I don't know about NARTE (never heard of it til now), but I once seen an
ISCET deal, offering Certified Electronics Technician Certification. Upon
completing "their" course and passing, it "supposedly" qualified you for a
GROL without further testing. BS....... I wrote them to ask if I had an FCC
GROL, if they would then certify me as a Certified Tech, they said NO. I did
it just to see their reply. I have no plans to ever go through them for
cert. I have an FCC License and have had it plus an Amateur Extra for quite
a while. I am also self employed. I don't need to prove myself to them. How
is it, THEY can offer an FCC license without "further" testing, meaning
without sitting in for the FCC Exam? That is not right. Not in my opinion it
isn't. I know many who've went through years of Electronics training and
schooling WITH a degree or Certificate and they STILL had to sit for the FCC
license. Who the hell is ISCET paying off to do this? It leads me to believe
something is amiss here. Just my opinion.

L.


"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
What is NARTE? "Not A Real Telecommunication Endorsement"?

Doug, k3qt
s/v Callista

"Doug" wrote in message
nk.net...

I went on line last week and renewed my ham license and have since got
the
new one in the mail. At the same time I did a name change on my GROL
and
now
it shows up. You are right about the wallpaper. I think my 1st phone
is
in
the picture frame tucked behind my NARTE Certifications.

Leanne
s/v Fundy

My first phone (with the big cancelled stamp) is displayed at home next
to
my expired NARTE Class I Engineer with dual masters endorsements. After
10
years of so of paying $60 a year for that, and never finding an employer
that even knew what it was, I dropped NARTE.
Doug K7ABX

Beats me. I have a Masters in EE and CS but it never ocurred to me
that the FCC might just hand over a ticket to me based upon that. I
sat for the tests for all the tickets I have or have ever had. So what
is NARTE anyway?

Doug, k3qt
s/v Callista

"L." wrote in message
rio.net...
I don't know about NARTE (never heard of it til now), but I once seen an
ISCET deal, offering Certified Electronics Technician Certification. Upon
completing "their" course and passing, it "supposedly" qualified you for a
GROL without further testing. BS....... I wrote them to ask if I had an
FCC
GROL, if they would then certify me as a Certified Tech, they said NO. I
did
it just to see their reply. I have no plans to ever go through them for
cert. I have an FCC License and have had it plus an Amateur Extra for
quite
a while. I am also self employed. I don't need to prove myself to them.
How
is it, THEY can offer an FCC license without "further" testing, meaning
without sitting in for the FCC Exam? That is not right. Not in my opinion
it
isn't. I know many who've went through years of Electronics training and
schooling WITH a degree or Certificate and they STILL had to sit for the
FCC
license. Who the hell is ISCET paying off to do this? It leads me to
believe
something is amiss here. Just my opinion.

L.


"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
What is NARTE? "Not A Real Telecommunication Endorsement"?

Doug, k3qt
s/v Callista

"Doug" wrote in message
nk.net...

I went on line last week and renewed my ham license and have since
got
the
new one in the mail. At the same time I did a name change on my GROL
and
now
it shows up. You are right about the wallpaper. I think my 1st phone
is
in
the picture frame tucked behind my NARTE Certifications.

Leanne
s/v Fundy

My first phone (with the big cancelled stamp) is displayed at home
next
to
my expired NARTE Class I Engineer with dual masters endorsements.
After
10
years of so of paying $60 a year for that, and never finding an
employer
that even knew what it was, I dropped NARTE.
Doug K7ABX

Doug Dotson wrote:

So what is NARTE anyway?


http://www.narte.org/

Larry would probably claim executive membership ... but then he seems
to have vanished.

Rick

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
Beats me. I have a Masters in EE and CS but it never ocurred to me
that the FCC might just hand over a ticket to me based upon that. I
sat for the tests for all the tickets I have or have ever had. So what
is NARTE anyway?

Doug, k3qt
s/v Callista

NARTE is the National Association of Radio and Telecommunications
Engineers....its a good program with lots of endorsements in both RF and
non-RF radiating. They have a great EMI/RFI endorsement that is required in
many US government contracts. They have the NARTE Certified Engineer and
NARTE Certified Technician. A ham ticket will get you a Technician grade 4
which you have to upgrade to level 3 in a year or so or lose it.
I have the ETA-I (not ISCET) Master Certified Electronics Technician and
have been a test administrator also. It is a good set of exams, more
practical than math related. They give you a portion of a circuit board
trace and the components between foil traces. You have to draw a schematic
and then figure out what the circuit is....I was really surprised to find
that in an exam, but it sure relates to the real world of trying to repair
an electronic device with no schematic.
Doug K7ABX

"Doug" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
Beats me. I have a Masters in EE and CS but it never ocurred to me
that the FCC might just hand over a ticket to me based upon that. I
sat for the tests for all the tickets I have or have ever had. So what
is NARTE anyway?

Doug, k3qt
s/v Callista

NARTE is the National Association of Radio and Telecommunications
Engineers....its a good program with lots of endorsements in both RF and
non-RF radiating. They have a great EMI/RFI endorsement that is required
in
many US government contracts. They have the NARTE Certified Engineer and
NARTE Certified Technician. A ham ticket will get you a Technician grade 4
which you have to upgrade to level 3 in a year or so or lose it.
I have the ETA-I (not ISCET) Master Certified Electronics Technician and
have been a test administrator also. It is a good set of exams, more
practical than math related. They give you a portion of a circuit board
trace and the components between foil traces. You have to draw a schematic
and then figure out what the circuit is....I was really surprised to find
that in an exam, but it sure relates to the real world of trying to repair
an electronic device with no schematic.
Doug K7ABX



Sort of what the FCC exams for Commercial and some Ham used to be WAY
BACK.......

L.