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eqpt wiring query
I'm fixing to put the electrical wiring in place for a marine VHF, bottom
machine, and loran to go on my center console. I'll be bringing one fused wire up from below the console to a two distribution terminal blocks on top of the console. These are shorting terminal blocks. I plan to take the 12v+ leads for the eqpt off one block, and 12v - leads off the other. The question is who are good types of connectors to put on the eqpt pigtails so I can quick connect and disconnect with each unit???? |
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"RB" wrote in
: I'll be bringing one fused wire up from below the console to a two distribution terminal blocks on top of the console. These are shorting terminal blocks. I plan to take the 12v+ leads for the eqpt off one block, and 12v - leads off the other. There are blocks available that are FUSE blocks, not just screw terminals. Fuse them at 1.5X their peak load current, right off each nameplate. Get rid of the inline fuses the manufacturers use. Use any spare terminals to store spare fuses you can find in a hurry. The proper, safe, way to do that is to power this in-console block from the main breaker panel breaker. Let's say the total load on the electronics is 10A. So, we plan for 15-20A from this fuse block to the breaker, a 15 or 20A breaker. Use #10 wire, #8 if the run is longer than 10' between block and breaker to hold the voltage up better. It would be nice if the main breaker panel fuse had a pilot light so you could see it is on below. The wiring to each electronic load is too thin for a 15-20A breaker. The wire will catch fire or melt before the breaker trips...fire is bad. Now with the branch circuit fuse panel inside the console, you have a safe fuse in each of the small loads that can blow if the item fails, without putting the whole console in the dark just off the rocks. I've found big motoryachts with the little loads all connected to a block protected by a 50A breaker in the main helm panel. It's a big fiberglass fire just waiting to happen. The little wires that would burn were all laying against the flammable teak bottom of the overhead panel. People were sleeping below, down the spiral ladder right under this fire hazard. It doesn't have to be that way! Every time you need to split out a bunch of loads at a helm or nav station or someplace, it's SO easy to install one of these little fuse panels to make it safe to have very-low-current branches without the fire hazard. The question is who are good types of connectors to put on the eqpt pigtails so I can quick connect and disconnect with each unit???? Er, ah, not on my boat, thanks. Quick Disconnect = it-comes-loose-in- the-waves, just off those rocks. NO PUSHON CONNECTIONS....NO SPADE LUGS! Verboten in my installations! Use only RING TERMINALS so you have to take the whole screw out to get it loose. You'll appreciate this when you've come in from "out there" and accidentally find one of them loose that's been working just fine.....instead of the radar going dead-in-the- dark when the damned spade lug fell off the loose screw. If I find one...it's replaced! You got time at the dock to unscrew the screw to get it loose..... Damned RULE pump nearly sank us, once. Heavy beating waves knocked one of RULE PUMP's goddamned pushon connections on their pump switch loose on a boat I was helping deliver. Nuts....cheap asses. They know better! Kindly notice the wire markers there by our breakers. Isn't it great that wire 23 in the breaker panel is easily traced to wire 23 at the helm station?....(c; Oh, look! That wire in the boat schematic and documentation is marked 23, too! How nice...((c Oh, and wire 28 is marked SPARE in that loom, too....in case 23 breaks at 3AM feeding something important when it's rolling 30 degrees...(barf)...(d^ Don't let me catch you pulling in a new wire WITHOUT pulling in a new or replacement PULL STRING, either! It'll be your ass at captain's mast! |
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There are blocks available that are FUSE blocks, not just screw
terminals. Fuse them at 1.5X their peak load current, right off each nameplate. I can't help but add here, please, please, look for fuse blocks that don't use rivets to attach the fuse holding spring clips. Those rivet WILL loosen in time when the cheap fiberboard or plastic block body shrinks. Those of you who have chased intermittent radar, vhf or other operation know just what of which I speak. It's not easy, but you've just got to find the ones in which the fuse spring clip is part of the wire terminal. I know Bruce and Larry both know exactly what I'm talking about. Old Chief Lynn |
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"Lynn Coffelt" wrote: There are blocks available that are FUSE blocks, not just screw terminals. Fuse them at 1.5X their peak load current, right off each nameplate. I can't help but add here, please, please, look for fuse blocks that don't use rivets to attach the fuse holding spring clips. Those rivet WILL loosen in time when the cheap fiberboard or plastic block body shrinks. Those of you who have chased intermittent radar, vhf or other operation know just what of which I speak. It's not easy, but you've just got to find the ones in which the fuse spring clip is part of the wire terminal. I know Bruce and Larry both know exactly what I'm talking about. Old Chief Lynn Yep, Been there..... Seen that..... Hunted for the cause......Swore mightly, when I found the problem..... Fixed that...... A good Flow Silver Solder Job usually takes care of that for at least one lifetime....but one could actually replace that stuff with real Power Distribution Terminal Blocks``````. Bruce in alaska -- Bruce (semiretired powderman & exFCC Field Inspector for Southeastern Alaska) add a 2 before @ Bruce Gordon * Debora Gordon R.N. Bruce's Trading Post P.O. Box EXI Excursion Inlet South Juneau, Alaska 99850 Excursion Inlet, Alaska 99850 www.btpost.net www.99850.net |
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