WHEN**, since it was permitted
at one time.

wrote:
On Jan 7, 8:00 am, hk wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Jan 6, 10:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc
Excuse me?
Leatherman tools rule.
Isn't that a glorified Swiss Army knife?
Never met a multi-tool I liked except for a claw hammer.
A decent tool box doesn't take up much space.
If you're convinced send me that Leatherman and I'll take a look at it
before I get rid of it.
Already posted my address.
--Vic
The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room
for a toolbox, even a small one...
===========
If the Leatherman Wave is good enough for Les Stroud, it's just the thing
for your friend.
That's the one I have...but I understand Leatherman "retired" that
model. It's a great little pocket tool. I even pack it in my checked-in
luggage when I fly somewhere. Used to be able to keep it in my pocket...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You're not allowed to have them on a commercial flight because it has
a knife, liar.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...ted-items.shtm

He is a liar, but not necessarily in this case. You need to apologize to
harold.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
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On Jan 7, 8:00 am, hk wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Jan 6, 10:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc
Excuse me?
Leatherman tools rule.
Isn't that a glorified Swiss Army knife?
Never met a multi-tool I liked except for a claw hammer.
A decent tool box doesn't take up much space.
If you're convinced send me that Leatherman and I'll take a look at it
before I get rid of it.
Already posted my address.
--Vic
The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room
for a toolbox, even a small one...
===========
If the Leatherman Wave is good enough for Les Stroud, it's just the
thing
for your friend.
That's the one I have...but I understand Leatherman "retired" that
model. It's a great little pocket tool. I even pack it in my checked-in
luggage when I fly somewhere. Used to be able to keep it in my pocket...-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You're not allowed to have them on a commercial flight because it has
a knife, liar.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...ted-items.shtm

====================


They're permitted in checked-in luggage, which is where Harry stated he
packs his.

If you're referring to "Used to be able to keep it in my pocket", you can't
question that statement without asking him **WHEN**, since it was permitted
at one time.



Thanks, but you are dealing with Loogy here. He was the model for
Forrest Gump.

Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 7, 8:00 am, hk wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Jan 6, 10:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc
Excuse me?
Leatherman tools rule.
Isn't that a glorified Swiss Army knife?
Never met a multi-tool I liked except for a claw hammer.
A decent tool box doesn't take up much space.
If you're convinced send me that Leatherman and I'll take a look at it
before I get rid of it.
Already posted my address.
--Vic
The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room
for a toolbox, even a small one...
===========
If the Leatherman Wave is good enough for Les Stroud, it's just the
thing
for your friend.
That's the one I have...but I understand Leatherman "retired" that
model. It's a great little pocket tool. I even pack it in my checked-in
luggage when I fly somewhere. Used to be able to keep it in my
pocket...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You're not allowed to have them on a commercial flight because it has
a knife, liar.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...ted-items.shtm


He is a liar, but not necessarily in this case. You need to apologize to
harold.

In the 80's I had a briefcase that I used for about 10 yrs, and had used
on over 1000 flights. This was when they were having problems with all
of the hijacked flights. When I purchased a new briefcase, and took
everything out, I found a pocketknife with a 3" blade in one of the side
compartments. I was surprised that it was never seen by the Xray
machines. My guess is they would find it today. Or maybe I am hoping
they would find it today.

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:42:55 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
I am posting this from a bike group I go to.. Maybe you guys can make
a good suggestion and I can pass it along..

SNIP
OT, but I figure some of the regulars in this group are the type to
carry and use multitools. I'm looking to get one that has a solid
set
of pliers that don't shimmy side to side when twisting things, with
at
least the basics for additional tools (screwdrivers, knife, etc).
It'll be for boating use as well as on the dirt bike, so I don't
really like the designs that have separate drivers for the
screwdriver
part, since I could see losing one in rough seas, and wouldn't want
to be fiddling with getting out the proper bit and inserting it into
the tool while on the cabintop of a rocking boat.

The best thing I found hope for in my research was a Kershaw
multitool, but it's been discontinued. My everyday pocket knife is a
Kershaw 1550, and it's a great, great knife. Very well built, going
strong after years of tough use and conditions, and has a lifetime
warranty behind it if it ever does flake out on me.


Any multitools I've used have done many things poorly. I'd like to
find one that does a few things well, with a special focus on the
pliers. This (along with my satisfaction with their other products)
is why i liked the looks of the Kershaw so much - the pliers were not
retractable and as such were supposedly much stiffer than your
average
multitool. They were also locking like vice grips, but that part I
can do without.


Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc. I'm looking for advice on a good multitool I can buy
at the store in '09, not what was a great tool back in the 80's when
tools were commonly made to be used.


So, if you carry something along these lines and are happy with it,
please tell me what and why.

/SNIP

Thanks, Scotty

Back in 1997 we were closing up a small union local and preparing to join
with a larger union.
Had some money to dispose of so I bought about 32 Schrade Tough Tools for
the members.
I also went to a local leather artist and had little patches made with the
union local #, it's logo and the dates it served the members.
These patches were sewn onto the leather belt pouches the tool came with.
I presented them with custom t-shirts at a goodbye party to the 2.5 dozen
current members plus a few past execs.
Everybody loved them except for a few of the girls. Can't please
everyone.
http://www.botachtactical.com/schrade1.html

How long did they last?

Mine is like new..except for the tiny 'slot' screwdriver tip. I mangled it
a bit trying to remove small rusted towel rack set screws.
Always meant to send it back for repair under warranty..or simply file down
to a useable tip.
(note: I should disclose that other than the original oiling and tedius
high repition break-in period, so I could open and use the pliers single
handed, the tool got limited use)