Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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The military hardware that would impress me is "intel." It doesn't
matter what hardware toys you have so long as your intel sucks.
Ours sucks.



Everything to do with America sucks to you. You've made that very
clear.

Eisboch

Absolutely, completely wrong. The country is great...but our current
top political leadership in the White House sucks.

Oh. Sorry. I thought you just said our intel sucks.
Oh, wait. You *did*.

Eisboch

Our intel does suck. It sucks because for the last eight years we have
been depending upon do-dads and torture instead of highly trained,
multi-lingual assets.

How about a big round of suck for Congress as long as you are in a sucky
mood.

Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

The military hardware that would impress me is "intel." It doesn't
matter what hardware toys you have so long as your intel sucks.
Ours sucks.



Everything to do with America sucks to you. You've made that very
clear.

Eisboch

Absolutely, completely wrong. The country is great...but our current
top political leadership in the White House sucks.

Oh. Sorry. I thought you just said our intel sucks.
Oh, wait. You *did*.

Eisboch

Our intel does suck. It sucks because for the last eight years we have
been depending upon do-dads and torture instead of highly trained,
multi-lingual assets.

How about a big round of suck for Congress as long as you are in a sucky
mood.


Fear not...in January, the plans begin to wind down our era of stupidity
in Iraq.

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

The military hardware that would impress me is "intel." It doesn't
matter what hardware toys you have so long as your intel sucks. Ours
sucks.



Everything to do with America sucks to you. You've made that very
clear.

Eisboch

Absolutely, completely wrong. The country is great...but our current
top political leadership in the White House sucks.

Oh. Sorry. I thought you just said our intel sucks.
Oh, wait. You *did*.

Eisboch

Our intel does suck. It sucks because for the last eight years we have
been depending upon do-dads and torture instead of highly trained,
multi-lingual assets.

How about a big round of suck for Congress as long as you are in a sucky
mood.


Fear not...in January, the plans begin to wind down our era of stupidity
in Iraq.


I will make this prediction:

Obama will withdraw us from Iraq on the same time line and schedule that the
Bush administration has already established.

Like under Bush, it will be based on the recommendations of military
commanders on the ground and foreign policy experts. There may be a big
deal made of bringing home a few thousand troops at a time to give the
appearance of honoring his campaign commitment, but for all intents and
purposes it will still be the existing withdrawal plan.

If Obama tries to play General, overrules his advisors, pulls out too
quickly and any stability that has been accomplished in Iraq dissolves, he
will have his first major foreign policy blunder.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

The military hardware that would impress me is "intel." It doesn't
matter what hardware toys you have so long as your intel sucks. Ours
sucks.


Everything to do with America sucks to you. You've made that very
clear.

Eisboch
Absolutely, completely wrong. The country is great...but our current
top political leadership in the White House sucks.
Oh. Sorry. I thought you just said our intel sucks.
Oh, wait. You *did*.

Eisboch

Our intel does suck. It sucks because for the last eight years we have
been depending upon do-dads and torture instead of highly trained,
multi-lingual assets.
How about a big round of suck for Congress as long as you are in a sucky
mood.

Fear not...in January, the plans begin to wind down our era of stupidity
in Iraq.


I will make this prediction:

Obama will withdraw us from Iraq on the same time line and schedule that the
Bush administration has already established.

Like under Bush, it will be based on the recommendations of military
commanders on the ground and foreign policy experts. There may be a big
deal made of bringing home a few thousand troops at a time to give the
appearance of honoring his campaign commitment, but for all intents and
purposes it will still be the existing withdrawal plan.

If Obama tries to play General, overrules his advisors, pulls out too
quickly and any stability that has been accomplished in Iraq dissolves, he
will have his first major foreign policy blunder.

Eisboch





Whatever passes for stability in Iraq will end immediately upon our
departure, whenever that is.

"Boater" wrote in message
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Whatever passes for stability in Iraq will end immediately upon our
departure, whenever that is.

Doesn't that contradict your earlier position that the US military presense
isn't required and the Iraiqs can police themselves?

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Whatever passes for stability in Iraq will end immediately upon our
departure, whenever that is.

Doesn't that contradict your earlier position that the US military presense
isn't required and the Iraiqs can police themselves?

Eisboch


Not at all. Iraq isn't stable. I said "what passes for stability." As
soon as we leave, and we will, Iraq will become Iraq again.

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:35:10 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Whatever passes for stability in Iraq will end immediately upon our
departure, whenever that is.

Doesn't that contradict your earlier position that the US military presense
isn't required and the Iraiqs can police themselves?

Eisboch


Not at all. Iraq isn't stable. I said "what passes for stability." As
soon as we leave, and we will, Iraq will become Iraq again.

There's an answer for that. Something about 100 years.

--Vic

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Whatever passes for stability in Iraq will end immediately upon our
departure, whenever that is.

Doesn't that contradict your earlier position that the US military presense
isn't required and the Iraiqs can police themselves?

Eisboch



Cue the crickets....

WAFA won't be able to spin that one.

Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

The military hardware that would impress me is "intel." It
doesn't matter what hardware toys you have so long as your
intel sucks. Ours sucks.


Everything to do with America sucks to you. You've made that
very clear.

Eisboch
Absolutely, completely wrong. The country is great...but our
current top political leadership in the White House sucks.
Oh. Sorry. I thought you just said our intel sucks.
Oh, wait. You *did*.

Eisboch

Our intel does suck. It sucks because for the last eight years we
have been depending upon do-dads and torture instead of highly
trained, multi-lingual assets.
How about a big round of suck for Congress as long as you are in a
sucky mood.

Fear not...in January, the plans begin to wind down our era of
stupidity in Iraq.


I will make this prediction:

Obama will withdraw us from Iraq on the same time line and schedule
that the Bush administration has already established.

Like under Bush, it will be based on the recommendations of military
commanders on the ground and foreign policy experts. There may be a
big deal made of bringing home a few thousand troops at a time to give
the appearance of honoring his campaign commitment, but for all
intents and purposes it will still be the existing withdrawal plan.

If Obama tries to play General, overrules his advisors, pulls out too
quickly and any stability that has been accomplished in Iraq
dissolves, he will have his first major foreign policy blunder.

Eisboch





Whatever passes for stability in Iraq will end immediately upon our
departure, whenever that is.

Now there's a generic statement. Thanks for sharing your amazing insight!

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:40:49 -0500, DK wrote:

Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

The military hardware that would impress me is "intel." It
doesn't matter what hardware toys you have so long as your
intel sucks. Ours sucks.


Everything to do with America sucks to you. You've made that
very clear.

Eisboch
Absolutely, completely wrong. The country is great...but our
current top political leadership in the White House sucks.
Oh. Sorry. I thought you just said our intel sucks.
Oh, wait. You *did*.

Eisboch

Our intel does suck. It sucks because for the last eight years we
have been depending upon do-dads and torture instead of highly
trained, multi-lingual assets.
How about a big round of suck for Congress as long as you are in a
sucky mood.

Fear not...in January, the plans begin to wind down our era of
stupidity in Iraq.


I will make this prediction:

Obama will withdraw us from Iraq on the same time line and schedule
that the Bush administration has already established.

Like under Bush, it will be based on the recommendations of military
commanders on the ground and foreign policy experts. There may be a
big deal made of bringing home a few thousand troops at a time to give
the appearance of honoring his campaign commitment, but for all
intents and purposes it will still be the existing withdrawal plan.

If Obama tries to play General, overrules his advisors, pulls out too
quickly and any stability that has been accomplished in Iraq
dissolves, he will have his first major foreign policy blunder.

Eisboch





Whatever passes for stability in Iraq will end immediately upon our
departure, whenever that is.

Now there's a generic statement. Thanks for sharing your amazing insight!

The liberals actually pray for that. If Iraq remains peaceful, they lose
much face.
--
John H.