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Political: Let em fail
"Boater" wrote in message ... BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:03:32 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch wrote: The Dems want to give 25 Billion to their friends at GM while GM builds the worst sorta crap I have ever seen. Their unions and management deserve to fail for giving us such garbage. They have designed the worst sort of vehicles that nobody wants when gas prices are high and their quality is still on the bottom. The unions priced themselves out of work and the management allowed short term thinking that produced the gas hogs they cannot give away. No bailouts for Bull****. Unions and labor costs are not the problem, and never have been. Non union made toyotas and Hondas sell in greater numbers, despite being considerable MORE expensive. GM vehicles are crap. Honda's and Toyota's are good quality vehicles. GM cannot put the effort, money, into quality due to the costs they have to pay for union labor and union benefits. Yep...you are indeed simple-minded. You are always looking at the problem from the labor perspective and immediately assign blame to management. You are the simple-minded idiot. You need to look at it from all angles and find the cause of the problem. Corporations are run by management, not by the workers. Lately, management has been incompetent. It's that simple. Grossly overpaid incompetent management. Unbelieveable the compensation packages they receive while the industry heads for the dumpster. |
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Political: Let em fail
"Boater" wrote in message ... BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:03:32 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch wrote: The Dems want to give 25 Billion to their friends at GM while GM builds the worst sorta crap I have ever seen. Their unions and management deserve to fail for giving us such garbage. They have designed the worst sort of vehicles that nobody wants when gas prices are high and their quality is still on the bottom. The unions priced themselves out of work and the management allowed short term thinking that produced the gas hogs they cannot give away. No bailouts for Bull****. Unions and labor costs are not the problem, and never have been. Non union made toyotas and Hondas sell in greater numbers, despite being considerable MORE expensive. GM vehicles are crap. Honda's and Toyota's are good quality vehicles. GM cannot put the effort, money, into quality due to the costs they have to pay for union labor and union benefits. Yep...you are indeed simple-minded. You are always looking at the problem from the labor perspective and immediately assign blame to management. You are the simple-minded idiot. You need to look at it from all angles and find the cause of the problem. Corporations are run by management, not by the workers. Lately, management has been incompetent. It's that simple. Lately? GM has been bleeding money for a generation. Anyone thinks that they can turn them around now must be totally delusional. |
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Political: Let em fail
"BAR" wrote in message ... wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:03:32 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch wrote: The Dems want to give 25 Billion to their friends at GM while GM builds the worst sorta crap I have ever seen. Their unions and management deserve to fail for giving us such garbage. They have designed the worst sort of vehicles that nobody wants when gas prices are high and their quality is still on the bottom. The unions priced themselves out of work and the management allowed short term thinking that produced the gas hogs they cannot give away. No bailouts for Bull****. Unions and labor costs are not the problem, and never have been. Non union made toyotas and Hondas sell in greater numbers, despite being considerable MORE expensive. GM vehicles are crap. Honda's and Toyota's are good quality vehicles. GM cannot put the effort, money, into quality due to the costs they have to pay for union labor and union benefits. Actually I blame both managemnt and the union. Management was too stupid to let it happen. Unuion, not my job to make this company sucessful. Take your pick. 30+ years of customer and shareholder abuse should come to an end. Someone will buy the plants and rehire real workers when the need arrises. What is the GM (Government Motors) going to do with all these cars no one wants or can afford? People do not have a problem paying a bit more for quality. My parents bought GM vehicles. When I saw what piles of crap they were I decided to never buy one. My dad did buy a Datsun 1200 Sedan back in '72, damn thing ran for ever. Had to keep riveting the body back together but the mechanicals of that car were great. It had more than 250,000 miles on it when the guy finally towed it away, it was still running too. I hear you on this. But found Ford to be better than GM or Chrysler. |
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