Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry
can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has
lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even
speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in
this issue.

Here is the question in English:

Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it
possible for companies to intimidate workers?? Can you explain how
not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to
their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and
asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ??

Thanks, Just Wait...

wrote:
Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry
can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has
lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even
speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in
this issue.

Here is the question in English:

Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it
possible for companies to intimidate workers?? Can you explain how
not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to
their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and
asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ??

Thanks, Just Wait...


The problem is, you simply do not understand what Reich was alluding
to...it wasn't the ballot itself, but what happens in the intimidating
processes perpetrated by employers leading up to the vote. Employers
will do whatever they can to chill the pro-union vote, even when there
are more than enough cards to secure an election.

I must say, I've gotten a kick over the years of the anti-unionism
expressed here by guys who couldn't qualify as an apprentice to most
union workers.

On Nov 25, 10:45*am, Boater wrote:
wrote:
Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry
can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has
lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even
speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in
this issue.

Here is the question in English:

Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it
possible for companies to intimidate workers?? *Can you explain how
not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to
their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and
asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ??

Thanks, Just Wait...

The problem is, you simply do not understand what Reich was alluding
to...it wasn't the ballot itself, but what happens in the intimidating
processes perpetrated by employers leading up to the vote. Employers
will do whatever they can to chill the pro-union vote, even when there
are more than enough cards to secure an election.

Can you lead me to any credible news reports or court cases? I can for
union intimidation..


I must say, I've gotten a kick over the years of the anti-unionism
expressed here by guys who couldn't qualify as an apprentice to most
union workers.

My dad was a Teamster for nearly 50 years, I paid my own Teamster dues
too.. So your still full of ****, unless the elites put union dock
workers into a different catergory than union "management"... When
you have actually spent time in the 135 degree warehouse, or the -20
degree chicken room, come talk to me. And I don't mean drining coffee
with the suits in the climate controled office. You see Harry, I have
been there, you just wouldn't understand...

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"Boater" wrote in message
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wrote:
Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry
can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has
lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even
speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in
this issue.

Here is the question in English:

Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it
possible for companies to intimidate workers?? Can you explain how
not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to
their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and
asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ??

Thanks, Just Wait...


The problem is, you simply do not understand what Reich was alluding
to...it wasn't the ballot itself, but what happens in the intimidating
processes perpetrated by employers leading up to the vote. Employers will
do whatever they can to chill the pro-union vote, even when there are more
than enough cards to secure an election.

I must say, I've gotten a kick over the years of the anti-unionism
expressed here by guys who couldn't qualify as an apprentice to most union
workers.

Why can't the secret vote be taken in a much more timely manor?

On Nov 25, 10:45*am, Boater wrote:
wrote:
Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry
can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has
lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even
speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in
this issue.

Here is the question in English:

Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it
possible for companies to intimidate workers?? *Can you explain how
not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to
their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and
asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ??

Thanks, Just Wait...

The problem is, you simply do not understand what Reich was alluding
to...it wasn't the ballot itself, but what happens in the intimidating
processes perpetrated by employers leading up to the vote. Employers
will do whatever they can to chill the pro-union vote, even when there
are more than enough cards to secure an election.


Of course the employers don't want the union to get established. Why
would anyone want to suffer the same fate as the Big 3 automakers are,
having been sucked dry by the UAW?

It's funny to hear the pro-union trash on this NG whine about
intimidation. That's exactly how unions exist... through
intimidation. "Give us another raise and increase our benefits, or we
go on strike!"

D.Duck wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry
can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has
lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even
speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in
this issue.

Here is the question in English:

Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it
possible for companies to intimidate workers?? Can you explain how
not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to
their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and
asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ??

Thanks, Just Wait...

The problem is, you simply do not understand what Reich was alluding
to...it wasn't the ballot itself, but what happens in the intimidating
processes perpetrated by employers leading up to the vote. Employers will
do whatever they can to chill the pro-union vote, even when there are more
than enough cards to secure an election.

I must say, I've gotten a kick over the years of the anti-unionism
expressed here by guys who couldn't qualify as an apprentice to most union
workers.

Why can't the secret vote be taken in a much more timely manor?



Without getting into a presentation of a dissertation, let me just say
that in the last eight years the Bush Admin has stacked the deck against
unions in terms of union elections, decerts, allowing employer
intimidation, employer delays and packing the NLRB courts. Some of that
will change with the new administration, and if it does, and the playing
field is fairer, there will be less call for card certifications.

In recent years, a favorite tactic of employers has been to refuse to
negotiate in good faith, even after a union has won a rep election.

If you are interested in the subject, there's a decent synopsis here
under union busting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_busting


I must say, I am much more a fan of the old-fashioned school of union
organizing. What happens today is far too "white collar-ish" for my taste.

"Boater" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry
can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has
lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even
speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in
this issue.

Here is the question in English:

Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it
possible for companies to intimidate workers?? Can you explain how
not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to
their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and
asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ??

Thanks, Just Wait...

The problem is, you simply do not understand what Reich was alluding
to...it wasn't the ballot itself, but what happens in the intimidating
processes perpetrated by employers leading up to the vote. Employers
will do whatever they can to chill the pro-union vote, even when there
are more than enough cards to secure an election.

I must say, I've gotten a kick over the years of the anti-unionism
expressed here by guys who couldn't qualify as an apprentice to most
union workers.

Why can't the secret vote be taken in a much more timely manor?

Without getting into a presentation of a dissertation, let me just say
that in the last eight years the Bush Admin has stacked the deck against
unions in terms of union elections, decerts, allowing employer
intimidation, employer delays and packing the NLRB courts. Some of that
will change with the new administration, and if it does, and the playing
field is fairer, there will be less call for card certifications.

In recent years, a favorite tactic of employers has been to refuse to
negotiate in good faith, even after a union has won a rep election.

If you are interested in the subject, there's a decent synopsis here under
union busting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_busting


I must say, I am much more a fan of the old-fashioned school of union
organizing. What happens today is far too "white collar-ish" for my taste.

I think you avoided my question.

D.Duck wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
D.Duck wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry
can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has
lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even
speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in
this issue.

Here is the question in English:

Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it
possible for companies to intimidate workers?? Can you explain how
not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to
their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and
asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ??

Thanks, Just Wait...
The problem is, you simply do not understand what Reich was alluding
to...it wasn't the ballot itself, but what happens in the intimidating
processes perpetrated by employers leading up to the vote. Employers
will do whatever they can to chill the pro-union vote, even when there
are more than enough cards to secure an election.

I must say, I've gotten a kick over the years of the anti-unionism
expressed here by guys who couldn't qualify as an apprentice to most
union workers.
Why can't the secret vote be taken in a much more timely manor?
Without getting into a presentation of a dissertation, let me just say
that in the last eight years the Bush Admin has stacked the deck against
unions in terms of union elections, decerts, allowing employer
intimidation, employer delays and packing the NLRB courts. Some of that
will change with the new administration, and if it does, and the playing
field is fairer, there will be less call for card certifications.

In recent years, a favorite tactic of employers has been to refuse to
negotiate in good faith, even after a union has won a rep election.

If you are interested in the subject, there's a decent synopsis here under
union busting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_busting


I must say, I am much more a fan of the old-fashioned school of union
organizing. What happens today is far too "white collar-ish" for my taste.

I think you avoided my question.




You missed the part about employer delays?

Boater wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry
can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has
lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even
speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in
this issue.

Here is the question in English:

Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it
possible for companies to intimidate workers?? Can you explain how
not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to
their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and
asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ??

Thanks, Just Wait...

The problem is, you simply do not understand what Reich was alluding
to...it wasn't the ballot itself, but what happens in the
intimidating processes perpetrated by employers leading up to the
vote. Employers will do whatever they can to chill the pro-union
vote, even when there are more than enough cards to secure an election.

I must say, I've gotten a kick over the years of the anti-unionism
expressed here by guys who couldn't qualify as an apprentice to most
union workers.

Why can't the secret vote be taken in a much more timely manor?


Without getting into a presentation of a dissertation, let me just say
that in the last eight years the Bush Admin has stacked the deck against
unions in terms of union elections, decerts, allowing employer
intimidation, employer delays and packing the NLRB courts. Some of that
will change with the new administration, and if it does, and the playing
field is fairer, there will be less call for card certifications.

In recent years, a favorite tactic of employers has been to refuse to
negotiate in good faith, even after a union has won a rep election.

If you are interested in the subject, there's a decent synopsis here
under union busting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_busting

I must say, I am much more a fan of the old-fashioned school of union
organizing. What happens today is far too "white collar-ish" for my taste.




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Of course the employers don't want the union to get established. Why
would anyone want to suffer the same fate as the Big 3 automakers are,
having been sucked dry by the UAW?

It's funny to hear the pro-union trash on this NG whine about
intimidation. That's exactly how unions exist... through
intimidation. "Give us another raise and increase our benefits, or we
go on strike!"

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You best stick to something you know...such as pleasuring the 'palm
sisters'.

In the last number of years where I worked, it was about continual
concessions.. one way of course with the unions on the losing end.
In the background ...always threats the location could be downsized.