On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 21:05:36 -0800 (PST),
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On Dec 6, 3:16*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:07:05 -0800 (PST),
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On Dec 6, 3:04*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:15:56 -0800, (UglyDan®©™) wrote:
LOL, Yeah that would work, Then again I suppose you could get the
reverse effect with some individuals.
FWIW I very rarely shoot .357's its hard on my K-frame revolvers. When I
shoot wheelgun matches I use 151 gr RN Super .38's I load into .38
special cases. *UD *

Mine is an S&W Mod 28-2. I don't often fire .357 rounds through it. Usually
it's just .38 wadcutters. I've got hundreds of those damn things from when
I had two brothers who were cops.

This isn't mine, but it's the same pistol.

http://www.bayourovers.com/SmithWessonModel28-2.jpg
--
John H.

I am not a firearm guy, but it doesn't look like a very efficient
piece of equipment. *Not trying to be an ass, just sayin'...

Well, how do you define 'efficient'? It does what I've wanted it to do, and
it was a gift from a cop.

It's not as efficient at some things as at others. All depends...
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I dunno, it looks like it has a pretty short barrel so unless someone
is a pretty good shot, my understanding is that a weapon like this is
not good for anything beyond a few feet. Hard to handle too I would
imagine, must have a hell of a muzzle lift, but again, I don't know
from firearms... And unlike my new troll CRM, I was not trying to pick
a fight, but you already knew that... I am just a tool guy and as a
killing machine which I assume this is, I just thought other weapons
would be better.

Well, it's definitely not a long range weapon. It was used by many police
departments. Here is a little write-up about this gun.
http://tinyurl.com/yzussr It takes only a minute or two to read. And the
bottom line is worthwhile:

"That's a damned serious gun," he said. He was right. It's a unique
revolver in a long line of resplendent Smith & Wessons, a gun stripped to
it's elemental form, designed for nothing more than deadly social callings,
and keeping officers of the law alive. It doesn't get much more serious
than that."

It does what it's supposed to do.

And, it was a gift. I may have bought something different thirty years ago.
But you have to remember...according to Harry, I've got hordes of MS13
gangsters all looking to break into my house. All I need is something
accurate enough to shoot down the stairs!
--
John H.

On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 06:21:49 GMT, "CRM" wrote:


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I dunno, it looks like it has a pretty short barrel so unless someone
is a pretty good shot, my understanding is that a weapon like this is
not good for anything beyond a few feet.
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Here's a grouping free hand at 25 yards (75 feet for you backwoodsers)
http://www.dezendorf.us/photos/M2801.jpg


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Hard to handle too I would imagine, must have a hell of a muzzle lift
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For a little guy, maybe.

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but again, I don't know from firearms...
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Then why not STFU?


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And unlike my new troll CRM, I was not trying to pick
a fight, but you already knew that...
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Why should he "know" that?


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I just thought other weapons would be better.
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Why? You already said you know nothing about firearms.

Scotty asked a reasonable question in a reasonable manner. He wasn't making
any comments to or about you, so why the assinine response?
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John H.

wrote:
On Dec 6, 3:16 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:07:05 -0800 (PST),
wrote:





On Dec 6, 3:04 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:15:56 -0800, (UglyDan®©™) wrote:
LOL, Yeah that would work, Then again I suppose you could get the
reverse effect with some individuals.
FWIW I very rarely shoot .357's its hard on my K-frame revolvers. When I
shoot wheelgun matches I use 151 gr RN Super .38's I load into .38
special cases. UD
Mine is an S&W Mod 28-2. I don't often fire .357 rounds through it. Usually
it's just .38 wadcutters. I've got hundreds of those damn things from when
I had two brothers who were cops.
This isn't mine, but it's the same pistol.
http://www.bayourovers.com/SmithWessonModel28-2.jpg
--
John H.
I am not a firearm guy, but it doesn't look like a very efficient
piece of equipment. Not trying to be an ass, just sayin'...
Well, how do you define 'efficient'? It does what I've wanted it to do, and
it was a gift from a cop.

It's not as efficient at some things as at others. All depends...
--
John H.- Hide quoted text -

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I dunno, it looks like it has a pretty short barrel so unless someone
is a pretty good shot, my understanding is that a weapon like this is
not good for anything beyond a few feet. Hard to handle too I would
imagine, must have a hell of a muzzle lift, but again, I don't know
from firearms

But as you yourself say, you don't know from firearms.

So, it isn't good for anything beyond a few feet. Why not stand 15 feet
"downrange" and have someone shoot it at you and see what happens.

That'll settle the question for you.

On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:26:44 -0500, Boater wrote:

wrote:
On Dec 6, 3:16 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:07:05 -0800 (PST),
wrote:





On Dec 6, 3:04 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:15:56 -0800, (UglyDan®©™) wrote:
LOL, Yeah that would work, Then again I suppose you could get the
reverse effect with some individuals.
FWIW I very rarely shoot .357's its hard on my K-frame revolvers. When I
shoot wheelgun matches I use 151 gr RN Super .38's I load into .38
special cases. UD
Mine is an S&W Mod 28-2. I don't often fire .357 rounds through it. Usually
it's just .38 wadcutters. I've got hundreds of those damn things from when
I had two brothers who were cops.
This isn't mine, but it's the same pistol.
http://www.bayourovers.com/SmithWessonModel28-2.jpg
--
John H.
I am not a firearm guy, but it doesn't look like a very efficient
piece of equipment. Not trying to be an ass, just sayin'...
Well, how do you define 'efficient'? It does what I've wanted it to do, and
it was a gift from a cop.

It's not as efficient at some things as at others. All depends...
--
John H.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I dunno, it looks like it has a pretty short barrel so unless someone
is a pretty good shot, my understanding is that a weapon like this is
not good for anything beyond a few feet. Hard to handle too I would
imagine, must have a hell of a muzzle lift, but again, I don't know
from firearms

But as you yourself say, you don't know from firearms.

So, it isn't good for anything beyond a few feet. Why not stand 15 feet
"downrange" and have someone shoot it at you and see what happens.

That'll settle the question for you.

Harry, why not go back to bed and quit being a smart-ass all day?
--
John H.

On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:13:58 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

OK, I know nothing about guns. Why is dry firing bad?

Depends on the gun. When firing a live round the firing pin strikes
soft brass. Dry firing can, with some guns, result in steel striking
steel, with battering.

Casady

Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:13:58 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

OK, I know nothing about guns. Why is dry firing bad?

Depends on the gun. When firing a live round the firing pin strikes
soft brass. Dry firing can, with some guns, result in steel striking
steel, with battering.

Casady


The operative phrase is "...with some guns..." With most modern
semi-auto centerfire pistols, it is a non-issue, because all the firing
pin hits without a round in pipe is...air.

And the manual for one of my Ruger "six-shooters" sez:

DRY-FIRING: Going through the actions of cocking, aiming, and pulling
the trigger of an unloaded gun is known as “Dry Firing.” It can be
useful to learn the “feel” of your revolver. Be certain the revolver is
unloaded and that the gun is pointing in a safe direction even when
practicing by dry-firing. The Ruger New Model revolvers can be dry-fired
without damage to the firing pin or other components.

But...what would Ruger know about guns that could compete with the
knowledge of "rec.boat.experts"?

On Dec 6, 3:16*pm, wrote:
On Dec 6, 3:11*pm, Gene wrote:





On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:02:52 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
On Dec 5, 1:54*pm, Gene Kearns
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|I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
|wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.

Generally, it doesn't do any good to the trigger, hammer, striker or
firing pin, and any associated wearing parts.

So generally it's a dumb thing to do with the only benefit being to
the ego of very insecure or stupid people?

From a mechanical stand point I would agree "So generally it's a dumb
thing to do," but I would stop short of trying to divine another
person's motivations for doing so. Why don't you just advise them
against it?
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Noted... But far be it from me to advise the wise one about anything.
Like I said, when around folks who I feel are not qualified to handle
firearms, I just leave. Now I have to go, my kid and I are going out
back to work with our weapons of choice.... And I don't mean
motorcycles in this instance. My daughter has decided she wants to
train, here's a hint, I bet Loogie has worked with these things here
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Indeed!

On Dec 6, 3:41*pm, "Don White" wrote:
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On Dec 6, 3:11 pm, Gene wrote:





On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:02:52 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
On Dec 5, 1:54 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:

| OK, I know nothing about guns. Why is dry firing bad?- Hide quoted
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|I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
|wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.

Generally, it doesn't do any good to the trigger, hammer, striker or
firing pin, and any associated wearing parts.

So generally it's a dumb thing to do with the only benefit being to
the ego of very insecure or stupid people?

From a mechanical stand point I would agree "So generally it's a dumb
thing to do," but I would stop short of trying to divine another
person's motivations for doing so. Why don't you just advise them
against it?
--

Noted... But far be it from me to advise the wise one about anything.
Like I said, when around folks who I feel are not qualified to handle
firearms, I just leave. Now I have to go, my kid and I are going out
back to work with our weapons of choice.... And I don't mean
motorcycles in this instance. My daughter has decided she wants to
train, here's a hint, I bet Loogie has worked with these things here
or there.

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And Don ruins yet another thread trying to be like his lover/clone/
master Harry.

On Dec 7, 1:21*am, "CRM" wrote:
wrote in message

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I dunno, it looks like it has a pretty short barrel so unless someone
is a pretty good shot, my understanding is that a weapon like this is
not good for anything beyond a few feet.
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Here's a grouping free hand at 25 yards (75 feet for you backwoodsers)http://www.dezendorf.us/photos/M2801.jpg

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*Hard to handle too I would imagine, must have a hell of a muzzle lift
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For a little guy, maybe.

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*but again, I don't know from firearms...
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Then why not STFU?

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And unlike my new troll CRM, I was not trying to pick
a fight, but you already knew that...
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Why should he "know" that?

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*I am just a tool ........
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I just thought other weapons would be better.
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Why? You already said you know nothing about firearms.

Wow, you are a nice little troll... you are dismissed, now crawl back
under your desk and get back to your google brains..

On Dec 7, 7:23*am, JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 06:21:49 GMT, "CRM" wrote:

wrote in message
...

I dunno, it looks like it has a pretty short barrel so unless someone
is a pretty good shot, my understanding is that a weapon like this is
not good for anything beyond a few feet.
-----------------------------------------------

Here's a grouping free hand at 25 yards (75 feet for you backwoodsers)
http://www.dezendorf.us/photos/M2801.jpg

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Hard to handle too I would imagine, must have a hell of a muzzle lift
--------------------------------------------------------------------

For a little guy, maybe.

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but again, I don't know from firearms...
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Then why not STFU?

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And unlike my new troll CRM, I was not trying to pick
a fight, but you already knew that...
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Why should he "know" that?

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I am just a tool ........
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I just thought other weapons would be better.
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Why? You already said you know nothing about firearms.

Scotty asked a reasonable question in a reasonable manner. He wasn't making
any comments to or about you, so why the assinine response?
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Didn't you know, he is the latest loser to troll for internet
victories! These guys must be complete failures at home. Let him have
his fun, maybe it will keep him from beating his wife or kids...