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Hey Eisboch, SW Tom...!!!
Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry
can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in this issue. Here is the question in English: Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it possible for companies to intimidate workers?? Can you explain how not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ?? Thanks, Just Wait... |
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Hey Eisboch, SW Tom...!!!
On Nov 25, 10:45*am, Boater wrote:
wrote: Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in this issue. Here is the question in English: Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it possible for companies to intimidate workers?? *Can you explain how not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ?? Thanks, Just Wait... The problem is, you simply do not understand what Reich was alluding to...it wasn't the ballot itself, but what happens in the intimidating processes perpetrated by employers leading up to the vote. Employers will do whatever they can to chill the pro-union vote, even when there are more than enough cards to secure an election. Can you lead me to any credible news reports or court cases? I can for union intimidation.. I must say, I've gotten a kick over the years of the anti-unionism expressed here by guys who couldn't qualify as an apprentice to most union workers. My dad was a Teamster for nearly 50 years, I paid my own Teamster dues too.. So your still full of ****, unless the elites put union dock workers into a different catergory than union "management"... When you have actually spent time in the 135 degree warehouse, or the -20 degree chicken room, come talk to me. And I don't mean drining coffee with the suits in the climate controled office. You see Harry, I have been there, you just wouldn't understand... - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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Hey Eisboch, SW Tom...!!!
"Boater" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... wrote: Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in this issue. Here is the question in English: Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it possible for companies to intimidate workers?? Can you explain how not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ?? Thanks, Just Wait... The problem is, you simply do not understand what Reich was alluding to...it wasn't the ballot itself, but what happens in the intimidating processes perpetrated by employers leading up to the vote. Employers will do whatever they can to chill the pro-union vote, even when there are more than enough cards to secure an election. I must say, I've gotten a kick over the years of the anti-unionism expressed here by guys who couldn't qualify as an apprentice to most union workers. Why can't the secret vote be taken in a much more timely manor? Without getting into a presentation of a dissertation, let me just say that in the last eight years the Bush Admin has stacked the deck against unions in terms of union elections, decerts, allowing employer intimidation, employer delays and packing the NLRB courts. Some of that will change with the new administration, and if it does, and the playing field is fairer, there will be less call for card certifications. In recent years, a favorite tactic of employers has been to refuse to negotiate in good faith, even after a union has won a rep election. If you are interested in the subject, there's a decent synopsis here under union busting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_busting I must say, I am much more a fan of the old-fashioned school of union organizing. What happens today is far too "white collar-ish" for my taste. I think you avoided my question. |
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Hey Eisboch, SW Tom...!!!
D.Duck wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... wrote: Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in this issue. Here is the question in English: Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it possible for companies to intimidate workers?? Can you explain how not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ?? Thanks, Just Wait... The problem is, you simply do not understand what Reich was alluding to...it wasn't the ballot itself, but what happens in the intimidating processes perpetrated by employers leading up to the vote. Employers will do whatever they can to chill the pro-union vote, even when there are more than enough cards to secure an election. I must say, I've gotten a kick over the years of the anti-unionism expressed here by guys who couldn't qualify as an apprentice to most union workers. Why can't the secret vote be taken in a much more timely manor? Without getting into a presentation of a dissertation, let me just say that in the last eight years the Bush Admin has stacked the deck against unions in terms of union elections, decerts, allowing employer intimidation, employer delays and packing the NLRB courts. Some of that will change with the new administration, and if it does, and the playing field is fairer, there will be less call for card certifications. In recent years, a favorite tactic of employers has been to refuse to negotiate in good faith, even after a union has won a rep election. If you are interested in the subject, there's a decent synopsis here under union busting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_busting I must say, I am much more a fan of the old-fashioned school of union organizing. What happens today is far too "white collar-ish" for my taste. I think you avoided my question. You missed the part about employer delays? |
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Hey Eisboch, SW Tom...!!!
D.Duck wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... wrote: Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in this issue. Here is the question in English: Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it possible for companies to intimidate workers?? Can you explain how not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ?? Thanks, Just Wait... The problem is, you simply do not understand what Reich was alluding to...it wasn't the ballot itself, but what happens in the intimidating processes perpetrated by employers leading up to the vote. Employers will do whatever they can to chill the pro-union vote, even when there are more than enough cards to secure an election. I must say, I've gotten a kick over the years of the anti-unionism expressed here by guys who couldn't qualify as an apprentice to most union workers. Why can't the secret vote be taken in a much more timely manor? Without getting into a presentation of a dissertation, let me just say that in the last eight years the Bush Admin has stacked the deck against unions in terms of union elections, decerts, allowing employer intimidation, employer delays and packing the NLRB courts. Some of that will change with the new administration, and if it does, and the playing field is fairer, there will be less call for card certifications. In recent years, a favorite tactic of employers has been to refuse to negotiate in good faith, even after a union has won a rep election. If you are interested in the subject, there's a decent synopsis here under union busting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_busting I must say, I am much more a fan of the old-fashioned school of union organizing. What happens today is far too "white collar-ish" for my taste. I think you avoided my question. This is what he's talking about http://www.unionfacts.com/ |
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Hey Eisboch, SW Tom...!!!
On Nov 25, 11:29*am, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... wrote: Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in this issue. Here is the question in English: Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it possible for companies to intimidate workers?? *Can you explain how not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ?? Thanks, Just Wait... The problem is, you simply do not understand what Reich was alluding to...it wasn't the ballot itself, but what happens in the intimidating processes perpetrated by employers leading up to the vote. Employers will do whatever they can to chill the pro-union vote, even when there are more than enough cards to secure an election. I must say, I've gotten a kick over the years of the anti-unionism expressed here by guys who couldn't qualify as an apprentice to most union workers. Why can't the secret vote be taken in a much more timely manor? Without getting into a presentation of a dissertation, let me just say that in the last eight years the Bush Admin has stacked the deck against unions in terms of union elections, decerts, allowing employer intimidation, employer delays and packing the NLRB courts. Some of that will change with the new administration, and if it does, and the playing field is fairer, there will be less call for card certifications. In recent years, a favorite tactic of employers has been to refuse to negotiate in good faith, even after a union has won a rep election. If you are interested in the subject, there's a decent synopsis here under union busting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_busting I must say, I am much more a fan of the old-fashioned school of union organizing. What happens today is far too "white collar-ish" for my taste. I think you avoided my question.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What's new? That's the low life's M.O. |
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Hey Eisboch, SW Tom...!!!
Boater wrote:
D.Duck wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... wrote: Would one of you please put this question into a form that even Harry can understand so we can get an answer? Apparently the Elite left has lost so much touch with the middle class in America, they don't even speak English anymore.. Thank you, I am sure others are interested in this issue. Here is the question in English: Just watching CNN. Robert Reich is saying the secret ballot makes it possible for companies to intimidate workers?? Can you explain how not knowing how someone votes can create intimidation, and going to their homes, with their wives and children home with a ballot and asking them to check off a box in front of union thugs doesn't ?? Thanks, Just Wait... The problem is, you simply do not understand what Reich was alluding to...it wasn't the ballot itself, but what happens in the intimidating processes perpetrated by employers leading up to the vote. Employers will do whatever they can to chill the pro-union vote, even when there are more than enough cards to secure an election. I must say, I've gotten a kick over the years of the anti-unionism expressed here by guys who couldn't qualify as an apprentice to most union workers. Why can't the secret vote be taken in a much more timely manor? Without getting into a presentation of a dissertation, let me just say that in the last eight years the Bush Admin has stacked the deck against unions in terms of union elections, decerts, allowing employer intimidation, employer delays and packing the NLRB courts. Some of that will change with the new administration, and if it does, and the playing field is fairer, there will be less call for card certifications. In recent years, a favorite tactic of employers has been to refuse to negotiate in good faith, even after a union has won a rep election. If you are interested in the subject, there's a decent synopsis here under union busting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_busting I must say, I am much more a fan of the old-fashioned school of union organizing. What happens today is far too "white collar-ish" for my taste. http://www.unionfacts.com/ Like this |
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