I'm in the market for a gps/fishfinder combo and am considering Raymarine's
new C80. It looks great but was wondering if anyone out there has tried it
out. It's a bit more than I wanted to spend ($1600) but if it's worth it
then so be it.

Just received from our local distributor. Wait for weeks for it. They sell
more then raymarine can produce.
Our motoryacht is underconstuction so testing the C80 at home just only with
GPS and the Navionic Gold type XL Chart card.
It is a absolute space winner, easy to operate and a great screen
resolution.
The C80 not yet tested to archive or transfer information(waypoints) with
using a Scan Disk compactFlash card but I prefer to do it by laptop or Pc.
Paid ?2769 incl VAT only for the C80(excluding radar dome, gps antenna and
fishfinder blackbox etc)
Till so far I am very happy.

Best regards,
Gerard van Toornenberg, N 52° 51.355' E 005° 41.835' , Lemmer, The
Netherlands
HomePage www.gpspossmart.nl

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I'm in the market for a gps/fishfinder combo and am considering
Raymarine's
new C80. It looks great but was wondering if anyone out there has tried
it
out. It's a bit more than I wanted to spend ($1600) but if it's worth it
then so be it.

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 02:02:30 +0100, "G. van Toornenberg"
wrote:

Paid ?2769 incl VAT only for the C80(excluding radar dome, gps antenna and

Shhhhh! Don't mention VAT! One of our American tax bureaucrats may
be reading this newsgroup and we don't need to give them any more tax
ideas!.....(c;

Sales taxing it on the end of the market is quite enough....



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

You lost me there. What's VAT? The price was $2,769? Yikes. I'm finding
the C80 on-line anywhere from $1550 - $1700.

Also, which Raystar 120 would I buy? The NMEA or SeaTalk?

Thanks,
Kyle

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 02:02:30 +0100, "G. van Toornenberg"
wrote:

Paid ?2769 incl VAT only for the C80(excluding radar dome, gps antenna
and

Shhhhh! Don't mention VAT! One of our American tax bureaucrats may
be reading this newsgroup and we don't need to give them any more tax
ideas!.....(c;

Sales taxing it on the end of the market is quite enough....



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

?2,769 should be Euro 2,769 incl. VAT but nevertheless always more expensive
as your $1550 - $1700

regards,
Gerard

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You lost me there. What's VAT? The price was $2,769? Yikes. I'm
finding
the C80 on-line anywhere from $1550 - $1700.

Also, which Raystar 120 would I buy? The NMEA or SeaTalk?

Thanks,
Kyle

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 02:02:30 +0100, "G. van Toornenberg"
wrote:

Paid ?2769 incl VAT only for the C80(excluding radar dome, gps antenna
and

Shhhhh! Don't mention VAT! One of our American tax bureaucrats may
be reading this newsgroup and we don't need to give them any more tax
ideas!.....(c;

Sales taxing it on the end of the market is quite enough....



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 14:08:41 -0600, "doubleout"
wrote:

You lost me there. What's VAT? The price was $2,769? Yikes. I'm finding
the C80 on-line anywhere from $1550 - $1700.

Also, which Raystar 120 would I buy? The NMEA or SeaTalk?

Thanks,
Kyle

VAT is "Value Added Tax" - a form of sales tax common in the UK and
Europe.

SeaTalk is a proprietary RayMarine thing - it will allow the RayStar
to talk/listen to other RayMarine instruments.

NMEA-0183 is a more "universal" communications protocol - you can use
it to communicate with a charting program on a notebook computer, a
DSC-capable VHF radio, or a non-RayMarine autopilot (and some
RayMarine pilots).

If you don't have other RAyMarine instruments, I'd recommend the NMEA
option, if you have to choose between them. (My RayMarine autopilot
understands both NMEA and SeaTalk)


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On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 17:02:39 -0800, Peter Bennett
wrote:


VAT is "Value Added Tax" - a form of sales tax common in the UK and
Europe.


Isn't the idea of VAT that the product is taxed EVERY time it is
increased in value, instead of just a sales tax to the end user? I.e.
the ore is refined...vat...the metal is rolled...vat...the rolled
metal turned into a widget...vat...the widget goes to a
distributor...vat...the distributor jacks up the price and sells it to
a wholesaler...vat...the wholesaler jacks it up and sells it to the
merchant...vat...the merchant sells it to you...vat. Isn't that how
it works at every station where it changes hands from one company to
the next....every time value is added to the product?



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
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Isn't the idea of VAT that the product is taxed EVERY time it is
increased in value, instead of just a sales tax to the end user? I.e.
the ore is refined...vat...the metal is rolled...vat...the rolled
metal turned into a widget...vat...the widget goes to a
distributor...vat...the distributor jacks up the price and sells it to
a wholesaler...vat...the wholesaler jacks it up and sells it to the
merchant...vat...the merchant sells it to you...vat. Isn't that how
it works at every station where it changes hands from one company to
the next....every time value is added to the product?

VAT is Value Added Tax, a tax over the added value only.
Everyone in the 'chain' pays VAT over the purchase price but gets this
refunded, except the consumer at the end of the chain. So everyone in the
middle of the chain only pas VAT over the *increase* in price.

The net result is the same; whether you only add VAT to the enduser price or
add it incrementally over the increase of the price during each step. The
advantage of the latter is that the government get its share in smaller bits
spread over the proces from 'ore' to 'endproduct' instead of one large sum
at the end.

Meindert