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Political: Let em fail
The Dems want to give 25 Billion to their friends at GM while GM
builds the worst sorta crap I have ever seen. Their unions and management deserve to fail for giving us such garbage. They have designed the worst sort of vehicles that nobody wants when gas prices are high and their quality is still on the bottom. The unions priced themselves out of work and the management allowed short term thinking that produced the gas hogs they cannot give away. No bailouts for Bull****. |
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Frogwatch wrote:
The Dems want to give 25 Billion to their friends at GM while GM builds the worst sorta crap I have ever seen. Their unions and management deserve to fail for giving us such garbage. They have designed the worst sort of vehicles that nobody wants when gas prices are high and their quality is still on the bottom. The unions priced themselves out of work and the management allowed short term thinking that produced the gas hogs they cannot give away. No bailouts for Bull****. The Unions didn't do squat. The bean counters and Wall Street's demand for maximum spread and gambling did them in along with the rest of us. How come you idiots keep blaming American workers whether they are in a union or not. Obviously you are running a quicker mart or whatever and paying your wage slaves 7.50 an hour no benefits and fire them before 6 mos. |
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On Nov 14, 3:12*pm, tin cup wrote:
Frogwatch wrote: The Dems want to give 25 Billion to their friends at GM while GM builds the worst sorta crap I have ever seen. *Their unions and management deserve to fail for giving us such garbage. *They have designed the worst sort of vehicles that nobody wants when gas prices are high and their quality is still on the bottom. *The unions priced themselves out of work and the management allowed short term thinking that produced the gas hogs they cannot give away. *No bailouts for Bull****. The Unions didn't do squat. The bean counters and Wall Street's demand for maximum spread and gambling did them in along with the rest of us. How come you idiots keep blaming American workers whether they are in a union or not. Obviously you are running a quicker mart or whatever and paying your wage slaves 7.50 an hour no benefits and fire them before 6 mos. Labor costs are a big part of gm's problem. Unfortunately the unions, in their zeal, helped cause the problem. I mean let's face it, where else besides auto plants could you get $25 - $30 dollars an hour for semi-skilled labor. And the retirement programs are turning out to be extremely costly. They were not based on your condtributions into an account like today. They were fixed payouts based on your years of service. A lot of those semi-skilled laborers retired at a fairly young age and many get $50k or more a year in retirement. |
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"BAR" wrote in message ... Boater wrote: wrote: On Nov 14, 3:12 pm, tin cup wrote: Frogwatch wrote: The Dems want to give 25 Billion to their friends at GM while GM builds the worst sorta crap I have ever seen. Their unions and management deserve to fail for giving us such garbage. They have designed the worst sort of vehicles that nobody wants when gas prices are high and their quality is still on the bottom. The unions priced themselves out of work and the management allowed short term thinking that produced the gas hogs they cannot give away. No bailouts for Bull****. The Unions didn't do squat. The bean counters and Wall Street's demand for maximum spread and gambling did them in along with the rest of us. How come you idiots keep blaming American workers whether they are in a union or not. Obviously you are running a quicker mart or whatever and paying your wage slaves 7.50 an hour no benefits and fire them before 6 mos. Labor costs are a big part of gm's problem. Unfortunately the unions, in their zeal, helped cause the problem. I mean let's face it, where else besides auto plants could you get $25 - $30 dollars an hour for semi-skilled labor. And the retirement programs are turning out to be extremely costly. They were not based on your condtributions into an account like today. They were fixed payouts based on your years of service. A lot of those semi-skilled laborers retired at a fairly young age and many get $50k or more a year in retirement. What's your point, that a representative of assembly line works met at the bargaining table with the employer of those workers and negotiated a contract? Negotiated a contract? I don't believe that for a minute. That's the way it is supposed to be. Who are we going to threaten with a strike this year? The fix we are in right now has nothing to do with union workers and everything to do with the landed aristocracy in this country of Wall Street financial manipulators and corporate executives, and the hands-off regulatory style of the Bush Administration. Even now, the crooks in the Bush Administration won't tell us who is getting the bail-out money. It has to do with union labor. It's a wonder you know how to tie your shoelaces in the morning. It's the greed of everyone involved in the auto industry....led by the example of the senior management and the stupidity of the American consumer always wanting bigger & better when durability, practicality, efficiency and quality should have been the criteria. |
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tin cup wrote:
Frogwatch wrote: The Dems want to give 25 Billion to their friends at GM while GM builds the worst sorta crap I have ever seen. Their unions and management deserve to fail for giving us such garbage. They have designed the worst sort of vehicles that nobody wants when gas prices are high and their quality is still on the bottom. The unions priced themselves out of work and the management allowed short term thinking that produced the gas hogs they cannot give away. No bailouts for Bull****. The Unions didn't do squat. The bean counters and Wall Street's demand for maximum spread and gambling did them in along with the rest of us. How come you idiots keep blaming American workers whether they are in a union or not. Obviously you are running a quicker mart or whatever and paying your wage slaves 7.50 an hour no benefits and fire them before 6 mos. Why should a guy putting lug nuts on a wheel get a six figure income? |
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BAR wrote:
tin cup wrote: Frogwatch wrote: The Dems want to give 25 Billion to their friends at GM while GM builds the worst sorta crap I have ever seen. Their unions and management deserve to fail for giving us such garbage. They have designed the worst sort of vehicles that nobody wants when gas prices are high and their quality is still on the bottom. The unions priced themselves out of work and the management allowed short term thinking that produced the gas hogs they cannot give away. No bailouts for Bull****. The Unions didn't do squat. The bean counters and Wall Street's demand for maximum spread and gambling did them in along with the rest of us. How come you idiots keep blaming American workers whether they are in a union or not. Obviously you are running a quicker mart or whatever and paying your wage slaves 7.50 an hour no benefits and fire them before 6 mos. Why should a guy putting lug nuts on a wheel get a six figure income? Why should you have any job? |
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Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: tin cup wrote: Frogwatch wrote: The Dems want to give 25 Billion to their friends at GM while GM builds the worst sorta crap I have ever seen. Their unions and management deserve to fail for giving us such garbage. They have designed the worst sort of vehicles that nobody wants when gas prices are high and their quality is still on the bottom. The unions priced themselves out of work and the management allowed short term thinking that produced the gas hogs they cannot give away. No bailouts for Bull****. The Unions didn't do squat. The bean counters and Wall Street's demand for maximum spread and gambling did them in along with the rest of us. How come you idiots keep blaming American workers whether they are in a union or not. Obviously you are running a quicker mart or whatever and paying your wage slaves 7.50 an hour no benefits and fire them before 6 mos. Why should a guy putting lug nuts on a wheel get a six figure income? Why should you have any job? I provide value to the stockholders. |
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BAR wrote:
Boater wrote: BAR wrote: tin cup wrote: Frogwatch wrote: The Dems want to give 25 Billion to their friends at GM while GM builds the worst sorta crap I have ever seen. Their unions and management deserve to fail for giving us such garbage. They have designed the worst sort of vehicles that nobody wants when gas prices are high and their quality is still on the bottom. The unions priced themselves out of work and the management allowed short term thinking that produced the gas hogs they cannot give away. No bailouts for Bull****. The Unions didn't do squat. The bean counters and Wall Street's demand for maximum spread and gambling did them in along with the rest of us. How come you idiots keep blaming American workers whether they are in a union or not. Obviously you are running a quicker mart or whatever and paying your wage slaves 7.50 an hour no benefits and fire them before 6 mos. Why should a guy putting lug nuts on a wheel get a six figure income? Why should you have any job? I provide value to the stockholders. As what? Annual meeting clown? |
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