"Jim Carter" wrote:

Whoa! Just a damn minute here! What's that!!! Are you saying
that your US Homeland Security Force can seize my boat if I happen to
go across Lake Huron to an American Port, just because I have traveled
to Cuba?

'Fraid so. That's what the Bush Cabal - I mean, Administration, claims.

I am a Canadian who travels on a Canadian registered
vessel.

Don't make no diff to them that rules here now.

My government has no restrictions on travel to Cuba. Where
does it say this? Show me the law that states this, please!

Law? HAHA They don' need no steenking "Law". They IS the Law.
Remember "9/11 changed everything!" They do whatever they want,
and any reasons can be made up at any time.


This
past February was my seventh trip to cruise Cuba and it's waters. It
is a great place to visit and the people are wonderful.

Obviously a commie-pink-limpwrist-nonFundamentalistGawdfearin'-furriner!
(After Iraq we'll take care o' Canada...) :P

{Reality: Every week that goes by I feel like I am sinking ever deeper
into a bad dream. I hope everyone wakes up in time to VOTE in November
and restore the chance for freedom here in the US}

{Reality: Every week that goes by I feel like I am sinking ever deeper
into a bad dream. I hope everyone wakes up in time to VOTE in November
and restore the chance for freedom here in the US}

Vote for who? Kerry? I suppose he was for freedom before he was against it.
Or was it the other way around? Which way is the wind blowing?

Doug
s/v Callista

Doug Dotson wrote:

{Reality: Every week that goes by I feel like I am sinking ever deeper
into a bad dream. I hope everyone wakes up in time to VOTE in November
and restore the chance for freedom here in the US}


Vote for who? Kerry? I suppose he was for freedom before he was against it.
Or was it the other way around? Which way is the wind blowing?

I hate to get into a political discussion on a news group that almost
uniquely has remained free of them, especially when I don't like either
of the candidates but something is going terribly askew here.

According to a letter to the Senate Finance Committee from the head of
the Office of Foreign Assets Control, which is supposed to be tracking
terrorist funds, they have been allocated only enough funds for 4 people
to track Al Quida finances and more than two dozen tracking Cuban
travel. Somebody needs to get their priorities in order.

--
Glenn Ashmore

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"Glenn Ashmore" writes:

I hate to get into a political discussion on a news group that almost
uniquely has remained free of them, especially when I don't like either
of the candidates but something is going terribly askew here.

According to a letter to the Senate Finance Committee from the head of
the Office of Foreign Assets Control, which is supposed to be tracking
terrorist funds, they have been allocated only enough funds for 4 people
to track Al Quida finances and more than two dozen tracking Cuban
travel. Somebody needs to get their priorities in order.

In more ways than one.

Must admit I'm somewhat of a news/politics junkie.

Find it more entertaining than those idiotic sitcoms on TV.

What I find most interesting is the number of groups that have been formed
not to get a particular person elected, but to try to insure that Bush does
not get reelected.

Strange things happen sometimes.

Lew

In article , "Doug Dotson" wrote:
{Reality: Every week that goes by I feel like I am sinking ever deeper
into a bad dream. I hope everyone wakes up in time to VOTE in November
and restore the chance for freedom here in the US}

Vote for who? Kerry? I suppose he was for freedom before he was against it.
Or was it the other way around? Which way is the wind blowing?

Doug
s/v Callista




Bush the flip flopper

1. Department of Homeland Security

BUSH OPPOSES THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY...
"So, creating a Cabinet office doesn't solve the problem. You still
will have agencies within the federal government that have to be
coordinated. So the answer is that creating a Cabinet post doesn't
solve anything." [White House spokesman Ari Fleischer, 3/19/02]

...BUSH SUPPORTS THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
"So tonight, I ask the Congress to join me in creating a single,
permanent department with an overriding and urgent mission: securing
the homeland of America and protecting the American people."
[President Bush, Address to the Nation, 6/6/02]

2. Weapons of Mass Destruction

BUSH SAYS WE FOUND THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION...
"We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological
laboratories for those who say we haven't found the banned
manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found
them." [President Bush, Interview in Poland, 5/29/03]

BUSH SAYS WE HAVEN'T FOUND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION
"David Kay has found the capacity to produce weapons. And when David
Kay goes in and says we haven't found stockpiles yet, and there's
theories as to where the weapons went. They could have been
destroyed during the war. Saddam and his henchmen could have
destroyed them as we entered into Iraq. They could be hidden. They
could have been transported to another country, and we'll find out."
[President Bush, Meet the Press, 2/7/04]

3. Free Trade

BUSH SUPPORTS FREE TRADE...
"I believe strongly that if we promote trade, and when we promote
trade, it will help workers on both sides of this issue." [President
Bush in Peru, 3/23/02]

...BUSH SUPPORTS RESTRICTIONS ON TRADE
"In a decision largely driven by his political advisers, President
Bush set aside his free-trade principles last year and imposed heavy
tariffs on imported steel to help out struggling mills in
Pennsylvania and West Virginia, two states crucial for his
reelection." [Washington Post, 9/19/03]

4. Osama Bin Laden

BUSH WANTS OSAMA DEAD OR ALIVE...
"I want justice. And there's an old poster out West, I recall, that
says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.'" [President Bush, on Osama Bin Laden,
09/17/01]

BUSH DOESN'T CARE ABOUT OSAMA "I don't know where he is. I have no
idea and I really don't care. It's not that important." [President
Bush, Press Conference, 3/13/02]

5. The Environment

BUSH SUPPORTS MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE...
"[If elected], Governor Bush will work to establish mandatory
reduction targets for emissions of four main pollutants: sulfur
dioxide, nitrogen oxide, mercury and carbon dioxide." [Bush
Environmental Plan, 9/29/00]

BUSH OPPOSES MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE
"I do not believe, however, that the government should impose on
power plants mandatory emissions reductions for carbon dioxide,
which is not a 'pollutant' under the Clean Air Act." [President
Bush, Letter to Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE), 3/13/03]

6. WMD Commission

BUSH RESISTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE...
"The White House immediately turned aside the calls from Kay and
many Democrats for an immediate outside investigation, seeking to
head off any new wide-ranging election-year inquiry that might go
beyond reports already being assembled by congressional committees
and the Central Intelligence Agency." [NY Times, 1/29/04]

...BUSH SUPPORTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE
"Today, by executive order, I am creating an independent commission,
chaired by Governor and former Senator Chuck Robb, Judge Laurence
Silberman, to look at American intelligence capabilities, especially
our intelligence about weapons of mass destruction." [President
Bush, 2/6/04]

7. Creation of the 9/11 Commission

BUSH OPPOSES CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION...
"President Bush took a few minutes during his trip to Europe
Thursday to voice his opposition to establishing a special
commission to probe how the government dealt with terror warnings
before Sept. 11." [CBS News, 5/23/02]

...BUSH SUPPORTS CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION
"President Bush said today he now supports establishing an
independent commission to investigate the Sept. 11 terrorist
attacks." [ABC News, 09/20/02]

8. Time Extension for 9/11 Commission

BUSH OPPOSES TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION...
"President Bush and House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) have
decided to oppose granting more time to an independent commission
investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks." [Washington Post,
1/19/04]

...BUSH SUPPORTS TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION
"The White House announced Wednesday its support for a request from
the commission investigating the September 11, 2001 attacks for more
time to complete its work." [CNN, 2/4/04]

9. One Hour Limit for 9/11 Commission Testimony


BUSH LIMITS TESTIMONY IN FRONT OF 9/11 COMMISSION TO ONE HOUR...
"President Bush and Vice President **** Cheney have placed strict
limits on the private interviews they will grant to the federal
commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, saying that they will
meet only with the panel's top two officials and that Mr. Bush will
submit to only a single hour of questioning, commission members
said." [NY Times, 2/26/04]

...BUSH SETS NO TIMELIMIT FOR TESTIMONY
"The president's going to answer all of the questions they want to
raise. Nobody's watching the clock." [White House spokesman Scott
McClellan, 3/10/04]

10. Gay Marriage

BUSH SAYS GAY MARRIAGE IS A STATE ISSUE...
"The state can do what they want to do. Don't try to trap me in this
state's issue like you're trying to get me into." [Gov. George W.
Bush on Gay Marriage, Larry King Live, 2/15/00]

...BUSH SUPPORTS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT BANNING GAY MARRIAGE
"Today I call upon the Congress to promptly pass, and to send to the
states for ratification, an amendment to our Constitution defining
and protecting marriage as a union of man and woman as husband and
wife." [President Bush, 2/24/04]

11. Nation Building

BUSH OPPOSES NATION BUILDING... "If we don't stop extending our
troops all around the world in nation-building missions, then we're
going to have a serious problem coming down the road." [Gov. George
W. Bush, 10/3/00]

...BUSH SUPPORTS NATION BUILDING
"We will be changing the regime of Iraq, for the good of the Iraqi
people." [President Bush, 3/6/03]

12. Saddam/al Qaeda Link

BUSH SAYS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEEN AL QAEDA AND
SADDAM...
"You can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk
about the war on terror." [President Bush, 9/25/02]

...BUSH SAYS SADDAM HAD NO ROLE IN AL QAEDA PLOT
"We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in Sept.
11." [President Bush, 9/17/03]

13. U.N. Resolution

BUSH VOWS TO HAVE A UN VOTE NO MATTER WHAT...
"No matter what the whip count is, we're calling for the vote. We
want to see people stand up and say what their opinion is about
Saddam Hussein and the utility of the United Nations Security
Council. And so, you bet. It's time for people to show their cards,
to let the world know where they stand when it comes to Saddam."
[President Bush 3/6/03]

...BUSH WITHDRAWS REQUEST FOR VOTE
"At a National Security Council meeting convened at the White House
at 8:55 a.m., Bush finalized the decision to withdraw the resolution
from consideration and prepared to deliver an address to the nation
that had already been written." [Washington Post, 3/18/03]

14. Involvement in the Palestinian Conflict

BUSH OPPOSES SUMMITS...
"Well, we've tried summits in the past, as you may remember. It
wasn't all that long ago where a summit was called and nothing
happened, and as a result we had significant intifada in the area."
[President Bush, 04/05/02]

BUSH SUPPORTS SUMMITS
"If a meeting advances progress toward two states living side by
side in peace, I will strongly consider such a meeting. I'm
committed to working toward peace in the Middle East." [President
Bush, 5/23/03]

15. Campaign Finance

BUSH OPPOSES MCCAIN-FEINGOLD...
"George W. Bush opposes McCain-Feingold...as an infringement on free
expression." [Washington Post, 3/28/2000]

BUSH SIGNS MCCAIN-FEINGOLD INTO LAW
"[T]his bill improves the current system of financing for Federal
campaigns, and therefore I have signed it into law." [President
Bush, at the McCain-Feingold singing ceremony, 03/27/02]

I could go on, but maybe you get the drift.