Daniel, if your scanner has a round dome, take the dome off and inspect
it. We're on our 3rd...or is it 4th, I forget....

The water vapor the stupid dome breathes in when the sun goes down makes
it rain inside the dome by morning, a cycle that keeps repeating, filling
the dome with condensate that doesn't drain. The inside parts of the 2KW
dome are made of some cheap zinc potmetal that turns to powder and has
electrolysis with the other, more noble metals like the rusty magnetron
and waveguide parts. The white powder is all over the INSIDE of the
receiver/transmitter compartments in the unsealed zinc box, so its all
over the boards and the unit eventually dies, consuming itself.

I've looked at several other Raymarine radomes on other boats all
wondering why range keeps getting shorter. Same thing on all boats.
Poorly designed, cheap parts that don't belong at sea.

You probably are way overdue for a new crappy Raymarine scanner,
anyway...sorry.



Daniel wrote in news:5iNzf.135663$65.3824465
@twister1.libero.it:

Five years ago I bought a radar Raymarine SL72 (Pathfinder Plus). Last
year, as I wanted to have an integrated system, I bought a C120 display
sure that the SL72 scanner would fit the display. Wrong! After several
attempts and inquiries I discovered that my scanner was built 6 (six)
months before Raymarine started making units compatible with the C
series displays (June 2002 vs Dec 2002).
Do you think that this is fair? Does anybody know whether Raymarine
helps to solve unfortunate cases like mine?
I'd like to add something mo before buying the C120 I checked some
Raymarine docs and found that the new display would have been
compatible
with all scanner with a P.N. newer than a certain number. My scanner
had indeed a P.N. GREATER than that and this is why I decided the buy,
but... BUT I later realized that Raymarine is one of the few company in
the world (as far as I know) that DOES NOT use an incremental P.N. but
a
quite odd system. Greater P.N. does not mean newer!

Advice is kindly requested and welcome

Daniel

On 2006-01-20 14:46:28 +1100, Larry said:

Daniel, if your scanner has a round dome, take the dome off and inspect
it. We're on our 3rd...or is it 4th, I forget....

The water vapor the stupid dome breathes in when the sun goes down
makes it rain inside the dome by morning, a cycle that keeps repeating,
filling the dome with condensate that doesn't drain. The inside parts
of the 2KW dome are made of some cheap zinc potmetal that turns to
powder and has electrolysis with the other, more noble metals like the
rusty magnetron and waveguide parts. The white powder is all over the
INSIDE of the receiver/transmitter compartments in the unsealed zinc
box, so its all over the boards and the unit eventually dies, consuming
itself.

I've looked at several other Raymarine radomes on other boats all
wondering why range keeps getting shorter. Same thing on all boats.
Poorly designed, cheap parts that don't belong at sea.

You probably are way overdue for a new crappy Raymarine scanner,
anyway...sorry.



Daniel wrote in news:5iNzf.135663$65.3824465
@twister1.libero.it:

Five years ago I bought a radar Raymarine SL72 (Pathfinder Plus). Last
year, as I wanted to have an integrated system, I bought a C120 display
sure that the SL72 scanner would fit the display. Wrong! After several
attempts and inquiries I discovered that my scanner was built 6 (six)
months before Raymarine started making units compatible with the C
series displays (June 2002 vs Dec 2002).
Do you think that this is fair? Does anybody know whether Raymarine
helps to solve unfortunate cases like mine?
I'd like to add something mo before buying the C120 I checked some
Raymarine docs and found that the new display would have been
compatible
with all scanner with a P.N. newer than a certain number. My scanner
had indeed a P.N. GREATER than that and this is why I decided the buy,
but... BUT I later realized that Raymarine is one of the few company in
the world (as far as I know) that DOES NOT use an incremental P.N. but
a
quite odd system. Greater P.N. does not mean newer!

Advice is kindly requested and welcome

Daniel

Here we go again, Larry's favourite hobby horse!

On the issue of your scanner compatibility:

1. The C User's manual has information regarding serial numbers which
are compatible, non-compatible or need upodates.
2. The C user's manual is available online from the Raymarine web site.
3. What ever happened to caveat emptor?

If you verified compatibility with a Raymarine dealer and he said it
was ok then you have a grievance with that dealer. Otherwise I'm sorry
but the information was available for making a correct decision. You
must therefore accept responsibility for your dilemma.

If we want compatibility for everything that has been manufactured in
the past boy we will not progress too fast. BTW Furuno has the same
probnlem with older scanners not working with their new NavNet
dispalays as well so Raymarine is not alone.

From someone who sells and installs this stuff.

--
Regards,
John D Proctor

John Proctor wrote in news:2006012019472716807-
lost@nowhereorg:

Here we go again, Larry's favourite hobby horse!


What's your interest, John? Are you a Raymarine dealer? Why are you
protecting an obvious crap product? I didn't make it rain in the dome and
rot the pot metal....

On 2006-01-21 00:50:50 +1100, Larry said:

John Proctor wrote in news:2006012019472716807-
lost@nowhereorg:

Here we go again, Larry's favourite hobby horse!


What's your interest, John? Are you a Raymarine dealer? Why are you
protecting an obvious crap product? I didn't make it rain in the dome
and rot the pot metal....

Larry,

I sell and install raymarine and FURUNO and I have to say the quality
of both are comparable. I too have many old Raymarine radars installed
and they generally are in no worse condition than the quivalent FURUNO
scanners I see. It all comes down to the competance of the installer,
enough said!

--
Regards,
John D Proctor

"John Proctor" wrote in message
news:2006012108082916807-lost@nowhereorg...
On 2006-01-21 00:50:50 +1100, Larry said:

John Proctor wrote in news:2006012019472716807-
lost@nowhereorg:

Here we go again, Larry's favourite hobby horse!


What's your interest, John? Are you a Raymarine dealer? Why are you
protecting an obvious crap product? I didn't make it rain in the dome
and rot the pot metal....

Larry,

I sell and install raymarine and FURUNO and I have to say the quality
of both are comparable. I too have many old Raymarine radars installed
and they generally are in no worse condition than the quivalent FURUNO
scanners I see. It all comes down to the competance of the installer,
enough said!

--
Regards,
John D Proctor

After 20+ years selling and installing at least 7 brands of radars that
I can think of, (and servicing several other brands), I itch to jump in
here, but my skin is too thin to be flamed by those who just enjoy the
scuffle!
Old Chief Lynn

"Lynn Coffelt" wrote in
:

After 20+ years selling and installing at least 7 brands of
radars that
I can think of, (and servicing several other brands), I itch to jump
in here, but my skin is too thin to be flamed by those who just enjoy
the scuffle!
Old Chief Lynn




Come on in, Chief! I forgot to put:

"open cheap plastic power connectors so you can stuff the DC wires into the
holes and clamp 'em shut to make contact with the wires", in my last post.

Silly me. I think for $2000 the goddamned thing oughta have a proper
SEALED military-style marine connector, not a little plastic molex plug
plugged into the PC board like a cheap keyboard from Radio Shack inside the
dome where it's raining...(c;

Let 'er RIP! Marine electronics is all crap. Plugless crap.

I sell and install raymarine and FURUNO and I have to say the quality
of both are comparable. I too have many old Raymarine radars installed
and they generally are in no worse condition than the quivalent FURUNO
scanners I see. It all comes down to the competance of the installer,
enough said!

--
Regards,
John D Proctor

After 20+ years selling and installing at least 7 brands of radars
that
I can think of, (and servicing several other brands), I itch to jump in
here, but my skin is too thin to be flamed by those who just enjoy the
scuffle!
Old Chief Lynn

After tooting my own whistle (above) I had to try to come up with the 7
brands of radars I sold. I found the names of 13 brands I sold, installed
and serviced, along with 17 additional brands that I serviced that I did not
sell.
I'm quite sure this is of great interest to the group.
Now, who is Raymarine? We sold and serviced Raytheon for many years,
and JRC for a while. Is Raymarine related to those older names?
Old Chief Lynn (still tooting horn)

"Lynn Coffelt" wrote in message
...
After tooting my own whistle (above) I had to try to come up with the
7
brands of radars I sold. I found the names of 13 brands I sold, installed
and serviced, along with 17 additional brands that I serviced that I did
not
sell.
I'm quite sure this is of great interest to the group.
Now, who is Raymarine? We sold and serviced Raytheon for many years,
and JRC for a while. Is Raymarine related to those older names?
Old Chief Lynn (still tooting horn)

Yes, Raymarine was emerged from Raytheon.

Meindert

Lynn Coffelt wrote:
snip
After tooting my own whistle (above) I had to try to come up with the 7
brands of radars I sold. I found the names of 13 brands I sold, installed
and serviced, along with 17 additional brands that I serviced that I did not
sell.
I'm quite sure this is of great interest to the group.
Now, who is Raymarine? We sold and serviced Raytheon for many years,
and JRC for a while. Is Raymarine related to those older names?
Old Chief Lynn (still tooting horn)

It is the heirs of the Raytheon legacy. A lot of their stuff was and
some still is made in England but it is now some sort of transnational
corporation with morphing of brand names and stuff.

You, like me, probably remember when Japanese made stuff was crap. And
then you also probably remember when it finally became the "good stuff".

Through all there there were some American and European brands that were
the benchmarks for quality. All the names that represented the
benchmarks are still around, some have been morphed a little (Raytheon
to Raymarine for example).

Some of the brands like Furuno and JRC (Japanese Radio Company) are now
"outsourcing" manufacture to places like China, Korea, Singapore, and
Taiwan.

You call yourself "Old Chief Lynn". What kind of Chief was that? A
Navy Chief? Or something truly noble like a Native American?

Cheers,

Jack










--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)

"Lynn Coffelt" wrote in news:dqv9lr$oni$1
@domitilla.aioe.org:

Now, who is Raymarine? We sold and serviced Raytheon for many years,
and JRC for a while. Is Raymarine related to those older names?
Old Chief Lynn (still tooting horn)



Raymarine is an English company who has nothing to do with Raytheon, who
made great radars, both domestic and military.