Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:20:40 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Dec 30, 5:42 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

...



You should've just called Harry he can fix anything.
Anybody should. Heck, I am far from a computer expert, but I successfully
installed and setup a wireless home network system for my son at his
Beachouse. All you have to do is carefully follow the instructions.

Our system was dependent on Comcast. *That* was the problem.

Eisboch
I've got Comcast, and I set up my own wireless network without a
glitch.

Legitimizes the do-it-yourself notion......



I have a feeling the "cable modem" Eisboch was issued, and not the
router, or router side, was at fault here. There really isn't much to
setting up a router if you are not assigning IP addresses to the devices
on your home network.

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:20:40 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Dec 30, 5:42 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

...



You should've just called Harry he can fix anything.
Anybody should. Heck, I am far from a computer expert, but I
successfully
installed and setup a wireless home network system for my son at his
Beachouse. All you have to do is carefully follow the instructions.

Our system was dependent on Comcast. *That* was the problem.

Eisboch
I've got Comcast, and I set up my own wireless network without a
glitch.

Legitimizes the do-it-yourself notion......



I have a feeling the "cable modem" Eisboch was issued, and not the router,
or router side, was at fault here. There really isn't much to setting up a
router if you are not assigning IP addresses to the devices on your home
network.

I don't know much about these things but the one they replaced (that had
been working fine until the Comcast dude remotely did something to it) was
one unit. It was a modem/wireless router in one package.

The wireless router I installed myself at my kid's house was a separate unit
from the modem.
I simply connected it to the Comcast provided modem and followed the
directions on the disk that came with the router. It was duck soup. Set up
a secure network and all works fine.

Maybe I should apply for a part time job at Comcast, huh?

The guys that finally showed up at the house knew their stuff though. They
setup some cool stuff for us that the average do-it-yourselfer like me would
never know you could do.

Meanwhile, I've downloaded AVG but have not installed it yet. I read up on
it a bit and it was recommended that you make sure you are current with all
Windows updates for Vista, which I did. There were quite a few updates that
had to be downloaded and installed.

Before I install AVG, I want to get rid of Norton. Whenever I boot up the
computer I get a screen asking me if I want to install it, which I refuse
every time. I want to figure out how to get rid of that before installing
AVG, just to make damn sure there isn't some conflict going on.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:20:40 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Dec 30, 5:42 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

...



You should've just called Harry he can fix anything.
Anybody should. Heck, I am far from a computer expert, but I
successfully
installed and setup a wireless home network system for my son at his
Beachouse. All you have to do is carefully follow the instructions.

Our system was dependent on Comcast. *That* was the problem.

Eisboch
I've got Comcast, and I set up my own wireless network without a
glitch.

Legitimizes the do-it-yourself notion......



I have a feeling the "cable modem" Eisboch was issued, and not the
router, or router side, was at fault here. There really isn't much to
setting up a router if you are not assigning IP addresses to the
devices on your home network.

I don't know much about these things but the one they replaced (that had
been working fine until the Comcast dude remotely did something to it)
was one unit. It was a modem/wireless router in one package.

The wireless router I installed myself at my kid's house was a separate
unit from the modem.
I simply connected it to the Comcast provided modem and followed the
directions on the disk that came with the router. It was duck soup.
Set up a secure network and all works fine.

Maybe I should apply for a part time job at Comcast, huh?

The guys that finally showed up at the house knew their stuff though.
They setup some cool stuff for us that the average do-it-yourselfer like
me would never know you could do.

Meanwhile, I've downloaded AVG but have not installed it yet. I read up
on it a bit and it was recommended that you make sure you are current
with all Windows updates for Vista, which I did. There were quite a few
updates that had to be downloaded and installed.

Before I install AVG, I want to get rid of Norton. Whenever I boot up
the computer I get a screen asking me if I want to install it, which I
refuse every time. I want to figure out how to get rid of that before
installing AVG, just to make damn sure there isn't some conflict going on.

Eisboch



Ahhhhh...You've found one of the many Norton aggravators. Really. There
are pages and pages of URLs that lead to ways to resolve problems
incurred in complete removal of Norton from a computer. I kid you not.

I stopped using Norton some years ago because I could not get it to
update certain modules no matter what, and neither could the "tech
support" guys in Bombay.

Good luck!

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Boater" wrote in message
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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:20:40 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Dec 30, 5:42 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

...



You should've just called Harry he can fix anything.
Anybody should. Heck, I am far from a computer expert, but I
successfully
installed and setup a wireless home network system for my son at his
Beachouse. All you have to do is carefully follow the instructions.

Our system was dependent on Comcast. *That* was the problem.

Eisboch
I've got Comcast, and I set up my own wireless network without a
glitch.

Legitimizes the do-it-yourself notion......



I have a feeling the "cable modem" Eisboch was issued, and not the
router, or router side, was at fault here. There really isn't much to
setting up a router if you are not assigning IP addresses to the devices
on your home network.

I don't know much about these things but the one they replaced (that had
been working fine until the Comcast dude remotely did something to it) was
one unit. It was a modem/wireless router in one package.

The wireless router I installed myself at my kid's house was a separate
unit from the modem.
I simply connected it to the Comcast provided modem and followed the
directions on the disk that came with the router. It was duck soup. Set
up a secure network and all works fine.

Maybe I should apply for a part time job at Comcast, huh?

The guys that finally showed up at the house knew their stuff though.
They setup some cool stuff for us that the average do-it-yourselfer like
me would never know you could do.

Meanwhile, I've downloaded AVG but have not installed it yet. I read up
on it a bit and it was recommended that you make sure you are current with
all Windows updates for Vista, which I did. There were quite a few
updates that had to be downloaded and installed.

Before I install AVG, I want to get rid of Norton. Whenever I boot up
the computer I get a screen asking me if I want to install it, which I
refuse every time. I want to figure out how to get rid of that before
installing AVG, just to make damn sure there isn't some conflict going on.

Eisboch


You might want to try the Norton removal tool from Symantec:

http://tinyurl.com/7v555b

I haven't used it recently but in the past it was effective in removing
their bloat-ware

I assumed that you have the 2008 version, if not there are tools on the
Symantec site for other versions.

Make sure you have the FREE version of AVG. Sometimes it's hard to locate
the free version URL.

Eisboch wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:20:40 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Dec 30, 5:42 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

...



You should've just called Harry he can fix anything.
Anybody should. Heck, I am far from a computer expert, but I
successfully
installed and setup a wireless home network system for my son at his
Beachouse. All you have to do is carefully follow the instructions.

Our system was dependent on Comcast. *That* was the problem.

Eisboch
I've got Comcast, and I set up my own wireless network without a
glitch.

Legitimizes the do-it-yourself notion......



I have a feeling the "cable modem" Eisboch was issued, and not the
router, or router side, was at fault here. There really isn't much to
setting up a router if you are not assigning IP addresses to the
devices on your home network.

I don't know much about these things but the one they replaced (that had
been working fine until the Comcast dude remotely did something to it)
was one unit. It was a modem/wireless router in one package.

The wireless router I installed myself at my kid's house was a separate
unit from the modem.
I simply connected it to the Comcast provided modem and followed the
directions on the disk that came with the router. It was duck soup.
Set up a secure network and all works fine.

Maybe I should apply for a part time job at Comcast, huh?

The guys that finally showed up at the house knew their stuff though.
They setup some cool stuff for us that the average do-it-yourselfer like
me would never know you could do.

Meanwhile, I've downloaded AVG but have not installed it yet. I read up
on it a bit and it was recommended that you make sure you are current
with all Windows updates for Vista, which I did. There were quite a few
updates that had to be downloaded and installed.

Before I install AVG, I want to get rid of Norton. Whenever I boot up
the computer I get a screen asking me if I want to install it, which I
refuse every time. I want to figure out how to get rid of that before
installing AVG, just to make damn sure there isn't some conflict going on.

Eisboch

Eisboch,
There is a good chance that "Norton" screen is actually a Trojan that is
sending you to a "Norton Phishing" site (and not a real Norton site) so
you will provide them with your credit card info. I had a neighbor who
picked up that virus and it was a bitch to get rid of. You had to
delete the start up line, manually delete the file it referenced, and
then reboot in safe mode to completely remove it.

You might be able to remove it using AVG but it does sound to me like
you have picked up a Trojan.

On Jan 1, 10:35*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:20:40 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Dec 30, 5:42 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

news:37udnXRVFdcOP8fUnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@giganew s.com...

You should've just called Harry he can fix anything.
Anybody should. *Heck, I am far from a computer expert, but I
successfully
installed and setup a wireless home network system for my son at his
Beachouse. *All you have to do is carefully follow the instructions.

Our system was dependent on Comcast. * *That* was the problem.

Eisboch
I've got Comcast, and I set up my own wireless network without a
glitch.

Legitimizes the do-it-yourself notion......

I have a feeling the "cable modem" Eisboch was issued, and not the
router, or router side, was at fault here. There really isn't much to
setting up a router if you are not assigning IP addresses to the
devices on your home network.

I don't know much about these things but the one they replaced (that had
been working fine until the Comcast dude remotely did something to it)
was one unit. *It was a modem/wireless router in one package.

The wireless router I installed myself at my kid's house was a separate
unit from the modem.
I simply connected it to the Comcast provided modem and followed the
directions on the disk that came with the router. *It was duck soup. *
Set up a secure network and all works fine.

Maybe I should apply for a part time job at Comcast, huh?

The guys that finally showed up at the house knew their stuff though. *
They setup some cool stuff for us that the average do-it-yourselfer like
me would never know you could do.

Meanwhile, I've downloaded AVG but have not installed it yet. *I read up
on it a bit and it was recommended that you make sure you are current
with all Windows updates for Vista, which I did. *There were quite a few
updates that had to be downloaded and installed.

Before I install AVG, I want to get rid of Norton. * Whenever I boot up
the computer I get a screen asking me if I want to install it, which I
refuse every time. * I want to figure out how to get rid of that before
installing AVG, just to make damn sure there isn't some conflict going on.

Eisboch

Eisboch,
There is a good chance that "Norton" screen is actually a Trojan that is
sending you to a "Norton Phishing" site (and not a real Norton site) *so
you will provide them with your credit card info. *I had a neighbor who
picked up that virus and it was a bitch to get rid of. *You had to
delete the start up line, manually delete the file it referenced, and
then reboot in safe mode to completely remove it.

You might be able to remove it using AVG but it does sound to me like
you have picked up a Trojan.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Interesting theory, but Norton is a sleazy op that does everything it
can to keep from being removed.. McAffe btw as I noted before is a dog
of a system that drains your resources nearly as much as AOL...
Dick, try Zone Alarm like I said before...

On Jan 1, 10:43*am, wrote:
On Jan 1, 10:35*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."





wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:20:40 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Dec 30, 5:42 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

news:37udnXRVFdcOP8fUnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@giganew s.com...

You should've just called Harry he can fix anything.
Anybody should. *Heck, I am far from a computer expert, but I
successfully
installed and setup a wireless home network system for my son at his
Beachouse. *All you have to do is carefully follow the instructions.

Our system was dependent on Comcast. * *That* was the problem.

Eisboch
I've got Comcast, and I set up my own wireless network without a
glitch.

Legitimizes the do-it-yourself notion......

I have a feeling the "cable modem" Eisboch was issued, and not the
router, or router side, was at fault here. There really isn't much to
setting up a router if you are not assigning IP addresses to the
devices on your home network.

I don't know much about these things but the one they replaced (that had
been working fine until the Comcast dude remotely did something to it)
was one unit. *It was a modem/wireless router in one package.

The wireless router I installed myself at my kid's house was a separate
unit from the modem.
I simply connected it to the Comcast provided modem and followed the
directions on the disk that came with the router. *It was duck soup.. *
Set up a secure network and all works fine.

Maybe I should apply for a part time job at Comcast, huh?

The guys that finally showed up at the house knew their stuff though. *
They setup some cool stuff for us that the average do-it-yourselfer like
me would never know you could do.

Meanwhile, I've downloaded AVG but have not installed it yet. *I read up
on it a bit and it was recommended that you make sure you are current
with all Windows updates for Vista, which I did. *There were quite a few
updates that had to be downloaded and installed.

Before I install AVG, I want to get rid of Norton. * Whenever I boot up
the computer I get a screen asking me if I want to install it, which I
refuse every time. * I want to figure out how to get rid of that before
installing AVG, just to make damn sure there isn't some conflict going on.

Eisboch

Eisboch,
There is a good chance that "Norton" screen is actually a Trojan that is
sending you to a "Norton Phishing" site (and not a real Norton site) *so
you will provide them with your credit card info. *I had a neighbor who
picked up that virus and it was a bitch to get rid of. *You had to
delete the start up line, manually delete the file it referenced, and
then reboot in safe mode to completely remove it.

You might be able to remove it using AVG but it does sound to me like
you have picked up a Trojan.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Interesting theory, but Norton is a sleazy op that does everything it
can to keep from being removed.. McAffe btw as I noted before is a dog
of a system that drains your resources nearly as much as AOL...
Dick, try Zone Alarm like I said before...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Norton is the AOL of virus protection.

On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:16:10 -0800 (PST), wrote:



Norton is the AOL of virus protection.

Funny how when Norton sold his name it all went to crap.
Peter Norton was a great boon to early PC adopters, and I
used his utilities all the time. He was a hell of a gearhead.
Though I still have many of the utilities on a HD, I haven't looked at
them in years, since I went NTFS.
The only thing I use with his name on it now is Ghost, which is really
a Symantec product. 2003 version booted from floppy.
Works every time. Maybe he had a hand in it.

--Vic

"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
...


Eisboch,
There is a good chance that "Norton" screen is actually a Trojan that is
sending you to a "Norton Phishing" site (and not a real Norton site) so
you will provide them with your credit card info. I had a neighbor who
picked up that virus and it was a bitch to get rid of. You had to delete
the start up line, manually delete the file it referenced, and then reboot
in safe mode to completely remove it.

You might be able to remove it using AVG but it does sound to me like you
have picked up a Trojan.

Anything is possible, but I doubt it. It's a brand new computer and the
Norton screen came up during the initial start up and program loading of the
computer. This was 4 days before it was ever connected to the Internet.

It first came up with the initial start up after loading Windows, etc. (as
it should). I clicked on the "close without installing" because I didn't
want to install Norton. It still pops up whenever I do a cold reboot, and
I continue to click "close without installing".

This morning I tried to install the free AVG program. Windows on the new
computer was unable to install it because it doesn't recognize ".php" files.
I suppose I can find the software to do it, but I think I'll just buy the
"Pro" version and be done with it.

Eisboch

On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 11:12:10 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


This morning I tried to install the free AVG program. Windows on the
new computer was unable to install it because it doesn't recognize
".php" files. I suppose I can find the software to do it, but I think
I'll just buy the "Pro" version and be done with it.

You have to go back to that index.php url and download what it points
to. PHP is a scripting language used for dynamic content. It is not the
program itself.