On Dec 5, 1:13*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Dec 5, 12:58 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:





On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
| How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
| but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
| be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| course/mental evaluation first?
|
|I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
|don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
|that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.

I've always considered dry firing a weapon a really bad idea...... I
just wouldn't do it....

If I come to answer the door, I'm not taking the gun out, just to do
so.....

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OK, I know nothing about guns. *Why is dry firing bad?- Hide quoted text -

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I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.

On Dec 5, 1:21 pm, wrote:
On Dec 5, 1:13 pm, Frogwatch wrote:



On Dec 5, 12:58 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
| How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
| but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
| be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| course/mental evaluation first?
|
|I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
|don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
|that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.

I've always considered dry firing a weapon a really bad idea...... I
just wouldn't do it....

If I come to answer the door, I'm not taking the gun out, just to do
so.....

--
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OK, I know nothing about guns. Why is dry firing bad?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.

Are firing pins generally replaceable?

Frogwatch wrote:
On Dec 5, 1:21 pm, wrote:
On Dec 5, 1:13 pm, Frogwatch wrote:



On Dec 5, 12:58 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
| How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
| but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
| be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| course/mental evaluation first?
|
|I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
|don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
|that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.
I've always considered dry firing a weapon a really bad idea...... I
just wouldn't do it....
If I come to answer the door, I'm not taking the gun out, just to do
so.....
--
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OK, I know nothing about guns. Why is dry firing bad?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.

Are firing pins generally replaceable?

And cheap, too. It's not a problem.

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:39:52 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Dec 5, 1:21 pm, wrote:
| On Dec 5, 1:13 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
|
|
|
| On Dec 5, 12:58 pm, Gene Kearns
| wrote:
|
| On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), penned
| the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|
| |On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
| | How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and dryfiring
| | while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty stupid,
| | but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like that
| | be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of safety
| | course/mental evaluation first?
| |
| |I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership. I
| |don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take someone
| |that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded weapon.
|
| I've always considered dry firing a weapon a really bad idea...... I
| just wouldn't do it....
|
| If I come to answer the door, I'm not taking the gun out, just to do
| so.....
|
| --
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| Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.
|
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| OK, I know nothing about guns. Why is dry firing bad?- Hide quoted text -
|
| - Show quoted text -
|
| I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
| wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.
|
|Are firing pins generally replaceable?

Yeah.... figure $50 plus labor..... plus any a$$ociated worn parts and
labor.....



There's very little chance of damaging the parts of a modern semi-auto
centerfire pistol via dry-firing. This subject is discussed ad nauseum
on the gun boards, especially when brought up by newbies.

It's not an issue for any of my semi-auto centerfires. I've read
somewhere it might not be a good idea to dry fire rimfire weapons.

Loogy the assclown..perfect.

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:39:52 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Dec 5, 1:21 pm, wrote:
| On Dec 5, 1:13 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
|
|
|
| On Dec 5, 12:58 pm, Gene Kearns

| wrote:
|
| On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:54:32 -0800 (PST),
penned
| the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|
| |On Dec 5, 11:51 am, wrote:
| | How many of you would play with your weapons, racking and
dryfiring
| | while talking on the phone to somebody? To me that is pretty
stupid,
| | but I am not a gun guy... What do you think, should someone like
that
| | be allowed to have handguns or should there be some kind of
safety
| | course/mental evaluation first?
| |
| |I think a mental evaluation should be mandatory for gun ownership.
I
| |don't want people around me with guns that are unstable. Take
someone
| |that is so paranoid that they answer their door with a loaded
weapon.
|
| I've always considered dry firing a weapon a really bad idea......
I
| just wouldn't do it....
|
| If I come to answer the door, I'm not taking the gun out, just to
do
| so.....
|
| --
| Agent 5.00 Build 1159
| Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.
|
| Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/
|
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| OK, I know nothing about guns. Why is dry firing bad?- Hide quoted
text -
|
| - Show quoted text -
|
| I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
| wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.
|
|Are firing pins generally replaceable?

Yeah.... figure $50 plus labor..... plus any a$$ociated worn parts and
labor.....

--
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On a rifle or maybe the newer drop safe pistols, but to change a hammer
because you broke the pin, would probably be more expensive. There are snap
caps to install in the weapon to prevent problems. You can make one by
removing the primer from the cartridge and installing a pencil erasure.
Paint the cartridge a different color.

LoogyPickerwrote
I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.

Correct, and thats one of the reasons I use snap caps. not so much with
semi-auto but
on centerfire revolvers with spurred hammers,
dryfiring rimfire pistol/rifles is always a bad idea, UD

On Dec 5, 1:54*pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:

| OK, I know nothing about guns. *Why is dry firing bad?- Hide quoted text -
|
| - Show quoted text -
|
|I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
|wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.

Generally, it doesn't do any good to the trigger, hammer, striker or
firing pin, and any associated wearing parts.


So generally it's a dumb thing to do with the only benefit being to
the ego of very insecure or stupid people?

On Dec 6, 3:11*pm, Gene wrote:
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:02:52 -0800 (PST),





wrote:
On Dec 5, 1:54*pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:

| OK, I know nothing about guns. *Why is dry firing bad?- Hide quoted text -
|
| - Show quoted text -
|
|I don't know this for fact, but I think one thing would be excessive
|wear from the pin bottoming out because there is no resistence.

Generally, it doesn't do any good to the trigger, hammer, striker or
firing pin, and any associated wearing parts.

So generally it's a dumb thing to do with the only benefit being to
the ego of very insecure or stupid people?

From a mechanical stand point I would agree "So generally it's a dumb
thing to do," but I would stop short of trying to divine another
person's motivations for doing so. Why don't you just advise them
against it?
--

Noted... But far be it from me to advise the wise one about anything.
Like I said, when around folks who I feel are not qualified to handle
firearms, I just leave. Now I have to go, my kid and I are going out
back to work with our weapons of choice.... And I don't mean
motorcycles in this instance. My daughter has decided she wants to
train, here's a hint, I bet Loogie has worked with these things here
or there.

On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:13:58 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

OK, I know nothing about guns. Why is dry firing bad?

Depends on the gun. When firing a live round the firing pin strikes
soft brass. Dry firing can, with some guns, result in steel striking
steel, with battering.

Casady

Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:13:58 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

OK, I know nothing about guns. Why is dry firing bad?

Depends on the gun. When firing a live round the firing pin strikes
soft brass. Dry firing can, with some guns, result in steel striking
steel, with battering.

Casady


The operative phrase is "...with some guns..." With most modern
semi-auto centerfire pistols, it is a non-issue, because all the firing
pin hits without a round in pipe is...air.

And the manual for one of my Ruger "six-shooters" sez:

DRY-FIRING: Going through the actions of cocking, aiming, and pulling
the trigger of an unloaded gun is known as “Dry Firing.” It can be
useful to learn the “feel” of your revolver. Be certain the revolver is
unloaded and that the gun is pointing in a safe direction even when
practicing by dry-firing. The Ruger New Model revolvers can be dry-fired
without damage to the firing pin or other components.

But...what would Ruger know about guns that could compete with the
knowledge of "rec.boat.experts"?